Burke "tired of being used as a minor league for professional sports"
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I wouldnt mind seeing something like this. Especially to reduce/eliminate one and dones in MBB. I was really relieved to read it had to have national consensus (which I doubt they get). I do think it would benefit football and basketball in total.
I dont get Burkes quote at all. Seems like a pretty good relationship, and you just find a way to push for stronger academic requirements; which I also think benefits everyone.
He may want to worry more about his school being the go to for degrading comments in social and traditional media.
I dont get Burkes quote at all. Seems like a pretty good relationship, and you just find a way to push for stronger academic requirements; which I also think benefits everyone.
He may want to worry more about his school being the go to for degrading comments in social and traditional media.
If a kid is ready, let him play. The argument about being a minor league is ridiculous from him given the low number of players Purdue has actually had leave early, let alone get drafted. If he is talking college as a whole, the schools and the NCAA make a ton of money off it, so, dont bite hand that feeds.
Re: I think he has been successful...
The fact that Vince Edwards wouldn't be playing right now under these rules makes me mad. How can you hold kids back from millions of dollars when they just dont need to go to college in the first place to be successful?
The fact that Vince Edwards wouldn't be playing right now under these rules makes me mad. How can you hold kids back from millions of dollars when they just dont need to go to college in the first place to be successful?
Re: I think he has been successful...
Its weird to me people get all 'how can you limit ones earning power' when it happens all the time. Even pro atheletes are limited to the cap because the owners decided to not let big markets NY-Yankee everything. Non sales people and non servers have capped hourly wages or salaries. I saved my company a few million last month, Im not whining about not getting any of it.
The only risk to the NCAA is if you shut out all the freshmen and one and dones then you create a stronger DNBA.
Not saying this is my stance, but you can stop them by making the decision that its better for the sport/business as a whole to do this, and get the owners/presidents/ceo's whatever to agree to implement it.
Its weird to me people get all 'how can you limit ones earning power' when it happens all the time. Even pro atheletes are limited to the cap because the owners decided to not let big markets NY-Yankee everything. Non sales people and non servers have capped hourly wages or salaries. I saved my company a few million last month, Im not whining about not getting any of it.
The only risk to the NCAA is if you shut out all the freshmen and one and dones then you create a stronger DNBA.
Re: I think he has been successful...
would be easier and make more sense to just make it like the baseball system.
the nba could use a better d-league(s) anyway.
would be easier and make more sense to just make it like the baseball system.
the nba could use a better d-league(s) anyway.
Comments like this just show how old fashioned and behind the times Burke really is. Also the comment about being used as a minor league for pro sports is laughable. When is the
Last time we had an athlete leave early? The ad desperately needs new blood. No way all schools would agree and if Purdue decided to do it rogue it would kill recruiting.
Last time we had an athlete leave early? The ad desperately needs new blood. No way all schools would agree and if Purdue decided to do it rogue it would kill recruiting.
Re: Burke "tired of being used as a minor league for professional spo
This is just more of the power five protecting themselves and avoiding doing anything to actually impose higher academic standards.
If they took away freshman eligibility it'd likely be coupled with increased schoLarships which would have an impact on those non power five schools that make the tournament great.
Not to mention the obvious, point about this not impacting purdue as posters mentioned above. He is definitely out of touch
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This is just more of the power five protecting themselves and avoiding doing anything to actually impose higher academic standards.
If they took away freshman eligibility it'd likely be coupled with increased schoLarships which would have an impact on those non power five schools that make the tournament great.
Not to mention the obvious, point about this not impacting purdue as posters mentioned above. He is definitely out of touch
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There is a very easy fix to this whole mess and the model is currently with professional baseball.
A high school student may get drafted and go directly from high school to the minor leagues. If he chooses to not sign his contract, he may attend college until the junior draft. At that point he can sign or continue to play until his eligibility is up.
There doesn't seem to be a huge issue with people demanding that baseball players going professional after high school are unprepared and so forth because MLB has an established minor league system. It would seem to me that with the constant upgrading up stadiums and massive salaries, that the MLB model is doing just fine.
Why not do the same for the NFL and the NBA? The model would have to be tweaked but the basis could remain the same.
NBA: The same model could be used for the NBA as what is currently in place for MLB. Allow a player to be drafted with no penalty if he chooses not to sign his contract straight out of high school. If that player chooses to attend college, he must do so for a minimum of two seasons. At that point, a player may put his name in to the draft much the same way they do currently.
NFL: This gets a little more tricky simply due to the physicality of the NFL as compared to other professional sports. I do not think any player is physically ready at 18 to play professional football. However, if the NFL implemented a sort of minor league system that allowed for a player to develop prior to entering the NFL, it could be a system that could work.
1. All football players must enter college for a minimum of one full academic year. After that academic year, a player may deem himself eligible for the draft. If that player has less than two full academic years of experience at the college level, they must play a minimum of two years in the minor league system set up by the NFL. NFL teams can not use any of these players until their minimum of two years in the minor league system has been completed.
