Bad draw - plain and simple

[BoilerBiker]

Since we are fussing about the game performance in this thread, did anyone really think about the way we played in the second half? I read a lot of meaningless generalizations about teams 3-4 years in the past that are supposed to be part of some sort of argument, but the reality is each year's team is different, and each year Painter seems to coach better. Some guys are even going back 12 years, after Painter had, what? 1 years experience as head coach? What kind of analysis is that? It is virtually meaningless.

So what happened in the second half? Keep in mind MSU just got clobbered by these guys by 20 points in the S16 game, so maybe Izzo has lost it too? Yeh, probably not. Maybe Kansas is really good, NC good.

I saw a Boilermaker team come out loose and play well for a half and a quarter. We had an excellent game plan and executed it very well. Then, Kansas got the lead. We had a guy try his best to win the game by himself, and he tried to play hero ball. The ball would go into Biggie and never come out. Painter was yelling to pass out of the double quickly, but sometime folks get really stubborn. They think they can win the game by themselves. We stopped getting open 3's because we stopped passing back out of the paint. I am not "blaming anyone". I am just saying that the must-win psychology affected our play in the second half, especially a kid who was barely 18 years old. Unfortunately, we played into their hands on the court, regardless of the coaching.

Fire Painter? Not going to happen, nor do I think it should. He is simply too good a coach, and runs a clean well respected program. His results are on a steady upswing since the dark-time-of-no-recruiting-budget. We are not pulling in the Donnie Hales now. We are getting Wheeler, Haarms, and Eastern type players. One of these kids could turn out to be a Mason. (Note, Mason was not a Burger Boy). We will have better balance of classes too, with several very good seniors next year. Something we have not had for a while. IMHO, with Painter, we will be a perennial contender for the BIG title, and we will be in the top 20 just about every year. It is only a matter of time before we will see FF's

-recruiting budget:
this has been discussed in detail before, but now that we have an AD/BOT willing to open and use the checkbook, do you think we will see a corresponding bump in recruiting results?
i'm not sure just throwing money at it will be a total solution. driving a mercedes vs burke's honda civic rental to a recruits game may help, but how much exactly? credit to painter, he has gone all-in on some top targets - recently JJJ, even traveling overseas to watch. but if painter spent a few more $, would it have actually helped land him?

-swanigan:
hero ball, stubborn, not listening to coaches, trying to win the game by himself......

i really do not understand why we would be so negative to the kids/players, while trying to defend the adults/coaches from the very same type of negative judgments.
just days ago, CS was praised for being the ultimate teammate for passing the ball out to PJT, for his end of game FT redemption.
hopefully i am totally misreading the above (as you say you try not 'blaming anyone'), but i think CS deserves far better treatment after what is likely his last game. he is painter's best recruit, the program's best player in years, and he has given his all for the program.

if painter did start landing more 5 stars, how would they avoid being labeled as playing hero ball?
for an elite level player, swanigan seems far more of a team player than many others.

 

[BoilerBiker]

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I strongly believe that it would extremely, extremely unlikely that Purdue couldn't replace Painter with someone who could do, at least, as good of a job as Painter in a 12-year body of work: winning two Big Ten titles and getting to 3 Sweet Sixteens. I think Purdue could easily find three guys each from the MAC or MVC who could do that at Purdue. I think it would be extremely unlikely for Purdue not to find another coach who could do as well as Painter.

since the early/mid 2000s, smaller conference schools of butler, xavier, gonzaga, wichita st have had better/deeper tourney success than purdue.
if they are disadvantaged by being a smaller school in smaller conferences(including various ones they've switched to), how are they achieving better results?
and, butler and xavier had their success across multiple coaching changes.

(could argue one advantage is being a basketball only school/not sharing the spotlight w/football, but then they also forfeit those shared football profits, big conference tv money, greater resources, etc)

 

[rustcr]

we got beat by the best team 30 minutes from their campus.

It was a great season. Looking forward to next year.

To all the venom spewers and arm chair coaches.

Piss off.

What's that again?

 

[Ben Richart]

Really, that's what you're going with to defend Painter? It was a bad draw?

What about last year? Was it the draw that that tough ALR team that kept us from the Final Four or Elite Eight?
Or was it also the draw the year before when we lost to Cincy?
Or the year before that?
Or the year before that?
I can do "year before that" question for 12 total years, all 12 years of Painter's tenure.

painter will be back
sincerely,
arnold

 

[PurdueBtfu2]

(Shaking my head)
Frankly, those comments on Swanigan are more than negative. They are ridiculous. I came on here several months ago to defend Isaac when fans and keyboard coaches were letting him have it. All while he was second or first on the team in numerous categories. This season Vincent was thrown under the bus, then Isaac, and eventually Ryan, PJ, and now Caleb. I have probably blocked out other garbage.

But why trash Caleb? Are you frickin' kiddin' me? So this is a thank you Caleb, disregard the haters. The rest of us truly appreciate your time and effort here at Purdue. We would like to have you back, but if not, best of luck as a PROFESSIONAL!

#PlayerAppreciation
#ThankYouBiggie