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Chuck Martin

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Compare ryan walters resume to chuck Martin's and tell me how we end up with walters. There's a long list of others but good grief. D2 head coach success....check, coordinator success at big time d1 program....check, goes to a d1 hc position and has success....check.
 
It seems Purdue makes decisions in hiring head coaches by using the Jerry Reinsdorf instruction manual. Little to no relevant HC experience and on the cheap side.
 
Again, there weren’t a lot of options for us when Brohm left. The thought was at least we’d have a young HC with a hot defense & B1G experience…
 
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There's a ton of options...there's a couple really good coaches with proven track records in the MAC. Walters wasn't the best candidate.
I don’t think he was the “best candidate” either. He was the quickest, easiest to get that fit the budget & clicked the boxes, however…
 
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As many have stated, BOBO knew Brohm was going to leave. He just didn’t know the year. He should have been working the phones 2 years before Brohm left. He should have had a list of 5 potential candidates when Brohm left. I cannot believe Walters was on that list.

When Keady left there was a list of 3 coaches to replace him: Weber, Stallings and Painter. I have to believe Painter also has a list of replacements for when he retires.

Tiller had a list and Hope was on that list.

The decision to hire Walters was a hasty one and made basically because some other school had shown interest. It did not follow a logical selection process.
 
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Again, there weren’t a lot of options for us when Brohm left. The thought was at least we’d have a young HC with a hot defense & B1G experience…
What proof is there that Purdue had no other viable options. That theory has been offered before with no proof or support....
 
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As many have stated, BOBO knew Brohm was going to leave. He just didn’t know the year. He should have been working the phones 2 years before Brohm left. He should have had a list of 5 potential candidates when Brohm left. I cannot believe Walters was on that list.

When Keady left there was a list of 3 coaches to replace him: Weber, Stallings and Painter. I have to believe Painter also has a list of replacements for when he retires.

Tiller had a list and Hope was on that list.

The decision to hire Walters was a hasty one and made basically because some other school had shown interest. It did not follow a logical selection process.

Hope was not on Tiller's list.
 
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The formula that has worked at Purdue during the last 30 years or so is hiring a coach who has had experience running a program  and has won consistently.

Colletto hadn't run a program in over a decade when he was hired, and at any rate he was something like 17-38 at Cal State-Fullerton. Hazell, through no fault of his own, didn't yet have the track record to warrant being hired.

Hope compiled a mediocre record at Purdue coming off of the Tiller years, but now looks like Bear Bryant compared to Hazell and Walters.

As others have suggested, if MBob was not walking around with a list of proven head coaches after the Brohm/Tennessee thing and Louisville constantly lurking, it was a dereliction of duty.

Any list with coaches who had demonstrated success running theory own programs would have had guys like Cignetti on it.

Bobinski went away from what works in West Lafayette and we are paying the price.
 
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I hate to be the one to say it but if Walters wasn't African American I don't this he gets hired.
There’s always going to be that elephant in the room as long as dei and any other hiring practices exist that choose less qualified people over others based on the color of their skin. Was that the case here? I don’t know but this was a pretty terrible hire when we could have gotten others with more experience. Also from what I understand, grimes, who had a big say in the hire, was some sort of diversity officer at Alabama.
 
I have actually been pondering which coaches that Bobinski has hired during his tenure have been successful. Brohm comes to mind. Are there others?
If there is a paramount responsibility for an A.D., I believe that it is to retain great coaches (doing reasonably well on this front), coach up good coaches (don’t know that we have any “tweener“ coaches — perhaps CKG), and replace poor coaches. The latter then leads to the need to understand the school’s program and an application of coaching talent evaluation/recruitment.
Unless I am missing some Bobinski coaching hires in our Olympic sports who are excelling, it seems to me that Bobinski continuously falls woefully short on the coaching evaluation/ recruitment front.
Perhaps we need both a new football coach, but before that, a new A.D. so we don’t keep repeating these mistakes and expecting different outcomes.
 
I have actually been pondering which coaches that Bobinski has hired during his tenure have been successful. Brohm comes to mind. Are there others?
If there is a paramount responsibility for an A.D., I believe that it is to retain great coaches (doing reasonably well on this front), coach up good coaches (don’t know that we have any “tweener“ coaches — perhaps CKG), and replace poor coaches. The latter then leads to the need to understand the school’s program and an application of coaching talent evaluation/recruitment.
Unless I am missing some Bobinski coaching hires in our Olympic sports who are excelling, it seems to me that Bobinski continuously falls woefully short on the coaching evaluation/ recruitment front.
Perhaps we need both a new football coach, but before that, a new A.D. so we don’t keep repeating these mistakes and expecting different outcomes.
They aren’t moving on from this AD. Not yet.

I would look to the associate AD for blame for Walters before the AD. All of this is curious to me as just 4 weeks ago Walters was the second coming of Mike Tomlin if you asked this board…
 
If Hope was not on Tiller’s list, why was he allowed to be his assistant coach for a year before taking over?

Either way, it supports my claim that the AD had a list of candidates to replace Tiller and Hope was at the top of that list.

Morgan supposedly had a list of candidates to replace Hope in midseason. Hope was supposedly informed he would not return after his embarrassing to Minnesota. Hope was allowed to coach through the remainder of the season.

Morgan supposedly had an agreement with the Northern Illinois coach to replace Hope already in place during the season. However he ended his season strong and received a better deal to coach at NC ST, so he took it.

This makes me wonder Why the current AD did not have a plan or names to replace Brohm and he jumped on hiring Walters.
 
If Hope was not on Tiller’s list, why was he allowed to be his assistant coach for a year before taking over?

Either way, it supports my claim that the AD had a list of candidates to replace Tiller and Hope was at the top of that list.

Morgan supposedly had a list of candidates to replace Hope in midseason. Hope was supposedly informed he would not return after his embarrassing to Minnesota. Hope was allowed to coach through the remainder of the season.

Morgan supposedly had an agreement with the Northern Illinois coach to replace Hope already in place during the season. However he ended his season strong and received a better deal to coach at NC ST, so he took it.

This makes me wonder Why the current AD did not have a plan or names to replace Brohm and he jumped on hiring Walters.

The only one on Tiller's list was Brock.

Burke hired Hope. What was Tiller going to do that last year quit?

I remember a story Tiller told, in private, about how Hope use to come running in about a great diamond in the rough recruit he had uncovered. The coaches would all roll their eyes, look at some film, and then move on.
 
I remember a story Tiller told, in private, about how Hope use to come running in about a great diamond in the rough recruit he had uncovered. The coaches would all roll their eyes, look at some film, and then move on.
Then again, it’s no secret that Tiller got lazy in recruiting late in his career and Hope actually had a fair share that earned/ are still earning NFL paychecks…
 
They aren’t moving on from this AD. Not yet.

I would look to the associate AD for blame for Walters before the AD. All of this is curious to me as just 4 weeks ago Walters was the second coming of Mike Tomlin if you asked this board…
I certainly understand that there is an associate A.D. for football. That said, one would expect the A.D. (together with the president and BoT chair?) to make the final hiring decision relative to the head coach that leads the athletic program that generates 95% of all athletic revenue.
It’s just common sense and the embrace of accountability.
 
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