Bryson Scott...
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Really thought he got a bad deal from MP. He certainly is a better player than PJ on D and driving the ball. PJ may be a better 3 point shooter. Never could figure out why MP ran Bryson off.
Don't be stupid...
MP begged him to stay. Scott left because he thought he'd get picked up by a good program. He didn't. Scott is documented as saying this. MP didn't run him off.
Painter never ran him off. Bryson himself said he made a bad decision after he left.
Sorry, but benching a kid for most of the season is running him off IMO. Doesn't matter at this point. Seems to have worked out for everyone
Yes, good for him. Nice to see him have this success tonight against a top team - the fact that it was IU just makes it that much sweeter.
Scott just utterly dominated IU tonight. He just took that game over and showed IU who the boss man was. Nice call letting him transfer. Very nice call indeed letting go the very player who took #3 IU down. Definitely got a raw deal at Purdue. Unappreciated and tonight he showed Painter how to paint. I like Painter, at least he has intensity, but I call it like I see it, and tonight Scott takes the medal.
Did not "get a raw deal at Purdue". Stop with the revisionist history. Scott had trouble following directions, practicing, and in general, following team rules. He set himself up for riding the pine at Purdue. He had to do some growing up, and it appears he has. Stop making Scott's success tonight some sort of black mark against Painter.
It's more than a black mark in my book. Especially when Purdue loses to a pipsqueak mini in the NCAA OUST styled. Sorry I am not impressed just yet with the state of things. This is a big black mark in my book. Villanova proves this point. Both teams ranked 3, both teams playing on the road. Purdue loses, but IPFW wins because of one man. That one man should be on Purdue's team this year. Only he isn't, and that may be the very reason this team settles between winning another not a damn thing and winning something. I was never happy about that transfer not for one second. I am even more unhappy about it now.
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I just turned it on after the Utah State game. He was locking JBJ down! The refs were letting them play and it benefitted the home team. IPFW (now branded as Fort Wayne) used to be in DII until the early 2000's. My Y-Ball team played at halftime of one of their games (vs. Northern Kentucky when they were also DII) when I was in 3rd grade, so I've gotten to see the fluctuation of their program over the last 23 years or so: that is definitely their best win in program history.
if scott had shown this at purdue he would still be here, however, he had two good games while here, one being against iu. the rest of the time he thought he could go one on one against the other team and lost the ball or was blocked most of the time. didnt show us any of this talent while here. shame he couldnt because we need a kid with his toughness but he just didnt show he could play while here. so no, painter didnt run him off.
I think I read that Scott regrets leaving Purdue. I bet he realizes now what he did to cut his playing time at Purdue. I was rooting for the guy last night.
What a gigantically ridiculous thing to say. As others have said it is well reported that CMP pleaded with Bryson to stay. You really should have all the facts before posting nonsense.
Then go be mad at Bryson since it was 100% his decision.
No it isn't. All he had to do is follow directions and he would of played. It is that simple. I'm glad he learned his lesson, but it is on him 100% that he didn't learn that while at Purdue.
He absolutely did get a raw deal...as bringing in Octeus when they did was not just a slap in his face, but, it was the beginning of the end. That said, life is full of raw deals, so it was a life lesson no doubt...and, quite frankly, Painter was desperate at the time and Octeus was a gift that paid off tremendously for him and for Purdue...he ended up being a better player and better PG than Bryson was at the time...and, he was a difference maker at a time that one was really needed at the position and just in the program even.
There not only was always a double standard seemingly with Bryson (even for many of the things that you alluded to), but, it was never more evident than when he was competing with Ronnie Johnson for minutes and playing time...the two were handled entirely differently.
All of that said, Scott did not do himself any favors either for much of his time at Purdue, so what happened was not solely Painter's fault by any means.
Ultimately, Scott was (and is) a talented player...he could have made a difference for Purdue, and it is nice to see him do so for IPFW. He has moved on literally and figuratively, and he has never said anything remotely negative about Purdue or Painter, which is a credit to him as a person. Last night is something that will make him a local legend likely for the rest of his life...it was something that he will be able to cherish forever...for a guy that has constantly been searching for something seemingly and for validation, he got it last night, and I am happy for him (and his family) that he did.
I could not be more happy for Bryson than I am today. Congrats young man. DonUp, BoilerUp
Lol. They may be ranked higher nationally (#3) than they are in the state (#5)!
Purdue, Notre Dame, Butler, IPFW, and then IU!
It wasn't any of Painter's fault by any stretch. And rehashing this is ridiculous to begin with because CMP asked Scott to stay, Scott didn't and publicly said he regretted leaving.
