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These three stats are quite eye-opening:
  • An unarmed black person living in these cities was 6x more likely than an unarmed white person to be killed by police. An unarmed black person was almost as likely as an armed white person to be killed by police.

  • The Police Homicide rate for black men in 17 cities is higher than the U.S. homicide rate. Black men in these cities have a higher chance of being killed by police than the average American has of being killed by anyone.

  • Black men in six cities face a higher chance of being killed by police than the average American has of being killed in a car accident.
Some of those are really small cities though so the stats can be easily skewed by a couple of killings. Still, it's not a good number.
 
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In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).

Just the facts And only facts. Too many people make up facts to support what they want to say.
I said "more." I meant disproportionately. That's what those stats show.And lots of people use absolute numbers to obscure real problems, too.
 
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In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).

Just the facts And only facts. Too many people make up facts to support what they want to say.
So Whites were shot about twice as often as Blacks. Are there only twice as many Whites as Blacks?
 
If you're not trying to use this to justify cops disproportionately shooting black people, what's your point?
See I show you the stats and you still can't figure it out. They ARE NOT being shot disproportionately in these areas. That's the whole point. These are super violent areas. It matches the violent crime rate in those areas. Are too many being killed? Yes! I'm arguing for no police force (at least not in its current incarnation), and definitely less gun carrying. But statistically, there's not a race bias when you look at who's committing the violent crimes in those areas. I don't know how else to say it. It's not good, but it's not inherently racist as the media would have you believe.
 
OK. But, there's still a bias driving the numbers. And if the police go into every situation with that bias, there's a higher likelihood of a law-abiding person being punished for living in a bad neighborhood. Racist or not, it's still a problem.
yes agreed. but there's a bias in the violent crimes committed as well. These are 2 sides of the same coin. It's also why I believe the role of police needs to change drastically. We are in this sick feedback loop and the police need to be the ones to back off first and tone down the level violence, even in the violent areas.
 
Thanks for clarifying what you really meant. Now we also need to discuss crime rates for African Americans vs other groups too. Right?

The bottom line is that more needs to be done to eliminate these horrible killings. I totally agree with that but as with most emotional situations there is total overload of news exposure that is non stop and amps up the rhetoric to extreme levels. The various faction politicize the issues to fit their objectives ....gun control, racial discrimination, etc

I said in another post that I think police officers need to be assessed periodically to identify any stress issues that could affect their judgement, etc in stressful situations. It's possible that they need to rotate out of high crime areas periodically, etc.
 
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