Evander Craft
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We have already seen this a few times in the last month. Sounds like we will be using his spot for someone else.
He was one of our lowest ranked recruits of the class, however, it only leaves us with 1 LB commit in the class at a time when 4 of the top 5 LB's are leaving. Also, we only had 1 LB in last year's class. I'm sure some guys will be moved around into the position and I do trust in Brohm. I am just thinking out loud here. I hope this indicates a high profile signing is imminent after the visits this weekend
Trice would be 2-3 years away to switch to linebacker. He doesn't look like he has the frame to add 40 pounds or so, but it's possible I guess. He has the potential to be a very good safety, I would just leave him there because it allows him to continue to be a kick returner.
I think it means we are in line to add a graduate transfer. I don't think we need to reach for a linebacker in this class. Alexander is going to be an absolute monster.
TJ McCollum was 190 pounds coming out of high school. I think the staff values speed at the LB position, and it’s easier to get stronger than it is to get faster.
It looks like WR Kyle reopened his recruiment tonight. With the early period a week away, it appears the next week will be interesting and give us plenty to discuss.
in his commitment statement, Craft said he was informed that he would be the last LB scholarship offer this year. At the time of his commitment, Brohm had targeted several other LBs. Obviously, maybe that other LB changed his mind and Brohm wants to give his scholarship to either a different LB or another player.
I said it before, to add as many players as Brohm is targeting, a bunch of current recruits will be decommitting. it appears to be obvious, to add recruits, Brohm is not going to cut many existing players. he's going to cut lower ranked recruits. I highly doubt this class goes over 25. Our successful season has generated a lot of interest from athletes who were not previously interested.
as noted, it appears Kyle is also now gone. I wouldn't get your hopes up too high about Trice. He could be the next to depart if a better player comes along.
I said it before, to add as many players as Brohm is targeting, a bunch of current recruits will be decommitting. it appears to be obvious, to add recruits, Brohm is not going to cut many existing players. he's going to cut lower ranked recruits. I highly doubt this class goes over 25. Our successful season has generated a lot of interest from athletes who were not previously interested.
as noted, it appears Kyle is also now gone. I wouldn't get your hopes up too high about Trice. He could be the next to depart if a better player comes along.
Just curious--how do you come to the conclusion that Trice might be the next to decommit?
Yeah I will randomly go on the free board and that guy doesn’t know anything about football or recruiting lol
You are still allowed free speech in this country (unlike many other countries). So yes, you can call "this" whatever you want to call it. My question is what do you mean by "this"? Is "this" a coach granting a player permission to explore other options while honoring his offer if the recruit chooses to remain committed? Seems like a reasonable summary of the Craft situation based on his own words. You certainly wouldn't want to use an incorrect term that is reserved for kicking players off the team or forcing them to pay their own way. I think there's already a term for that anyway.
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Here's the thing: This happens all the time with high level recruiting. The last decade it has been Purdue who has largely benefited from the removal of players from verbal commitments to make way for other prospects rather than Purdue being able to find better recruits for the program and releasing other non-priority recruits.
that was uncalled for.
I do a lot of speculation. And the majority of time, my speculation comes to fruition.
Some people have speculated that Sullivan may be the next to decommit. You don't harass that poster. but when I speculate, yo u harass and did me like no other.
I see patterns and trends.
When looking at the previous de-commits, it's not like they all wanted to leave. Essentially, if you look at Purdue's commitment list, the recruits that de-committed were the lowest ranked commits and at a position where we had other commitments.
I've made the point various times to the disagreement of many on this board, that since we are already 5 players over, in order to add any new recruits, we would have to lose current ones. I've also argued with people about the old one year scholarship rule. it changed. and I provided factual links. Purdue and brohm can no longer just kick people off the team.
To add somebody to this team, brohm has to subtract a recruit. You just saw Craft and kyle de-commit. Why? because you're about to see two new players commit.
and if you really want to know the next players who will decommit, you can just look at our commitment list and see who is at the bottom of that list.
in the last couple of weeks, Trice's ratings have moved up. So he's probably no longer in danger. but his ratings are not that much higher than Kyle or Craft. if Purdue signs Taylor and Moore, some WR is going to leave - Kyle is already reported to be reopening his recruitment and maybe Bonner.
without having any inside information, I would say the next three de-commitments will probably be Ball, Perkins and Rucker and maybe Lane..
