Biggie vs Happ
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Happ is much better defensively and is the best player on what has so far been the best team. I think he has a case. That said I still think Swanigan should get the nod if the season ended right now.
I don't believe the "best team" thing at all. Barely winning against Minnesota (now not when they went off in Mackey) and RUTGERS in OT is not something to flaunt. Also, Michigan led the whole game until the end when some 3's went Wisconsin's way. Their offense is less than impressive. But back to Happ -- yes a lot better defensively than Biggie.
Oh I think he is the MVP of Wisconsin right now 100%. But I have not been impressed with Wisconsin in any game this year. Just doing the minimum to get the W against some teams. I will say, they are more mature than Purdue and more "consistent." Whether that be consistently scraping by teams. I guess a Win is a Win.
Best record and that's ultimately what matters. They aren't losing games they shouldn't even if they have had many close calls.
Hayes hasn't been as good as I thought he would be this year. Good thing for Wisky that Happ stepped up. Rest of the team is solid players, but nothing great.
I love Haap as a player...think he is great. However, Biggie , the warrior will get the nod IMO. I'm reminded of Brad Miller in Haap, but who does double doubles like Biggie? I'd start my team with Biggie, but wouldn't lose a lot of sleep if Haas was forced on me
currently and nationally, CS still seems to be favored
cbs
swanigan - 4
happ - 6
foxsports
swanigan - 4
happ - (not listed, not top 5)
bleacher report / moore
swanigan - 3
happ - 8
cbs
swanigan - 4
happ - 6
foxsports
swanigan - 4
happ - (not listed, not top 5)
bleacher report / moore
swanigan - 3
happ - 8
I thought it was POTFH....oh....nvm.
If Wisconsin beats Purdue he can be Happ, but for now he is Haap
Either way, it appears Indiana's remaining chances to pull out this game are hapless.
Any coach who would take Happ over Swanigan should be fired immediately. Swanigan is pretty much guaranteed 10/10 and likely to get 20/10. Every. Game. He is a power forward that last I checked was shooting over 50% from 3 on the SEASON. He is a once in a generation player for us and has an outstanding work ethic. Yes, turnovers are an issue but his rebounding ability is phenomenal. Wouldn't trade him for anyone in the country except....nope. No one.
Well, sometimes it haapens
And if more than one...another would "not" be unhaapythen one is unhappy....
I don't see any discussion of Happ being a National Player of the Year candidate, which Biggie is a serious candidate. Could it happen that Swanigan lose Big Ten POY and win the National POY? With the exposure Swanigan is getting, I would assume it should not be close in voting for Big Ten POY.
He has no case over Swanigan...he is a very good all-around player, but, he is not near the dominant player that Swanigan is, and, quite simply, he is not as good a player as Swanigan is. Nor do I believe that Wisconsin is the "best" team...best record...but I think Purdue is better...and if MD bigs actually contribute in the fashion that they did yesterday, they are better as well.
I don't foresee that scenario Happ-ening. I could see Happ getting Big Ten DPOY.
In some haaphazard manner Haap might get it, which would make bucky haapy and Biggie and the realists unhaapy. However, outside of some haaphazard manner, Biggie should get it making all of us haapy and Haap unhaapy. Haapiness is rarely found on both sides of the coin. There is no win-win scenario. Haap will either be haapy or unhaapy.
Happ does have a chance...a good one even...at B1G DPOTY...Mathias has made a case though also, which is incredibly hard to believe given the player that he was at that end when he arrived at Purdue.
Beside his stats...his example is priceless!
Yep; when your best player works his ass off like that and stays true to a disciplined diet and nutrition....it has to help and rub off at least a little. On top of that, don't cross him.....and for Heaven's sake, don't even try to take away one of his rebounds.....got that Midwestern Cowboy.
He is so much better than Swanigan on defense it's not even funny. And Wisconsin is the best team in the conference by rank and by record. They may not have the highest ceiling but I don't know how you can go against the evidence on the court. Like the old saying goes....You are what your record says you are.
Koenig averages 2 assists per game so must not be too many great passes.
Thank you, Blondie. I needed that.Reading that quickly will make you slaphappy.
Type lessReading that quickly will make you slaphappy.
Happ has taken 1 shot outside the paint in his entire collegiate career....1! He is also an atrocious free throw shooter. How that translates to an NBA 3 or 4 is beyond me.
That difference you noted is what made Kaminsky so good, along with his inside game.
He is shooting under 50% from the FT line and has only made one shot outside of the paint in his college career. Soooo no he cannot shoot.
