Morgan Burk the coach you should have hired when Tiller retired. 55-wins 28 loses for the x d/c and Purdue line backer.Coach Spack preaches focus and attention and stressed the importance of not beating yourself.here,here,with stupid mistakes. His team this year was 5th in the country in penalties and 7th in turnovers.
Brock Spack 7-years at Il. State
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That was certainly true seven years ago, Indy_Rider. But, Spack is making a strong case for getting a shot to run a major program in his own right. He's still relatively young (52, I think) and knows the program, the university, and the conference well.
I don't know if Purdue administrators can let bygones by bygones. And I don't know if Purdue fans would welcome him with open arms. But I do think he'll get a chance somewhere. And my bet is he'll do a decent job.
I don't know if Purdue administrators can let bygones by bygones. And I don't know if Purdue fans would welcome him with open arms. But I do think he'll get a chance somewhere. And my bet is he'll do a decent job.
Brock Spack first 5 years at Illinois State: 33 wins, 24 Losses
Danny Hope's 5 years at EKU: 35 wins, 22 losses (was than hired by Purdue).
Conference standings (first 5 years)
Spack: T-3rd, T-3rd, 3rd, T-3rd, and 6th
Hope: 2nd, T-2nd, 2nd, T-4th, and 1st.
Hope sure looks like the better coach in the FCS. And that's exactly where Spack should stay.
Don't get everyone's infatuation with Spack and what could have been. Who knows, if we had hired Spack and he did just as poorly as Hope, we could be clamoring for Hope right about now. If Spack is such a hot commodity, with all the opens in football right now, why hasn't he moved up to an FBS school yet?
Yes, he's making a case now, but I wouldn't say it's a strong one but would be worth consideration. I just get tired of the revisionist history with Spack, I don't have anything against him, but seven years ago he was a defensive coordinator who coached some defensives with some pretty talented players that always seemed to under perform. We were known for our high power offense, not a dominate defense, yet we put a lot of good defensive players into the NFL and not a lot of offensive players. So we apparently had better talent on defense that offense yet we were usually just an average defensive team that was going to try and out score you.
I would be completely shocked if he was anyone's first choice for an opening, not saying he could not get an opening, but the question would be how far they had to move down their list of choices before they got to him.
There are 100+ teams in FBS. How many of those coaches ever played for a CHAMPIONSHIP at any level of college football? If he doesn't take a FBS job, it's because he just wants to stay in Normal, build his little program and retire. Otherwise, he'll probably be beating our ass at some MAC school soon. Hell his current team would mop the floor with us.
You are absolutely right.
That is why the best Indiana State by 3 points this year at home.
Since we only beat them by 24, no doubt they would've absolutely kicked our ass.
The arguement here as to whether we should have hired Spack or Hope is pointless! Either one was set up to fail anyways! Burke not willing to spend money on Asst coaches was the biggest problem. Danny boy coached the whole time with one hand tied behind his back.I think he did the best he could during his four years with what he had. If Spack would have been hired he would have to deal with the same salary issues.............all set up to fail!!!!!!!!!!
Agree 100% with you on this. I loved Spack when he was here but personally he screams mid-major at best. He would probably do extremely well at a place like Ball State or Toledo. I think he just doesn't have the 'IT' factor for a major program but he would probably do great things at a place like Ball State.
I agree completely. Love Spack while he was here and for all he did for us, but that doesn't mean he'd be a great HC at a P5 school. He just seems like a guy who found his niche and it's in the FCS or low FBS. And there's nothing wrong with that. Think he'd be a good coach in the MAC or MWC, and probably have a solid career.
The fact that people are arguing over which one, Hope or Spack, we should have hired speaks volumes of where the Purdue job ranks among the college football world.
Conveniently leave out his two best seasons.
How many NC games did Hope make? Did he ever win 13 games in a season? Were any of his teams ranked in the top 5?
Oh, that would be 0, no, and no. STFU
I didn't leave them out, if you could read I said Spack's "first 5 years" which would be equal to the same amount of time Hope spent at the same level of competition.
How many D1, Mr. Football of Indiana's did Hope have at QB? Think it's a coincidence that Spack's 2 best years have been when he had IU's former starting QB at the helm? Spack was a worse coach, record and standing wise, than Hope at the same amount of time at FCS football.
Let me start this out by saying in no way shape or form do I want Spack as our next HC.
With that disclaimer: you're an idiot.
Spack took one of the worst FCS schools and went 33-24 in his first 5 years. Then proceeded to go 22-4 over the next 2 years when he had his own recruited talent on the field. Spack is a good coach.
Hope on the other hand took over one of the most winning programs in FCS and proceeded to turn them into a mediocre team on the field.
The two scenarios are completely opposite of what happened at the schools they took over.
You can't compare a struggling program finally winning albeit slightly in the first 5 years versus a very good program being brought back to mediocrity over the first 5 years of the other. To then go and exclude the next 2 seasons for the Brock when he took his team to a national championship game last year and is still standing this year.
Once again, do some research before you spout nonsense.
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And it is because he took over one of the worst FCS teams there was; while Hope inherited his Alma Mater which was a great program going in. Do some real research before spouting garbage.
