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Colvin in the Portal

Loyer got the opportunity early in his career, Colvin did not. If you can’t see that Miles has more talent then take off your Fletch goggles
Athletic prowess does not equal talent.

IMO, if Myles is that talented, it would have shown in practice and it would have translated to more minutes and success on the court. Unfortunately it didn't. Again, my opinion. I never attended a practice.
 
Athletic prowess does not equal talent.

IMO, if Myles is that talented, it would have shown in practice and it would have translated to more minutes and success on the court. Unfortunately it didn't. Again, my opinion. I never attended a practice.
Having talent and wanting to put in the work to showcase it also helps. Especially on a team already filled with talent like we are and will be going forward.
 
I’m sorry to see him go but I understand the logic - I wouldn’t be surprised to see Painter bring in a 5 and a 3 at this point. I will commend him on his improved defense. Just never had the consistency we needed making 3s and didn’t offer much else on the offensive end. I wish him well!
 
The reason Colvin was so frustrating as a fan, at least this one, wasn't the fact that he was simply a spot-up shooter. It was the fact that virtually every 3 he took was wide open. And he only shot 31%. I'd say less than 5% of his attempts were contested. Contrast that with how many contested 3s Braden and Fletch took.

I wish it could have worked out, but it's really not that surprising if you think about it, and I'm not sure it's not the correct result for the program. That remains to be seen.
 
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I’m surprised he wants to leave too. I disagree with you on this one. I wouldn’t take anyone back that enters the portal. If they want out then stay out. The door closes when they walk out.
fully understand...fully and there are reasons to be that way so that you are not used as a last choice. I get that.
 
I asked Bill Wheeler why Aaron was leaving? He gave me a long complex answer, but it boiled down to the after season break down with Painter. Painter told him he could stay but would not play as he was going in a new direction. For two years not one play was run to get Aaron a shot hard to improve if your coach has lost faith in you. Also, Benter is the same size as Colvin. I have been hearing nothing but praise for Jack. I wish Myles the best. I'm not convinced this was Myles decision it wouldn't be the first time Painter let the player take the high road. I believe Berg was told something similar. This is the business side of amateur sports. Ugly yes, it is. I believe Waddel was the player who informed Painter he was leaving. The other two got the Wheeler treatment no facts just my gut.
You'd have to be an insane coach to run plays for an Aaron Wheeler. Sorry but 4th and 5th options don't get plays run for them.
Get over yourself (players in question)
I liked Myles just fine and I think he has a chance to be a good player. To this point he's more potential than production.
 
Back in June someone posted this,



and I stated if that is how MC practices he wasn't getting any better. Most here gave me a hard time.

This is how you have to practice shooting,

bottom line, you want to replicate game conditions and speed IMO...after warmed up which may consist of streak shooting like you see with Myles. Always liked pairing up players with a rebounder. Catch and shoot, catch..shot fake and shoot, catch and one dribble then shoot, catch and two dribbles and shoot (both directions and space covered with dribble). This is where I thought Wheeler never helped himself and some thought practicing non game conditions were okay and so different opinions exist. ;)
 
Lack of motion . We are a Braden ball dominated team, and it works a lot , but doesn’t give others the chance to expand their game
I'll nuance that with, "but doesn’t give others the chance to expand their game" through failure and growth. This is why you can find good 6'1" to 6'8" players out of the P5 conference after a few years of growth where the competition has some weak links and allows some growth and some players after a couple of years that were borderline out of high school have now experienced more things and grew their game.
 
One of them is leaving and one will be the starter on a national championship contender. Again.
Might want to be in front of a mirror when you take your goggles off.
I like Fletcher Loyer , he is a really great shooter but is a defensive liability. Just look at the final 4 guards , where do you see a skinny , slow and unathletic guard . Last year we got there riding Zach Edey with good shooters to help and good defense because he covered up mistakes.
 
I'll nuance that with, "but doesn’t give others the chance to expand their game" through failure and growth. This is why you can find good 6'1" to 6'8" players out of the P5 conference after a few years of growth where the competition has some weak links and allows some growth and some players after a couple of years that were borderline out of high school have now experienced more things and grew their game.

And maybe that is what MC did after this warm up. I would have hoped so.

I am guessing he was praised growing up for being so talented and not for the effort he put into developing that talent. Why he couldn't catch up to Fletcher even though he might have more raw talent.
 
We've been stacking talent as our program has improved. In the days before the portal, great programs always had more talent on the bench than most teams started. The difference was that setting out a season when transferring and no open checkbooks kept the players on the team even if unhappy. I miss the old transfer rule.
 
And maybe that is what MC did after this warm up. I would have hoped so.

I am guessing he was praised growing up for being so talented and not for the effort he put into developing that talent. Why he couldn't catch up to Fletcher even though he might have more raw talent.
before games I usually only see spot shooting. Few shoot off the dribble.
 
Not all plays work. If you are hustling, getting that rebound, getting the lose ball, etc. you can make a play happen.
As someone posted.
Myles evidentially had a conversation with Matt about testing the waters.
Let’s hope Myles tests the waters and decides to come back.
Matt obviously trusted him as he played 24 minutes in a very important game.
He’s 19. Matt should give him some rope here.
If he works at his game over the summer, gains some better handles and betters his driving ability and his shot, he could be a 1st round pick by his Senior year.
Painter had no problem putting him in as a sub for Loyer in critical game situations.
 