All Scott had to do was listen and he chose not to until now and good for him. But leaving here was all on Scott.
Agree to disagree, especially since you are right in that there is no reason at this point to rehash the matter...it is done and over and all have moved on.
Bryson played a great game last night. If he played like that all the time, he would be of tremendous value to any team, including Purdue. He also knows Blackmon well and knows how to defend him. However, in the post game interview the Ft. Wayne coach said he has not played defense like that before this game. He even admitted that Scott's defense was poor prior to last night.
That to me sums up Scott to a tee. He has great ability and can play good on both ends of the floor. But he hasn't done it even remotely consistent, neither for Purdue or for Ft. Wayne. Painter isn't the only coach who hasn't gotten through to him.
That to me sums up Scott to a tee. He has great ability and can play good on both ends of the floor. But he hasn't done it even remotely consistent, neither for Purdue or for Ft. Wayne. Painter isn't the only coach who hasn't gotten through to him.
I see that basketball is a simple game for you. Add or subtract a single player and that affects the score so precisely that you can predict the outcome of future games. Oh wait... this is about 20/20 hindsight, right?
I guess you can keep your own "book" and make a black mark next to painter's name for "allowing Scott to quit", but the last time I looked we are not allowed to keep people against their will in the US.
So many things wrong in this tiny paragraph. One, Scott wasn't the ONE reason IPFW won. He, along with #55, were. As a matter of fact, #55 hit more key buckets than Scott did, IMO. Still, Scott had potential, but when he threw on a PU jersey, he felt like he needed to win the game himself every time he touched the ball. Never played within the offense.
Second, if this proves ANY point, it's that Purdue loses by 3 to the reigning champs, the #2 ranked team in the country now, and a team that is already a favorite for another FF run, while IU loses by 3 points to.... IPFW? To me it proves that PU is way more consistent than IU. We are a team that will destroy your front line, get them fouled out, and you bet your a$$ we're scoring 40+ points in the paint with Haas/Swanigan. That's who we are, we won't beat your with speed, athleticism, fade-away jumpers. We play fundamental, old school ball. If you want to beat us, create turnovers, get OUR bigs in foul trouble early, and hit a ton of 3s.
I said when IU beat Kansas, they were LIGHTS OUT shooting 3s. That's not going to happen. They are a one dimensional team that lives and dies by the 3, and that is a recipe for disaster. They may beat UK, Kansas, Duke, but may lose to IPFW, Rutgers, South Alabama Institute of Elevator and Veterinarian Expertise. If you want to beat IU, play solid perimeter defense and you will be in the game every time.
Not to mention Painter told Bryson going into his Sophomore season he was going to be the starting PG. Then Painter picked up some guy late named Jon Octeus.
If you believe Painter said that, you really don't know Matt Painter.
Is anyone actually suggesting that CMP was wrong to bring in Octeus?
I was unhappy it didn't work out. I watched him a few times in high school and he never showed me a glimpse of a pg mentality..he was all 2 guard. He got to the basket, but never played above it on his drives and ate a few at Purdue. I thought he may have been Purdue's best on ball defender while at Purdue, but that didn't translate to his off ball D. I attribute that to his heavy high school pressing...always attacking and aggressive on the ball and traps. He was never a great shooter.
He struggled playing the 1, but became significantly better just prior to leaving...and he didn't shoot well enough to play the 2. He was intense and hard on himself as his college results were below what he expected. It is true Matt wanted him to stay and work on his game, but Bryson didn't see that as the issue..as many don't in those circumstances. Bryson left and in a few days realized he made a mistake. Count me among those that think he matured in his outlook and wished he would have stayed...the rule emphasis would help him along with his maturity today. I wish him well, wish he was at Purdue and secretly hope for a fifth year transfer.
Brenton Scott was the shooter and handled the ball as much if not more than Bryson in high school adn was a little surprised tha Bryson didn't join Brenton at ISU after leaving Purdue...I actually expected it. It made me think he really liked being close to home and perhaps wanted his own identity. I'm happy for him and wish him well
It sounds like both Bryson Scott and Danny Etling have grown and matured since leaving Purdue. That's what we want to see in young people. Let's not forget these are 18-22 year old kuds, and they live under a microscope.
You're right. Matt should have a policy of equal playing time and participation trophies for all.
Come'on man, no coach benches a player for spite. If a guy is playing well and helping the team he gets the minutes. If not he sits.
Foolish.
No it was the right decision it just factored into Scott's transfer. Why does everyone have to take posts out of context?
Bottom line: Bryson didn't work out here. He seems to be doing much better at a mid-major. We seem to be fine too. How is this not a win-win for everyone?
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