Brohm…
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You think there is anyone in the country that would take the Purdue job that could say with a straight face Purdue is their destination school?
I'll dumb it down for you. I agree, I doubt there are many coaches who would take the Purdue job that could say with a straight face that Purdue is their destination school. But you do not hire a coach who tells you that he's going to sh!t all over Purdue and run off to Louisville when he thinks "the time is right."
Is that what happened? I remember brohm declining the Louisville job the first time it was offered. Even if we knew that was the case don’t we know that is the case for any coach? Don’t you think of Walters was a great coach he’d go to Colorado the first chance he could if they matched pay? And fleck had made it clear he’s bolting at the first big offer. And iu hired a 63 year old coach to avoid this. It’s a reality we are a stepping stone for just about everyone.
I think most saw this coming, UL fans think they should be some sort of Blue Blood even though their history is actually a really plucky mid major. Brohm always has been good for a winning a few games he shouldn't while also losing a few games he shouldn't. Always has periods in his play calling where he forgets he's allowed to just run the ball and eat clock and never seems to put much focus on the defensive side of the ball.
If you goal is to have winning seasons and the occasional surprise really good season, he's a good coach. If your aspirations are annual national title contention, he's probably not your guy, and that is what UL fans are expecting. This return home was doomed from the beginning.
If you goal is to have winning seasons and the occasional surprise really good season, he's a good coach. If your aspirations are annual national title contention, he's probably not your guy, and that is what UL fans are expecting. This return home was doomed from the beginning.
Pretty fair assessment. And Sadly that makes him a pretty good coach as far as Purdue is concerned.
Did you complain when he brought players with him from Western Kentucky?
In today's world that seems to be just part of the game.
An older, joe tiller type coach that will stick around and consistently get you 7-9 wins during their prime is basically our dream coach scenario.
Lots of revisionist history here. He took 3 recruits from the class. That’s it. When he left he took 0 current players. Allen and Miller didn’t transfer until after the spring. Can’t think of anybody else he poached. So 5 guys total…when IUs coach brought almost triple that from JMU.
Don’t understand why people hate Brohm. He turned down Louisville once. UT too to stay.
He left. I get it. It sucks but yall act like battered ex wives when his name gets mentioned!
Don’t understand why people hate Brohm. He turned down Louisville once. UT too to stay.
He left. I get it. It sucks but yall act like battered ex wives when his name gets mentioned!
He did try to take players, but they decided to stay. There were lots of rumors when he left that he had kind of lost the locker room and the Brohm Co act was wearing thin. I think the fact that the players didn't really follow tells a lot and we were likely on a downward trajectory with Brohm if he had stayed. Of course, maybe if he didn't have one foot out the door that season, as had been long speculated, it doesn't degrade to that point.
Right which is Cignetti. But that only gets you 3-4 years. I don’t understand how that is better than Brohm?
3-4 years of what? I’d imagine if he wants to stay and is having success he’d coach for 8+ years. It’s not legally mandated you have to retire at 67…
Well said but belaboring Brohm isn’t going to help us now. Looking forward, we obviously need a top young (under 50) coach who has proven himself as a HC. As I mentioned in another thread , Purdue is now in the first year of the new B1G TV contract and we can easily pay far more than the ACC, Big-12 or G5 conferences can. The same goes for all the other Big Ten & SEC schools. We'll be getting $75-90 million in TV and playoff money for the 2024-25 season.
Jamey Chadwell at Liberty U (link) makes $4 million/yr and is considered well paid. Purdue could easily pay him double that amount. Similarly, Matt Campbell at Iowa St makes $4 million. ISU is 7-0 and ranked #10. Again we could easily double his $4 million salary and it would be money well spent. Copied from the internet:
“After completing a 9-3 season in 2020, Campbell and Iowa State agreed on a new contract extension that would keep him with the school through the 2028 season. Under the terms of that contract, according to USA Today, Campbell earns an annual base salary of $4 million — including for the 2024 college football campaign.”
Jamey Chadwell - Wikipedia
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From The Athletic, some interesting info on football coaching salaries.Well said but belaboring Brohm isn’t going to help us now. Looking forward, we obviously need a top young (under 50) coach who has proven himself as a HC. As I mentioned in another thread , Purdue is now in the first year of the new B1G TV contract and we can easily pay far more than the ACC, Big-12 or G5 conferences can. The same goes for all the other Big Ten & SEC schools. We'll be getting $75-90 million in TV and playoff money for the 2024-25 season.
