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Both Purdue and IU should be commended

I never had a problem with Purdue because where I'm from, Purdue is completely irrelevant in the collegiate sporting conversation. In Southern Indiana, Purdue never carried enough sway with people to legitimately even talk about, let alone root for.

Then the internet happens and it gives everyone, big and small, a voice much bigger than they previously had. This is kind of what transpired with Purdue from my perspective. The internet actually gave a pulse to your fanbase. It let the world know that there is a small but strong Purdue support base.

When I come here and read this football board that represents Purdue's fanbase, I'm always shocked to read the comments regarding the program up there. I'm smart enough to understand that this place represents diehard fans who certainly have unrealistic views of their world. Comments like the above, regarding Purdue never losing recruits to Indiana is a classic delusional statement that gets thrown around on this forum with enough regularity to show just how goofy this board is.

In my lifetime, I'm 43, Purdue has never been great in anything. That's the exact reason no one down state cares or speaks about Purdue. Schools that display greatness exist all around Purdue. Michigan, MSU, IU, UofL, UK, Ohio State, etc., all have displayed greatness in basketball or football. Purdue can not say that, they've displayed a few competent teams that have won a conference championship here and there, but never winning anything of relevance on the national scene.

What compelled me to write this is some of the absurd comments I continually read on here about Purdue football being some sort of good program. I would say your basketball program is "decent to good" and your football program is mediocre. That's your lot in life, it is what it is. Quit making the dumbass comments.

Lol you’re 43 so that puts you in middle school in 1987. You lumped IU in with programs that have had success this decade.
 
IU fans on their site saying they’ve got a much deeper class. While i think they’ve got a solid class, I can’t imagine how, even with a strong bias, they could come to that conclusion in such confidence.
I am sure when Bell verbals to us that there will be IU people posting on there that they did not want him anyway and he would not have started for them next year.
 
I am sure when Bell verbals to us that there will be IU people posting on there that they did not want him anyway and he would not have started for them next year.

They already say things like Tom Allen recruited Indiana better because they have 3-6th players on rivals. And they still have a great shot at Bell, because Tuttle and Penix are so good. And GK doesn't count because he fell into Brohm's lap. Ipso facto, IU did a better job recruiting than Purdue in Indiana.

Ignore that Sampson is only going to IU because they gave his brother an offer, only offer he has according to 247. Or that the transfer Tuttle, is only going there because his dad was a punter there. Those count, GK doesn't.
 
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@td75 thinks IU is a more attractive option for in-state kids than Purdue lol. He's convinced because they landed the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th best kids in the state. It's funny he forgets to mention things like Purdue stopped recruiting Larry Tracy. James was a good pick-up but Purdue is going to end up with the 1 and 2 prospects in the state.
 
It's quite the sight. I don't think they all think this way, in the same way our worst doesnt speak for us, but man it is funny to watch some of the HOT takes spew.
 
I am sure when Bell verbals to us that there will be IU people posting on there that they did not want him anyway and he would not have started for them next year.

When Bell picks Purdue (which is a when, not if), it will be because he preferred Purdue over his other choices. It's obvious that Brohm and the offense he runs are very attractive for Bell.

It's really not that hard to admit for an opposing fan when your rival lands a kid that is unquestionably a coveted recruit. What amuses me is that many of you can't do the same with respect to IU landing guys like James, Williams and Robbins, all the while mocking IU fans for their lack of objectivity.
 
When Bell picks Purdue (which is a when, not if), it will be because he preferred Purdue over his other choices. It's obvious that Brohm and the offense he runs are very attractive for Bell.

It's really not that hard to admit for an opposing fan when your rival lands a kid that is unquestionably a coveted recruit. What amuses me is that many of you can't do the same with respect to IU landing guys like James, Williams and Robbins, all the while mocking IU fans for their lack of objectivity.
Except we legitimately know that Purdue didn't go after Williams, Robbins or Tracy. They did go after James. Williams is more potential than production and has grades issues. Tracy had his Iowa and Purdue offers pulled. Robbins had his best year as a sophomore, never really developed. Purdue would have certainly taken James, however adding Doerue to the class really lessened the sting.
 
