Painter has always ran his offense around the type of players he has, not been beholden to one type of offense and only recruited to it.
Camden heide to transfer portal
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Standing around waiting for your post guy to get in place is no fun?
I agree that I think that Heide is probably the bigger loss. I'm just willing to see what Painter does with the portal before I feel like the sky is falling. At the end of the day these were both bench guys who ooze potential that hasn't really translated top results quite yet
I'm not sure if 'stubborn' is the correct word. I just think he's such a system guy and he truly believes in it. It's hard to bet against his system when it continues to work.
I don't think CMP will quit because of this. He's a thinker, competitor, a true coach, and loves Purdue. I would be very shocked if he did.
Yeah I really can’t think of many other reasons. Our offense just doesn’t seem suited for athletic role players. A jaden Ivey type will be featured, but you have to think Colvin and Heide wanna get out and run more. Anyways, it’s encouraging we were able to land cluff so now I have some faith we can land a difference maker at guard and on the wing. If we’re willing to pay/have the money, Heide is replaceable.
Whether or not they were hindered by Painter's scheme is irrelevant. That's not changing next year. If they go to a different coach that turns them into first round picks, I will be happy for them. If the problem was scheme, that's not going to change next year. Especially not with Jacobson and Cluff. The biggest leap is usually between freshman and sophomore year and neither took a huge leap, regardless of the reason. If you want to blame Painter, you can, but then it also makes their departures that much less impactful. It's also possible we will be trading oozing potential, for something of a known quantity.
If I'm being honest, it was nice to see us the only sweet 16 team, who all started at Purdue. But I will be way happier with Final Fours and/or a Natty. We could have 5 transfer starters take us there, and I'm still happy.
Stubborn might be the wrong word, I agree. Maybe more like "resistant to change until it becomes obvious it's a neccessity"
Another reason why redshirting doesn’t work on this new world of NIL. IF and only Painter and Jacobsen know if he was healthy , he should have played him at the end , we were fairly close to final 4 talent. And I really doubt he sticks around for his 5th year . Have to go for it every year there is no building programs anymore
TKR in the post is nice and all, but I thought playing fast was the way to go this year. Maximize the 5 guards and Colvin. Probably would have gotten a little more out of Furst even.
There was part of me dying for Jacobsen to come back. I honestly highly doubt that Painter didn't play him solely because he wanted to keep him a year of eligibility. It's possible, and if so, shame on Painter. But I feel like health factors probably played a role
I certainly was hoping he would stay, especially with Colvin also leaving, but I don’t see this fundamentally altering the core of the team. I do think now think that Painter needs to bring in another wing from the portal, unless Benter is ready to step up and join the rotation.
I don't know. We played a team we mirrored and could have won that game. Houston is the only team to run that style. 3 out of 4 have a rim protector and/or a banger.
Unfortunately, the 2 that just left along with DJ and Cluff we resemble the other 3 teams.
worst part is we just lost our 2 most athletic players. Hopefully we can find 1-2 portal players to replace the lost athleticism. That is my concern-
IF YOU AIN'T STARTIN' , YOU DEPARTIN'. loyalty no longer exists. legacy no longer exists. Cam obviously read my post on facebook. it said you have 80 minutes for 2positions. that provides 25 minutes each for Jacobsen, Cluff, and TKR and 5 minutes for cam and Burgess to share at the 4.
I also pointed out maybe Cam could plat at the three position, but Painter loves to play his 3 guard offense, so there would be 0 opportunity/minutes for Cam to play the 3. Obviously, he wanted to play more than 5 minutes a game. and it wasn't going to happen at Purdue. if you were a math major, you could see this happening the minute Cluff signed with Purdue. .
and the truth and reality is blind squirrels don't find nuts. They are killed by hawks, and other animals. it's time some of you faced reality and used your brains. what was true in the past, is no longer true. this is no longer the 50's.
Burgess seems to be OK with sitting on the bench for next year and get his 5 minutes.
Harris seems to be Ok battling it out with Benter, Cox and West. if Painter brings in another experienced guard or a 6'7 forward from the portal, to play the 3, Harris is not going to stick around much longer to watch from the bench. It's time fans realized high ranked players with dreams of playing in the pros don't stick around to play 5 minutes a game. I'll say it now. Harris' decision to stay or leave will be based on who Painter signs from the portal.
I don't want players like Harris, Cam, gillis, or myles to leave. But the reality is, they have pro aspirations. and they need playing time more than they need NIL money. if they perceive there will be reduced playing time, they will look elsewhere. Very few college players today join a team just for the chance to win a championship, except maybe Gillis. if they are good and have pro aspirations, they want playing time.
you can call me any name you want. it's not going to change the new reality of college basketball. IF YOU AIN'T STARTIN', YOU'RE DEPARTIN' !!!!!
I'm not a real big fan of acorns. I tried them a couple of times as a child. , and switched to pecans and walnuts and our dog killed the blind squirrel. and as for the facebooks groups I belong to, they could also see this coming. It was their board and not this one that first reported Myles had contacted painter 3 weeks before the tourney. But you in your arrogance refused to believe any facebook poster knows anything. they are just a bunch of blind squirrels.
So what are you drinking tonight ? who's going trolling on the IU board tonight ? who are you going to bully and call names tonight ?