Jamey Chadwell at Liberty U (link) makes $4 million/yr and is considered well paid. Purdue could easily pay him double that amount. Similarly, Matt Campbell at Iowa St makes $4 million. ISU is 7-0 and ranked #10. Again we could easily double his $4 million salary and it would be money well spent. Copied from the internet:
“After completing a 9-3 season in 2020, Campbell and Iowa State agreed on a new contract extension that would keep him with the school through the 2028 season. Under the terms of that contract, according to USA Today, Campbell earns an annual base salary of $4 million — including for the 2024 college football campaign.”
Jamey Chadwell - Wikipedia
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Top salaries by conference
SEC - Kirby Smart – Georgia - $13.28 million
ACC - Dabo Swinney – Clemson - $11.13 million
Big Ten - Lincoln Riley – USC - $10.04 million
Big 12 - Mike Gundy - Oklahoma State - $7.75 million
AAC - Alex Golesh – USF - $2.5 million
Pac-12 - Jack Dickert - Washington State - $2.55 million
Mountain West - Jay Norvell - Colorado State - $1.8 million
MAC - Chuck Martin - Miami (Ohio) - $1.35 million
CUSA - Rich Rodriguez - Jacksonville State - $1 million
Sun Belt - Tim Beck - Coastal Carolina - $1 million
Odds and ends - Indiana’s Curt Cignetti gets paid $4.25 million per year – Kirby Smart’s buyout is $118.08 million if fired before Dec. 1.
SEC coaches average a nation-leading salary of $8.1 million. Twelve of the conference’s 16 head coaches rank in the top 25 nationally, including six in the top 10. Big Ten coaches average $6.8 million in salary, second nationally and still well above the $5.8 million average in the ACC and $4.9 million in the Big 12.
If we were to double Matt Campbell's salary to bring him here, that would put us right with Penn St. and Oregon in terms of what we're paying our HC. I cannot see that happening. Is just over .500 in the Big 12 worth doing that? If we are going to try to get a P4 but non P2 to come with a huge salary bump, I'd be going after Rhett Lashlee. Everyone says they have unlimited money down there but they're only paying him 2.3M. Offer him 6 or 7. He may just be too southern and have no interest, but I'd try.
Cignetti is doing a little too good imo. I’ll be surprised if he’s there next year. Plus he’ll never recreate this year again at iu, so he will never be more in demand. All the big programs looking for a coach will be after him.
You still have the age factor which might keep some schools away.
I don’t see it being a deterrent for any school that wants to win instantly with him. Even if you get 6 good years that’s worth it imo. It also could influence him to quickly jump before he does age out of coaching.
He was able to win quickly because of all the players he brought with him, the question is, if you are stepping up more, does he have players to take with him for yet another program level. So not sure you see the quick turn versus a longer rebuild.
I think this turn is a little bit of smoke and mirrors due to the combination of a very favorable schedule and the players he was able to bring being up step up to a higher level. Not saying he's a bad coach, just not sure he could do that quick of turn around again.
Matt Campbell is an example, although your summary of his tenure at ISU is too dismissive. He took a rock-bottom team and in nine years has them into a top ten team with an excellent chance of making the playoff, so his overall winning percentage is deceptive. He's also 2-1 vs archrival Iowa in the past three years.
Yes, Rhett Lashlee is another good example. $2.3 million is chump change. Pay what it takes to get someone like that in here.
I would say bringing players with him is one of many reasons he was able to win quickly. Definitely not the only reason, all coaches do that when they move to a different school, but not all see this type of success. First and foremost he’s clearly a really good coach. And yes I agree their schedule sucks. With our schedule they’d have at least 3 losses already. And I’m not saying he would be highly successful if he moved on to a better program, but you’re fooling yourself if you don’t think he will have his choice of pretty much any program looking for a new coach this off season. Tennessee came calling for brohm after just a 7-6 season.
It could be but you don’t hire a 63 year old and tell your fan base you planned for 8 years. It also gets harder to recruit high school kids when you are 67 and you will be 74 when they graduate.
In the portal/NIL era, kids are much more concerned with who’s there THIS year, and HOW much.