When Bell picks Purdue (which is a when, not if), it will be because he preferred Purdue over his other choices. It's obvious that Brohm and the offense he runs are very attractive for Bell.

It's really not that hard to admit for an opposing fan when your rival lands a kid that is unquestionably a coveted recruit. What amuses me is that many of you can't do the same with respect to IU landing guys like James, Williams and Robbins, all the while mocking IU fans for their lack of objectivity.
You guys signed a very nice class. I gave props in another thread.

My comment stems from IU fans that still think that Bell is going there. As you mentioned, it is not going to happen. Did the same thing to UL fans that thought Wright could be flipped by Satterfield earlier this week.
 
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Except we legitimately know that Purdue didn't go after Williams, Robbins or Tracy. They did go after James. Williams is more potential than production and has grades issues. Tracy had his Iowa and Purdue offers pulled. Robbins had his best year as a sophomore, never really developed. Purdue would have certainly taken James, however adding Doerue to the class really lessened the sting.

You're the first one to admit on this board (at least that I've seen) that Purdue would have taken James. Progress!!!

My larger point is that it is possible for fans to acknowledge that their rival landed a good class. The numbers suggest that Purdue's class is better this year, but those same numbers also show that IU landed a good class as well.
 
You guys signed a very nice class. I gave props in another thread.

My comment stems from IU fans that still think that Bell is going there. As you mentioned, it is not going to happen. Did the same thing to UL fans that thought Wright could be flipped by Satterfield earlier this week.

IU fans who still think Bell is a possibility are deluding themselves. There was some chatter that Bell's visit to IU had given IU a chance but that chatter evaporated pretty quickly. Bell will be a terrific addition to an already strong Purdue class.
 
@td75 thinks IU is a more attractive option for in-state kids than Purdue lol. He's convinced because they landed the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th best kids in the state. It's funny he forgets to mention things like Purdue stopped recruiting Larry Tracy. James was a good pick-up but Purdue is going to end up with the 1 and 2 prospects in the state.
And again, you are on The Stalk...on the prowl after me! It's just my opinion, I mean signing four out of the top six seems to back me up.

You all have a really nice class, as does IU. It's been a longtime since they've both recruited this well.
 
And again, you are on The Stalk...on the prowl after me! It's just my opinion, I mean signing four out of the top six seems to back me up.

You all have a really nice class, as does IU. It's been a longtime since they've both recruited this well.
You also believe GK fell in our lap. He literally had every school on the planet after him. You do realize he is a high NFL prospect. He didn't need Purdue but Brohm is our coach and a really good one at that.
 
When Bell picks Purdue (which is a when, not if), it will be because he preferred Purdue over his other choices. It's obvious that Brohm and the offense he runs are very attractive for Bell.

It's really not that hard to admit for an opposing fan when your rival lands a kid that is unquestionably a coveted recruit. What amuses me is that many of you can't do the same with respect to IU landing guys like James, Williams and Robbins, all the while mocking IU fans for their lack of objectivity.

I will give you credit for landing James, Williams, and Robbins and will break each of them down:

James: we wanted him but not sure how much we recruited him after he committed to OSU. I'm guessing IU never stopped recruiting him including offering his younger brother. Regardless, a really good pickup for you guys.

Williams: His situation is well-documented. He only ended up taking 1 official visit as there are/were legit concerns about his grades. Purdue took another LB recently so they could've made room for Williams but didn't trust his grades and move on.

Robbins: Another nice pickup and while it would've been nice to have him, we landed a much better player at his position in Karlaftis.
 
You also believe GK fell in our lap. He literally had every school on the planet after him. You do realize he is a high NFL prospect. He didn't need Purdue but Brohm is our coach and a really good one at that.
I didn't state that he fell in your lap, although it has the classic appearance that he did just that. He's a great prospect, I know that.
 
And again, you are on The Stalk...on the prowl after me! It's just my opinion, I mean signing four out of the top six seems to back me up.

You all have a really nice class, as does IU. It's been a longtime since they've both recruited this well.

