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Danny Hope vs Jeff Brohm

You’re definitely a little hard on Hope he didn’t have the ceiling that Brohm does but in his time as head coach Purdue went bowling despite being plagued by injuries at the most key positions, namely QB. Pushed the Notre Dame team that went to a National Championship to the point that ND needed to punch it into end zone with seconds left to beat Purdue and same thing with an Ohio State team that went undefeated that year at the shoe. You don’t push 2 heavyweights at the heights of their programs that close to defeat in the same year without really good coaching and player buy in.

Is this the game we called a timeout to make sure they could setup a play? Asking for a friend.. Or, was that Pagano? Similar coaches...
 
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No way, that wasn't cringeworthy, that was classic "don't pick on my Jeffy" George. God we hated him and we ran him off, perhaps to our detriment.
Naw, it runs in the family. His son did the same thing when things didn't go his way...btw, he is on his third college at Pitt since it didn't work out at UM or Michigan. As Ron White would say...that boy has a lot of quit in him.
 
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And if Brohm coached during the Knute Rockne era, he wouldn't have Holt as his DC either. I'm not sure how your comment makes any sense.


I thought my comment was very obvious. This is what happens when my posts are brief and under 100 words long. As defensive coordinators go, Holt is paid very well. if Brohm was coaching in the Hope era, he would not have been given very much money to pay his assistant coaches. And Holt would have found a job elsewhere. and Brohm would have some 24 year old DC who wasn't worth a hill of ants.
 
I thought my comment was very obvious. This is what happens when my posts are brief and under 100 words long. As defensive coordinators go, Holt is paid very well. if Brohm was coaching in the Hope era, he would not have been given very much money to pay his assistant coaches. And Holt would have found a job elsewhere. and Brohm would have some 24 year old DC who wasn't worth a hill of ants.

Brohm wouldn't have been our coach during the Hope era because we had terrible leadership. So the point is moot...
 
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So it is unable to speak?

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I thought my comment was very obvious. This is what happens when my posts are brief and under 100 words long. As defensive coordinators go, Holt is paid very well. if Brohm was coaching in the Hope era, he would not have been given very much money to pay his assistant coaches. And Holt would have found a job elsewhere. and Brohm would have some 24 year old DC who wasn't worth a hill of ants.
yeah, that's not remotely close to how I read your post, lol
 
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Brohm and Hope are/were playing with different hands of cards. Thus, it is not valid to compare them. Brohm has the full support of the Athletic Dept and the University Administration overall. He has the advantage of first-class facilities.

Hope had to deal with Cordova and Burke. The University was draining money from the Athletic Dept and thus both Hope and Painter had issues with budgets for assistants, recruiting, etc. They lost/lost out on people who could really affected the W/L.

Given that, how can valid comparisons be made? I actually think that Brohm is better, but that is a very subjective opinion that does not have a lot of data backing it up.
I shudder when I think of where we'd be today if Painter had been allowed to walk when he called their bluff.
 
Why do you think Brohm has been more successful than Hope?

Brohm is much more of a creative play-caller. Unless you have some serious athletes all around, you can't just line up against the top tier teams and be predictable.
I had a HS coach that always used to tell us....If you can't beat them, outsmart them.
Can you imagine trying to prepare a defense against a Brohm team?
 
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I liked Hope. Looked like he was having fun as does Brohm. Seemed like a genuine dude you'd like to hang out with. He didn't have near the resources or quality assistants like Brohm. All things equal, I do think Brohm is better. A more innovative offensive mind for today's game and probably a better recruiter. He has an outstanding staff that brings excitement which helps.
It was awesome and a little sad but the lasting image of Hope was being carried off the field by the players after smacking IU in his last game before being fired. You could tell they cared for him. And we can't go without mentioning that sweet 'stache of his

Danny Hope and Jeff Brohm are both really great down to earth human beings who happen to be football coaches. Humble, personable, and loyal to Purdue. One of the contacts Jeff Brohm made during his recruitment by Mike Bobinski was a phone call to Danny Hope, and Danny's feedback was very positive about the Purdue opportunity. Danny was on the Louisville coaching staff when Jeff played at Louisville. Danny was the offensive line architect at both Wyoming and Purdue for Joe Tiller. Too bad Danny cannot help Jeff at Purdue the way he helped Joe Tiller. Talk to any of the Billy Dicken/Drew Brees/Kyle Orton offensive lineman and you get a different picture of Danny Hope's contributions to Purdue football. Danny and Sally worked hard behind the scenes when Danny was head coach to make Purdue football a great experience. Danny would have a different school group at his radio shows and he always bought their dinners, and Sally's Huddles in Heels were priceless. Plus Sally made peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for the team for Friday night treats before each game. And Danny got in Rich Rodriguez face after beating Michigan in Ann Arbour to support one of his offensive linemen, Zack Reckman, in 2009. Danny may not have been organized enough for a BIG head coaching job, but he was fun to be around. And so is Jeff Brohm! :)
 