I don't make things up or pull things out of my ass. I speculate on trends and facts. it's a fact to add a player, we must subtract a player. and currently, the trend has been the player to leave has been a recruit de-committing.
there have been other people " speculating" that Purdue will also lose a bunch of current players. What is their speculation based on? Basic hear say. yet, you believe their speculation, and call me making things up.
I'll offer some further speculation not previously provided to this board. Based on fact, brohm has added transfers and jucos. With the early and late signing periods, I'm going to speculate brohm will sign jucos, transfers and high school players in the late signing period based on how many current players are ruled ineligible. We're currently 5 over. if we have 10 players flunk out, Brohm will have 5 scholarships to be able to use for late signees or jucos or transfers. But his current early signing recruits have a limit. to add an early recruit, Brohm will subtract an early recruit.
I don't consider that pulling stuff out of my ass. You can disagree with me all you want. But there are facts that my speculation is built on. look at the tweets of Kyle, Craft and Parks. They didn't want to de-commit. they de-committed to make room for somebody else. And I'm going to speculate you will see several other players de-commit to make room for several future additions. If Israel had committed, you would see a Db recruit leave. My speculations are usually very obvious and logical.
But as I've said. the majority of my posts are purely speculation, and I don't have inside sources. I also speculated Purdue would go 6-6 in football this year in the preseason prediction thread. I speculated they would probably go to the pinstripe, or Foster farms bowl. I speculated the y would not be paired against Louisville. I speculated that the BIG 10 would decide what team would go to the holiday bowl and not the holiday bowl. the holiday bow l could request, and the BIG 10 had ultimate approval authority. And all that was also total speculation! and a lot of people have disagreed with my posts and opinions. . you can believe my speculative posts or not. but you can take the dissing and personal attacks elsewhere.
You cant say you dont have any inside info and then say you speculate on facts.
We all are speculating to an extent, but looking at ratings and saying the lowest rated is the most likely to go is foolhardy.
yes and no. I also use other factors. I tried to make my post above brief and concise. i.e. the player that de-commits will usually be at the same position as the player who commits. if Brohm receives a commitment from a WR, a WR will likely de-commit.
For Parks and Craft to de-commit, I would speculate it would be to make room for another LB or defensive lineman.
if you have a n abundance of DB commits, and yo u want to add somebody new, the logical place would be to cut back your lowest level DB .
It would be logical if coaches used the rating services. How a coach values a player is far different than a recruiting analyst does. On the macro the ratings are accurate. On the micro, they are flawed.
Still not quite sure where you got your Trice speculation--other than saying his internet ratings have gone up recently. If that's what you're saying, then is the implication that the coaches are offering or pulling offers based on how recruiting websites are rating guys?
I trust the judgement of our coaches a hell of a lot more than these rating services tossing out star ratings. The next college game that most of the rating gurus coach will be their first college coaching gig.
I'll agree . however, Craft just made a statement last week about his commitment to Purdue being strong as did Parks 2 days before he de-committed. Bonner just made an official visit to Purdue, but it has been relatively quiet about him.
I used Trice's name as an example of a player who seems like a solid commitment. Parks also seemed like a solid commitment. Taylor seems like he'll become a solid commit.
maybe I should have used Ball or Perkins' names. Does it really matter what name I used? I'm not the coach. I'm just speculating. And my entire point is to gain somebody, you're going to lose somebody. And that somebody is going to be somebody you didn't expect to lose.
If the names don't really matter, why use names in your speculation?
And if its somebody you didn't expect to lose, isn't speculation about who it is absolutely futile?