I'm disagreeing with you saying that kids think IU is a better destination than Purdue which I don't think is true at all. I think the only guy we missed on that we really wanted was James. After we landed Karlaftis, Robbins wasn't a take and Tracy was dropped by both Purdue and Iowa. Williams wasn't a take for Purdue either due to his grades. So while you landed some of the top guys in state, it's not like you beat Purdue head to head for all of them.
 
I didn't state that he fell in your lap, although it has the classic appearance that he did just that. He's a great prospect, I know that.
Thanks for clarifying what you said....or what you meant...
 
I will give you credit for landing James, Williams, and Robbins and will break each of them down:

James: we wanted him but not sure how much we recruited him after he committed to OSU. I'm guessing IU never stopped recruiting him including offering his younger brother. Regardless, a really good pickup for you guys.

Williams: His situation is well-documented. He only ended up taking 1 official visit as there are/were legit concerns about his grades. Purdue took another LB recently so they could've made room for Williams but didn't trust his grades and move on.

Robbins: Another nice pickup and while it would've been nice to have him, we landed a much better player at his position in Karlaftis.
I’d rather have Dontay Hunter than Robbins, too.
 
When Bell picks Purdue (which is a when, not if), it will be because he preferred Purdue over his other choices. It's obvious that Brohm and the offense he runs are very attractive for Bell.

It's really not that hard to admit for an opposing fan when your rival lands a kid that is unquestionably a coveted recruit. What amuses me is that many of you can't do the same with respect to IU landing guys like James, Williams and Robbins, all the while mocking IU fans for their lack of objectivity.

Dude, have you BEEN on the IU forum lately?

If so, they should REALLY amuse you.

There is a vacuum of objectivity for MANY of the IU posters on that forum. Which is okay, it's the IU forum.
 
You're the first one to admit on this board (at least that I've seen) that Purdue would have taken James. Progress!!!

My larger point is that it is possible for fans to acknowledge that their rival landed a good class. The numbers suggest that Purdue's class is better this year, but those same numbers also show that IU landed a good class as well.

I'm being nice, here, and I know you qualified the statement, but that's completely untrue.

If you had been around, you would have seen posts like that.

So... take this in the spirit intended, don't post something you don't know to be true.
 
You're the first one to admit on this board (at least that I've seen) that Purdue would have taken James. Progress!!!

My larger point is that it is possible for fans to acknowledge that their rival landed a good class. The numbers suggest that Purdue's class is better this year, but those same numbers also show that IU landed a good class as well.
10th best in BIG. Congrats
 
Thanks.I knew about some of those guys but not all of them.Merry Christmas to you,Mr Owlbird and I always look forward to you teaching us about sports history.O,by the way I was talking to a young guy the other day,and said he was raised on The Three Stooges,but had never heard of Laurel and Hardy.What a shame.Stan and Ollie were awesome.
Like Shemp Ollie would find his way into other movies(like with John Wayne).
 
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It's hilarious reading their board and seeing how delusional they are. Thinking their class is even close. They have Sampson James, and he's the only one comparable to a Karlaftis, Grant, Bell (when he signs with us), Wright, Faucheux.
 
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It's hilarious reading their board and seeing how delusional they are. Thinking their class is even close. They have Sampson James, and he's the only one comparable to a Karlaftis, Grant, Bell (when he signs with us), Wright, Faucheux.
Even, if they feel this way. They know that our Coach is superior in a major way. Remember, they were hoping and praying for him to be in Louisville.
 
It's actually comical to go read that stuff. I understand bias plays a big part, but objectivity has to come in at some point...

They're also talking about how tough their schedule is next year. Some real big matchups with Ball State, Eastern Illinois, and UCONN in non-conference. 3 wins to set up their disappointing 7th loss in Ross-Ade. Sharpie.
 
And again, you are on The Stalk...on the prowl after me! It's just my opinion, I mean signing four out of the top six seems to back me up.

You all have a really nice class, as does IU. It's been a longtime since they've both recruited this well.
Brohm is getting the top 2 players in the state and then getting better talent outside the state than the remaining in-state players.
 
It's actually comical to go read that stuff. I understand bias plays a big part, but objectivity has to come in at some point...