I also pointed out maybe Cam could plat at the three position, but Painter loves to play his 3 guard offense, so there would be 0 opportunity/minutes for Cam to play the 3. Obviously, he wanted to play more than 5 minutes a game. and it wasn't going to happen at Purdue. if you were a math major, you could see this happening the minute Cluff signed with Purdue. .
and the truth and reality is blind squirrels don't find nuts. They are killed by hawks, and other animals. it's time some of you faced reality and used your brains. what was true in the past, is no longer true. this is no longer the 50's.
Burgess seems to be OK with sitting on the bench for next year and get his 5 minutes.
Harris seems to be Ok battling it out with Benter, Cox and West. if Painter brings in another experienced guard or a 6'7 forward from the portal, to play the 3, Harris is not going to stick around much longer to watch from the bench. It's time fans realized high ranked players with dreams of playing in the pros don't stick around to play 5 minutes a game. I'll say it now. Harris' decision to stay or leave will be based on who Painter signs from the portal.
I don't want players like Harris, Cam, gillis, or myles to leave. But the reality is, they have pro aspirations. and they need playing time more than they need NIL money. if they perceive there will be reduced playing time, they will look elsewhere. Very few college players today join a team just for the chance to win a championship, except maybe Gillis. if they are good and have pro aspirations, they want playing time.
you can call me any name you want. it's not going to change the new reality of college basketball. IF YOU AIN'T STARTIN', YOU'RE DEPARTIN' !!!!!
I'm not a real big fan of acorns. I tried them a couple of times as a child. , and switched to pecans and walnuts and our dog killed the blind squirrel. and as for the facebooks groups I belong to, they could also see this coming. It was their board and not this one that first reported Myles had contacted painter 3 weeks before the tourney. But you in your arrogance refused to believe any facebook poster knows anything. they are just a bunch of blind squirrels.
So what are you drinking tonight ? who's going trolling on the IU board tonight ? who are you going to bully and call names tonight ?
mood stabilizers might help. Dude, you are all over the place....yikes.
I don’t know that Purdue needs players who can jump out of the gym as much as players who have functional quickness. Smith, Cox, and Harris have what I am talking about. Loyer doesn’t, but you can hide one guy with his level of skill. I think Painter will bring in another wing with some good lateral quickness and Purdue will be fine.
Heide was with the program 3 years. And once again, I never denied that each oozed, and I mean oozed potential. But it's not like they didn't get a shot this year, and they didn't produce much results. It's a little silly to think that a known commodity from the portal will be a huge step back from either, unless you are absolutely banking on them taking the step forward next year, that most people expected this year.
The college game is now pro but without a draft and a cap; maybe they should institute both(since it appears many don’t care about the college itself, just the money and PT)
So with your strategy, every bench player will enter the portal on every team, every year.
We all know you aren’t really a Purdue fan. But it’s quite hilarious how you need validation. Even a broken clock is right twice a day , Wule. I’m glad you finally get your moment to shine. The more 💩 you throw against the window, the better your chances are you finally get 1 thing right.
But while it sucks these guys left, it’s more
Important to keep a core together for the following year. So hopefully we keep the big 3 together plus the remaining guys plus 2 portal guys, and we will be fine.
And guess what? Guys will hit the portal next year—it’s the nature of the beast.
But can or will we pay for that known commodity . I do agree with you with the production point . I guess the question is 1. How much were we willing to pay Heide or Colvin and 2. how much are we willing to pay the known commodity
I agree with this. The loss is more if we don't find any good portal adds. But with Cluff already on board, I feel good about us getting a Heide/Colvin replacement. That's why I don't feel like the sky is falling. If portal season comes and goes and we have massive holes, that's different. But right now, with what Colvin and Heide gave us THIS YEAR, I don't think portal adds will be that much of a drop off. But time will tell.
Was thinking this yesterday after the Colvin news.
“BRIAN ! BUDDY !!! Hey Listen, we’ve been talking about you over here today…”
How screwed up is college sports, all of these announcements are through their agents.
That pretty much says it all to me, it's just another pro sports league but with one year contracts. The idea of a student athlete is a complete farse.
That pretty much says it all to me, it's just another pro sports league but with one year contracts. The idea of a student athlete is a complete farse.
We are seeing the last days where Purdue would get good players as freshman but not top ranked and develop them to become great players by senior year. Can’t build a program like that anymore. Wonder how long painter is gonna play this game. I see this next year as the last year we have a shot at a championship.
Why is the first reaction always “money talks”? There is no indication that any of these guys are just chasing a bag. None of our portal entrants were starters. How about “playing time talks” or “being a starter talks”? Guys want to go where they can get minutes to showcase their talents. No one is poaching any of our current portal guys away from Purdue for a huge sum of money.
To be fair— that is only slightly less fun than repeatedly clanking WIDE OPEN threes for much of the season.
The “post guy” consistently drew fouls and delivered points- from what I observed this year…
IMO Players will have sets run for them- once they demonstrate they can consistently do something positive with the ball in their hands!
I’m even more disappointed with this one since Colvin, part of his competition for playing time left. I’d have thought the chance to run it back to the FF might keep one of them in tow. Leaving for more pt must be more important than a chance at playing for NC! Oh well life goes on. I’m going to miss these guys
Jayce Rahl is staying. So all is not lost. 😂
if we get 2 of these 3 , I would be happy Tae Davis, Davis ( SIU) or Sutton from Omaha
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Idk.. Painter let Etwaun, Carsen and Jaden cook…