Wolegib,I enjoy reading all of your takes, posts and opinions but you should emphasize that they are only random opinions. Our recruits, current roster players and their parents read this blog. Identifying potential recruits and current commitments by name can cause some consternation and hurt feelings. I think that the overall discussion is counter-productive as well. I suspect Coach Brohm might feel the same.
my speculation is based on matching numbers and positions. Let's say you have a class of 25 recruits. You are not going to sign 25 QBs and then transform them into other positions. A smart coach will divide that 25 into different positions and only sign a certain number to that position. typically, out of that 25, you will have 1-2 QBs. 2 Rb, 4 WR, 4 OL, 1 TE, 4 DL , 3 LB, 4 DB. and 1 extra.
if a coach wants to add a WR, he looks at his current WR commits, and keeps his best ones.
if a coach adds a LB, he will subtract a LB.
if a coach wants to add another player he may look at an area he has a lot of commits to subtract somebody.
the facts are our commits. you can look at them and add the numbers. if you look at our current commitment list, what position do we have our greatest amount of commits? I would say DB. admittedly some are safeties and some are cornerbacks. if we had to keep 25 as the limiting factor, to add a player such as a RB, we would have to subtract somebody from a different position. What position could Brohm afford to subtract somebody from? I say DB.
Why did I pick Trice? it was probably a bad choice. if I had picked Rucker, you'd be asking why I picked Rucker. if I said ball, you'd be asking why I picked ball. yes, Brohm met with Trice last week and you'd be led to believe everything was cool.
But I then looked at parks' comments that were part of a public article after the IU game and I thought everything was cool, and he de-committed the next day. and I read Craft's comments last week and everything was cool, and poof - he's gone. And 2 years ago everything was cool with that DB until the day he signed with MSU. And everything was cool with that recruit who changed his mind and signed with ND. there are man y more instances where the player says something great about Purdue, and then leaves. And sometimes it's because the player has other offers. and sometimes it's because Purdue needs to make room.
To add Taylor , Moore and Arak, and an RB and to keep the commit list where it's at, what 4 players would you subtract? Kyle and Craft are facts. Who would the other 2 players be? I said, don't be surprised if the player to leave would be Trice. I have no basis for using that name. But looking at our commitment list, I believe it's logical to speculate we will lose a DB recruit to add a RB. We lost Parks to add Arak.
there are some facts to my speculations.
I would agree with your point. I will agree that many recruits and parents read this forum. We all know Eastern's mom reads this forum. And yes, I've disagreed with her on the basketball forum on several/many occasions. however, I do not believe any of my posts on this forum had any impact of his decision to come to Purdue, or to transfer from it, as one very frustrated post claimed might happen. His decision to leave Purdue would be based on many other factors besides my posts here.
I can't believe that you actually believe any of my posts have actually had an impact on any decision made by any recruit deciding on coming to Purdue. Kory Taylor's brother is a poster here. I suggest you ask him if my posts or any other posts made on this forum about his brother have affected his decision. Unlike some, I don't tweet to recruits. if Kory's brother or Mrs. Reed says my posts made an impact on their decision to attend Purdue, then I'll delete my account. and unlike some I won't come back under a different name.
I've read the fears from many posters that this board makes an impact, and I don't believe those fears. I also don't believe North Korea has any intentions of starting a nuclear war. but I know some people do.
simply stated - if K taylor says my posts made an impact on his brother's decision - positive or negative I'll leave. I've made several posts about wanting him at Purdue and also wanting him as a possible TE in a 2 TE package. I'm confident, he's seen those posts.
@Wolegib youre missing a key thing here. Taking on more guys doesn’t mean we have to necessarily lose commitments. Don’t you think it’s completely possible that Brohm knows players that are already on the roster will either leave on their own, be told they won’t play, or don’t make it academically? I’m guessing attrition will absolutely occur from the roster which would open up spots as well.
My contention is that our attrition is going to be a lot lower than previously predicted. My contention is that the players Brohm expected to lose due to academics, sat down and pulled their grades up and won't be leaving. and that is why you're seeing recruits de-committing.
there was an article with several quotes from a Brohm press conference. he specifically stated he would not play players in the bowl game if they were not academically qualified to play. he went on to further state his players knew this and were working hard to pull their grades up to make the trip.
it will be obvious to me if a player doesn't go to the bowl game , the reasoning behind it. if I see a player at the bowl game, I will assume/speculate he'll be coming back.
it will be obvious to me if a player doesn't go to the bowl game , the reasoning behind it. if I see a player at the bowl game, I will assume/speculate he'll be coming back.
I'm speculating Willie Lane is the next cut if needed. No factors no facts just IMHO
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