They're also talking about how tough their schedule is next year. Some real big matchups with Ball State, Eastern Illinois, and UCONN in non-conference. 3 wins to set up their disappointing 7th loss in Ross-Ade. Sharpie.
Or the fact they keep claiming if they were in the West. I believe their record in the West is well below .500. So, that is irrelevant in stating they would be better in the West IMO.
 
Or the fact they keep claiming if they were in the West. I believe their record in the West is well below .500. So, that is irrelevant in stating they would be better in the West IMO.
They don't play a Power 5 team in the non-conference schedule until 2023. Playing cupcakes to get to bowl games has been their strategy for decades, and they've still failed miserably. lol.
 
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They don't play a Power 5 team in the non-conference schedule until 2023. Playing cupcakes to get to bowl games has been their strategy for decades, and they've still failed miserably. lol.

Oh, wow. I just looked that up. They have a 3-game series vs UofL from 2023-2025, and that's it.

Ball State, EIU, UConn, UMass, UCincy, FIU, Charlotte, WKU, Idaho, Indiana State.

We've scheduled Memphis, Air Force, BC, Oregon State, UConn, ND, Indiana State, Syracuse, VaTech, Wake Forest, Vandy, TCU. There are some cupcakes in there, but also some serious opponents from P5 conferences.
 
@td75 with another gem today:

The 2017 roster was significantly better than Purdue’s roster. That was a really bad loss for Indiana. I hate to blame that game on Scales and Covington, but those two guys were worn out, and it showed. They played way, way too many snaps that year and TA even addressed that problem. That’s why Purdue won in 2017, our two best defenders had bad games.

Delusion at its finest right there. You didn’t lose because your linebackers had bad games. You lost because Purdue had the better coach and the better gameplan. Don’t give me this whole “they were tired/worn down garbage.” Every team was worn down and tired. Our QB was playing on a torn ACL!

Here’s my question for you: Who did Markell Jones embarrass more? Tegray Scales last year or Marcelino Ball this year?
 
@td75 with another gem today:

The 2017 roster was significantly better than Purdue’s roster. That was a really bad loss for Indiana. I hate to blame that game on Scales and Covington, but those two guys were worn out, and it showed. They played way, way too many snaps that year and TA even addressed that problem. That’s why Purdue won in 2017, our two best defenders had bad games.

Delusion at its finest right there. You didn’t lose because your linebackers had bad games. You lost because Purdue had the better coach and the better gameplan. Don’t give me this whole “they were tired/worn down garbage.” Every team was worn down and tired. Our QB was playing on a torn ACL!

Here’s my question for you: Who did Markell Jones embarrass more? Tegray Scales last year or Marcelino Ball this year?

that is delusional.

Purdue owned them last year and this, in spite of the relatively close score.

My goodness. I "get it" that some people are homers, but this illusion that IU has better facilities (they don't), is a better program (they're not), blah blah blah... that's just ... well, delusional.
 
that is delusional.

Purdue owned them last year and this, in spite of the relatively close score.

My goodness. I "get it" that some people are homers, but this illusion that IU has better facilities (they don't), is a better program (they're not), blah blah blah... that's just ... well, delusional.
The homer part doesn’t quite apply with TD75. He played football at Ball State, but says he grew up an IU and UL fan. He grew up in Jeffersonville if I recall his posts. But his obsession with talking up IU and absolutely hating on Purdue is way over the top.
 
Or the fact they keep claiming if they were in the West. I believe their record in the West is well below .500. So, that is irrelevant in stating they would be better in the West IMO.
In the last eleven seasons,IU is 11 wins,32 losses verses teams currently in the BIG west.And they are only a bit worse ,racking up a mark of 8 victories,40 defeats against the teams now in the BIG east.Would it really make much of a difference if they were in the West?
 
In the last eleven seasons,IU is 11 wins,32 losses verses teams currently in the BIG west.And they are only a bit worse ,racking up a mark of 8 victories,40 defeats against the teams now in the BIG east.Would it really make much of a difference if they were in the West?
Talk about overall FB suckitude, that’s IU. 19-72. Yikes. And to think D-Haze gave them 4 straight of those wins. Brohm is going to own IU for years and they know it!
 
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