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As someone posted.
Myles evidentially had a conversation with Matt about testing the waters.
Let’s hope Myles tests the waters and decides to come back.
Matt obviously trusted him as he played 24 minutes in a very important game.
He’s 19. Matt should give him some rope here.
If he works at his game over the summer, gains some better handles and betters his driving ability and his shot, he could be a 1st round pick by his Senior year.
Painter had no problem putting him in as a sub for Loyer in critical game situations.
As far as what I feel is typical of entering the portal as well as what Rosevelt responded, I really feel like there is no chance that he returns.
 
As someone posted.
Myles evidentially had a conversation with Matt about testing the waters.
Let’s hope Myles tests the waters and decides to come back.
Matt obviously trusted him as he played 24 minutes in a very important game.
He’s 19. Matt should give him some rope here.
If he works at his game over the summer, gains some better handles and betters his driving ability and his shot, he could be a 1st round pick by his Senior year.
Painter had no problem putting him in as a sub for Loyer in critical game situations.
You had me until the bolded part. Sorry, don't see it.
 
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He would need to be featured/the offense be opened up for him to show case that
I'll be ro
Just an FYI that his dad posted this on twitter:

Interesting comment. I get that someone as outspoken as Rosey will defend his kid on X; however, I'm not seeing what he's seeing. Myles never showed the ability to be able to take anyone off the dribble. The athleticism was there. The ball handling ability was not. What system will work for him?
 
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... I commented on it and was crucified by the boards sunshine and rainbow attack dogs…
What a harrowing experience that must have been- those attack dogs are vicious and unrelenting— thank heaven you survived!

You must be overjoyed from being vindicated on an internet chat board— I know I’m profoundly impressed.

Congrats
 
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It sucks to lose a legacy, but if Myles believes he’ll get guaranteed starter minutes and be a featured scorer somewhere else, then he absolutely should move on.

He is still so young— perhaps the change of scenery and less pressure to meet expectations will be good for him.
 
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I like Fletcher Loyer , he is a really great shooter but is a defensive liability. Just look at the final 4 guards , where do you see a skinny , slow and unathletic guard . Last year we got there riding Zach Edey with good shooters to help and good defense because he covered up mistakes.
We came within an inch of beating a 1-seed and a chance to go to the Final Four. No excuses, but we didn't lose because of Loyer.
 
Loyer got the opportunity early in his career, Colvin did not. If you can’t see that Miles has more talent then take off your Fletch goggles
Colvin had opportunity in practice, and in games. Loyer deserved to start and play over Myles. I'm not going to beat the kid up, but I really saw no reason to play him in place of Loyer or even Furst. He had opportunities to score and rebound But didn't produce much in the way he played. Granted, his defense was better at the end, but he was needed to come off the bench and score. Had he done so, we might be in the final four.

I wish him and his family well.
 
I'll be ro

Interesting comment. I get that someone as outspoken as Rosey will defend his kid on X; however, I'm not seeing what he's seeing. Myles never showed the ability to be able to take anyone off the dribble. The athleticism was there. The ball handling ability was not. What system will work for him?
One that fast breaks a lot more probably, that gets out and runs. One where plays are run for him. I'm not saying we didn't run enough plays for him here, simply that his role was basically come in, hit some shots, play a little defense, back to the bench.

There's no need to accuse him of not working hard enough or anything other than he saw that he wasn't going to maximize his potential here, and that's true, he probably wasn't ever going to be more than a 15-20 minutes a game max backup player here except maybe his senior year and no guarantees there.

If he wanted more she needed to leave.
 
I never saw this driving ability against pressure if he had it. Sure he was fun to watch on an open break-out, but he was just too 1-dimensional in the half-court... and even his shooting was streaky. His defense did get better, and I'm glad he developed more under Painter. I agree, Purdue has good shooters for next year, assuming no more transfers. Wish Colvin well, but this could be addition by subtraction if Painter uses the portal right for slashing guard or combo wing. Hopefully this also means Heide definitely has no intention of testing transfer portal... his loss would be harder to replace.
Now that we have Oscsr if we could get a 3 pt thread who can drive the lane, draw fouls and hit free throws that would rock!
 
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I like Fletcher Loyer , he is a really great shooter but is a defensive liability. Just look at the final 4 guards , where do you see a skinny , slow and unathletic guard . Last year we got there riding Zach Edey with good shooters to help and good defense because he covered up mistakes.
Fletch can draw a charge better than any player in college basketball.
 
One that fast breaks a lot more probably, that gets out and runs. One where plays are run for him. I'm not saying we didn't run enough plays for him here, simply that his role was basically come in, hit some shots, play a little defense, back to the bench.

There's no need to accuse him of not working hard enough or anything other than he saw that he wasn't going to maximize his potential here, and that's true, he probably wasn't ever going to be more than a 15-20 minutes a game max backup player here except maybe his senior year and no guarantees there.

If he wanted more she needed to leave.
My guess is that’s not happening anywhere better than Purdue. The elite teams all have athletes on the perimeter who can breakdown a defender and drive to score or create an open shot for someone else. It appears he can’t do that.
 
Unless he goes down a level. Maybe a Butler or Xavier.
Shrews might have some interest … I don’t know that he’s figuring he’s going to some elite top ten team… I do think there are teams in the B1G that will show interest, I’m not sure he wants to transfer within the league though … I hope he doesn’t.
 
My guess is that’s not happening anywhere better than Purdue. The elite teams all have athletes on the perimeter who can breakdown a defender and drive to score or create an open shot for someone else. It appears he can’t do that.
It's definitely not happening at Purdue because we ain't that kind of team.
 
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