2. A player who declares early for the draft (before their 2 required academic years are up) must meet with a committee set up by the NCAA to inform players of the advantages and disadvantages that declaring early and entering the minor league system. At this point, a player may receive their potential draft placement according to multiple NFL sources. From there a player may enter the draft or may choose to return back to college. This process may only be done ONCE in a players time in their first two years.
3. Once a player has been in college for the minimum two full academic years (this would include players who choose to enroll midyear), that player may choose to enter the NFL draft without an agent with no penalty and receive his draft stock (similar to that of the current model for MBB). That may be done with the final two years of eligibility.
For all sports: The NCAA mandates that for any athlete who wishes to return to college to finish their degree may do so until the age of 35 and the NCAA will cover cost of tuition at any member college or university. This will require tracking and so forth, but its nothing the NCAA wouldn't be able to handle.
A high school student may get drafted and go directly from high school to the minor leagues. If he chooses to not sign his contract, he may attend college until the junior draft. At that point he can sign or continue to play until his eligibility is up.
There doesn't seem to be a huge issue with people demanding that baseball players going professional after high school are unprepared and so forth because MLB has an established minor league system. It would seem to me that with the constant upgrading up stadiums and massive salaries, that the MLB model is doing just fine.
Why not do the same for the NFL and the NBA? The model would have to be tweaked but the basis could remain the same.
NBA: The same model could be used for the NBA as what is currently in place for MLB. Allow a player to be drafted with no penalty if he chooses not to sign his contract straight out of high school. If that player chooses to attend college, he must do so for a minimum of two seasons. At that point, a player may put his name in to the draft much the same way they do currently.
NFL: This gets a little more tricky simply due to the physicality of the NFL as compared to other professional sports. I do not think any player is physically ready at 18 to play professional football. However, if the NFL implemented a sort of minor league system that allowed for a player to develop prior to entering the NFL, it could be a system that could work.
1. All football players must enter college for a minimum of one full academic year. After that academic year, a player may deem himself eligible for the draft. If that player has less than two full academic years of experience at the college level, they must play a minimum of two years in the minor league system set up by the NFL. NFL teams can not use any of these players until their minimum of two years in the minor league system has been completed.
2. A player who declares early for the draft (before their 2 required academic years are up) must meet with a committee set up by the NCAA to inform players of the advantages and disadvantages that declaring early and entering the minor league system. At this point, a player may receive their potential draft placement according to multiple NFL sources. From there a player may enter the draft or may choose to return back to college. This process may only be done ONCE in a players time in their first two years.
3. Once a player has been in college for the minimum two full academic years (this would include players who choose to enroll midyear), that player may choose to enter the NFL draft without an agent with no penalty and receive his draft stock (similar to that of the current model for MBB). That may be done with the final two years of eligibility.
For all sports: The NCAA mandates that for any athlete who wishes to return to college to finish their degree may do so until the age of 35 and the NCAA will cover cost of tuition at any member college or university. This will require tracking and so forth, but its nothing the NCAA wouldn't be able to handle.
What's the point of going to college? I always thought it was learn and develop skills required to go make a living as a professional in the path you chosen. If after your Freshman year, you are ready to go make a living, more power to you. Most people would take that opportunity to go do what they wanted to for a living after their Freshman year if they had the option.
When I was a kid, I loved the NBA. Malone, Barkley, Stockton, any star from that era. The league has been so bad for so long because of a lack of fundamentals. I think it only benefits them to alter something to help this. Most people point their finger at AAU these days.
I just want to watch better basketball.
Actually, you can't really fault AAU for these problems. The issues actually surround the NBA game. Michael Jordan was an incredible talent but his talent relied heavily on one-on-one matchups. He was surrounded with role players and another superstar in Scottie Pippen. Now, tell me how basketball is any different from those Bulls teams of the 1990's? Each team seems to have a superstar with many role players along with one to two players who are very good.
The issue is that there are too many teams that spread the talent too thin. If the NBA did away with 4 teams, you could consolidate more talent on more teams, and thus get better basketball for every one. However, that simply isn't going to happen any time soon.
The issue is that there are too many teams that spread the talent too thin. If the NBA did away with 4 teams, you could consolidate more talent on more teams, and thus get better basketball for every one. However, that simply isn't going to happen any time soon.
Ha! Love the NBA talk.
Agree with the first paragraph. Jordan, and I would argue Iverson behind him, destroyed the league as you point out. IMO Jordan should get more respect for his defense and work ethic, but its hardly surprising the kids behind him focused on scoring so much.
I dont have a firm opinion on AAU, but it gets blasted in the media a lot.
I like basketball because of the teamwork involved in defense and getting guys open. So to watch the NBA become all about isolation and creating your own shot is discouraging and boring. It was only fun with Jordan because he was excellent at everything, including getting guys like Rodman to stay focused enough to win.
I just wish Purdue could attract an athlete the NBA or NFL actually was interested in. We used to do so. Those teams were actually fun to watch.
This post was edited on 2/28 11:35 AM by BoilerStutz
This post was edited on 2/28 11:35 AM by BoilerStutz
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