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DOGE

Boiler Buck

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Vivek & Musk to lead DOGE. IMO, the most important thing to come out of this election.....by far, and it's not close. And that's coming from a guy ecstatic about No Tax on SS.

An actual committee with a begining and an end.....Jan 21, 25 to no further than July 4, 2026.

Goal to cut $2 T from federal Govt.

This is the threat to not Democracy but......... Bureaucracy.

My input.....
1. It's past time & long overdue.
2. And why stop @ $2T?

Start with dismantling the unneeded of the 435 agencies and firing them all. Perhaps the Dept of Education for starters? Then FEMA.....and roll one after another. We can guess at which might be dismantled, by who he has NOT yet appointed a nominee.
 
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Vivek & Musk to lead DOGE. IMO, the most important thing to come out of this election.....by far, and it's not close. And that's coming from a guy ecstatic about No Tax on SS.

Goal to cut $2 T from federal Govt.

This is the threat to not Democracy but......... Bureaucracy.

My input.....
1. It's past time & long overdue.
2. And why stop @ $2T?

Start with dismantling the undead 400 of the 435 agencies and firing them all. Perhaps the Dept of Education for starters?
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Great movie. A classic. The guy babbling about his stapler is great and reminds me a bit of Biden.

Alot of mystery how this might work, if at all? Certainly putting 2 genius guys behind this effort is a great step.....but the US Govt bureaucracy is a hard girl to tame. Excited about the effort though.

Given that Vivek could have done multiple positions for Trump, not to mention Senator to take JDVs position, the fact that this one they settled on, shows me he is excited by the challenge. Combine that with the genius of Musk, it might be successful.
 
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Great movie. A classic. The guy babbling about his stapler is great and reminds me a bit of Biden.

Alot of mystery how this might work, if at all? Certainly putting 2 genius guys behind this effort is a great step.....but the US Govt bureaucracy is a hard girl to tame. Excited about the effort though.

Given that Vivek could have done multiple positions for Trump, the fact that this one they settled on, shows me he is excited by the challenge




I would love to see Mitch be part of the DOGE effort. He’s got real world experience thinning out a bloated bureaucracy.
 
There's a lot of people in the federal govt updating their resumes right now.......
I hope so but I doubt it. They are safe within their union and massive bureaucratic protections.

Only real funding cuts or attrition can drive them out - and why would anyone retire from a government job?

In fairness, some of those jobs will be very important now - border patrol and ICE, for example.
 
I hope so but I doubt it. They are safe within their union and massive bureaucratic protections.

Only real funding cuts or attrition can drive them out - and why would anyone retire from a government job?

In fairness, some of those jobs will be very important now - border patrol and ICE, for example.

Are they safe if the whole department is done away with, closed & canceled and all fired?

Would be like shutting up a business, Union does them no good then I believe??

Then interviewing begins for a new office -handling the very limited sort of essentials of all closed Depts. Call it the.....Office of Administration. They handle the functioning needs but can make no regulations. Essential functions are added as departments are closed....one after another.

That's the way to knock them off, one by one. How about one a month for 4 years....yes, like that alot.
 
Are they safe if the whole department is done away with, closed & canceled and all fired?

Would be like shutting up a business, Union does them no good then I believe??

Then interviewing begins for a new office -handling the very limited sort of essentials of all closed Depts. Call it the.....Office of Administration. They handle the functioning needs but can make no regulations. Essential functions are added as departments are closed....one after another.

That's the way to knock them off, one by one. How about one a month for 4 years....yes, like that alot.
 
I hope so but I doubt it. They are safe within their union and massive bureaucratic protections.

Only real funding cuts or attrition can drive them out - and why would anyone retire from a government job?

In fairness, some of those jobs will be very important now - border patrol and ICE, for example.
Are they safe if the whole department is done away with, closed & canceled and all fired?

Would be like shutting up a business, Union does them no good then I believe??

Then interviewing begins for a new office -handling the very limited sort of essentials of all closed Depts. Call it the.....Office of Administration. They handle the functioning needs but can make no regulations. Essential functions are added as departments are closed....one after another.

That's the way to knock them off, one by one. How about one a month for 4 years....yes, like that alot.
And I had heard they could move some jobs, and decrease the pay of those jobs.

“Hey, the bad news is that your job now pays 70K instead of 100K, but the good news is that your job has moved to Fort Wayne Indiana, which has a much lower cost of living than northern Virginia!”
 
And I had heard they could move some jobs, and decrease the pay of those jobs.

“Hey, the bad news is that your job now pays 70K instead of 100K, but the good news is that your job has moved to Fort Wayne Indiana, which has a much lower cost of living than northern Virginia!”

Heard moves were considered. How about Minneapolis......and $50K or whatever the average wage is in MN Bonus.....real nice in Jan. Lol.
 
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I hope so but I doubt it. They are safe within their union and massive bureaucratic protections.

Only real funding cuts or attrition can drive them out - and why would anyone retire from a government job?

In fairness, some of those jobs will be very important now - border patrol and ICE, for example.
I'm referring more to positions that serve no purpose and just provide bloat. For example, the dept of education will be getting a big haircut.
 
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I'm referring more to positions that serve no purpose and just provide bloat. For example, the dept of education will be getting a big haircut.
I really hope so, but I will believe it when I see it. Large bureaucracies rarely go away or even get smaller no matter how useless - or harmful - they are.
 
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Minneapolis has some decent restaurants, pro sports, etc. I'd ship them all to Fargo.
Trump may very well move departments and jobs out of DC. What better way to drain the swamp. Lots of commercial real estate available a lot of places cheap.

Assuming this theory is correct......Got to watch where you ship these folks to. Don't want to change a Red area Blue. You might give a House Seat away.
 
He only lost VA by 200k votes. Not all federal workers are Dems. Believe me. Just the ones you read about in the papers. A lot of them are ex military because they get priority placement.
 
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He only lost VA by 200k votes. Not all federal workers are Dems. Believe me. Just the ones you read about in the papers. A lot of them are ex military because they get priority placement.

I know Fairfax County Virginia voted 30.7% for Trump and had 410,585 votes for non Republican candidates. That is easily enough to sway a House election......and in this case a Presidential election.

So yes, if relocation theory is true, better be selective about where....and why I offered blue MN as an idea.
 
And I had heard they could move some jobs, and decrease the pay of those jobs.

“Hey, the bad news is that your job now pays 70K instead of 100K, but the good news is that your job has moved to Fort Wayne Indiana, which has a much lower cost of living than northern Virginia!”

NO! I don't want them here. Move them to Springfield with the Haitians
 
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