Danny Hope and Jeff Brohm are both really great down to earth human beings who happen to be football coaches. Humble, personable, and loyal to Purdue. One of the contacts Jeff Brohm made during his recruitment by Mike Bobinski was a phone call to Danny Hope, and Danny's feedback was very positive about the Purdue opportunity. Danny was on the Louisville coaching staff when Jeff played at Louisville. Danny was the offensive line architect at both Wyoming and Purdue for Joe Tiller. Too bad Danny cannot help Jeff at Purdue the way he helped Joe Tiller. Talk to any of the Billy Dicken/Drew Brees/Kyle Orton offensive lineman and you get a different picture of Danny Hope's contributions to Purdue football. Danny and Sally worked hard behind the scenes when Danny was head coach to make Purdue football a great experience. Danny would have a different school group at his radio shows and he always bought their dinners, and Sally's Huddles in Heels were priceless. Plus Sally made peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for the team for Friday night treats before each game. And Danny got in Rich Rodriguez face after beating Michigan in Ann Arbour to support one of his offensive linemen, Zack Reckman, in 2009. Danny may not have been organized enough for a BIG head coaching job, but he was fun to be around. And so is Jeff Brohm! :)

Thanks for that! I always liked both DH’s, and felt that DH1 was a little unlucky (how many QB injuries?) Still went post twice.

I think DH2 is a great guy, just not suitable as a HC.
 
Thanks for that! I always liked both DH’s, and felt that DH1 was a little unlucky (how many QB injuries?) Still went post twice.

I think DH2 is a great guy, just not suitable as a HC.

Yeah, dh2 bad mouthed the job on his way out the door to friends at KSU. Awesome guy
 
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Tillers Big Ten record last 4 years
2005 Purdue 3–5
2006 Purdue 5–3
2007 Purdue 3–5
2008 Purdue 2–6
Hopes Big Ten Record
2009 Purdue 4–4
2010 Purdue 2–6
2011 Purdue 4–4
2012 Purdue 3–5
Brohms Big Ten Record
2017 Purdue 4–5
2018 Purdue 3–2

I loved Tiller, hated Hope and love Brohm, but in retrospect Hope probably wasn't as bad as I remembered. The numbers weren't that bad (compared to pre Tiller and Hazell) and I believe one year we were down to our fourth string quarterback or something like that.
 
I loved Tiller, hated Hope and love Brohm, but in retrospect Hope probably wasn't as bad as I remembered. The numbers weren't that bad (compared to pre Tiller and Hazell) and I believe one year we were down to our fourth string quarterback or something like that.

Yeah, I wonder what Brohm's record would be if he was using 4th string QB. Fans seem to have spotty memories (well, I do too, but . . . what was I saying?)
 
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And if Brohm coached during the Knute Rockne era, he wouldn't have Holt as his DC either. I'm not sure how your comment makes any sense.Your reading his comment wrong...... He meant we couldn't afford him.....PERIOD!!!! Our offensive and defensive cords were the lowest paid in the league! Hope did the best with the chump change he was givin!...............
 
Danny Hopes last two seasons 13-12. Got fired.

Brohms first two seasons (so far) 11-10. God.

Guess it's relative to the situation they started from. One took over from the most successful coach ever at Purdue, the other took over from the guy the cool aid drinkers were saying was going to be this amazing coach. Apologists still say failure was not his fault because "Hope left the cupboard bare." I wonder if Hazmat is still looking at film to try and figure out WTF happened.
 
Not in today's world.

In today's world you can ignore reality and LARP to your heart's content. Until you can't because reality, biology, economics, physics, etc rears its' ugly head. But hey double down on delusion if that happens. Prime example: extending a certain recent coach's contract so the eventual buyout is more painful.
 
Brohm and Hope are/were playing with different hands of cards. Thus, it is not valid to compare them. Brohm has the full support of the Athletic Dept and the University Administration overall. He has the advantage of first-class facilities.

Hope had to deal with Cordova and Burke. The University was draining money from the Athletic Dept and thus both Hope and Painter had issues with budgets for assistants, recruiting, etc. They lost/lost out on people who could really affected the W/L.

Given that, how can valid comparisons be made? I actually think that Brohm is better, but that is a very subjective opinion that does not have a lot of data backing it up.

Cordova = Certified Socialist have no idea why she ever ended up at PU other than to destroy its' culture.
 
Hows Miles doin these days?

Never liked Fred, from the git-go. Playing to TIE in your first game shows no confidence or balls. Win or lose but don't go sit in a corner and play for a tie in your first outing. Risk aversion is for accountants and PC HR departments not football.
 
You don’t notice anything different about the 2 programs they inherited?

Or have you blocked the years 2013-2016 from your memory? And if you have I wouldn’t blame you.

I'm never going to ever forget the many references to looking at "it" or "film" from that person as long as I live. I still believe pretending to be a coach and taking millions of dollars for that is fraud.
 
Yeah, dh2 bad mouthed the job on his way out the door to friends at KSU. Awesome guy

DH2 nothing but class! Oh wait, I was thinking he would be classy if he gave the money back he stole for doing jack squat.
 
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