Armaan.....My Condolences
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Good for him...…..better for PU! I do wonder what momma thinks? Or maybe auntie runs the show, who knows.
Interesting turn of events...….would love to know the full story. I'll blame this on Adidas...….
The chance to play right away was too strong of a pull for him it appears.
Hunter, Eastern, and IT were never conceding playing time to him and thats a player at his position in his class, the class before, and the one before that.
Indiana has inferior guards on the roster and Archie really sold that as an opportunity to play right away. 3 stars dont often get the chance to go to a B1G school and play right away - I think that was a very strong selling point and I commend the kid on making the correct choice wheb it comes to playing time.
Hunter, Eastern, and IT were never conceding playing time to him and thats a player at his position in his class, the class before, and the one before that.
Indiana has inferior guards on the roster and Archie really sold that as an opportunity to play right away. 3 stars dont often get the chance to go to a B1G school and play right away - I think that was a very strong selling point and I commend the kid on making the correct choice wheb it comes to playing time.
He is not going to play right away at IU. 2 upperclassmen guards ahead of him. With both Hunter and Damezi as being projects to be developed into guards.
Not to mention they are still recruiting Jahmius Ramsey and even telling him he would take Romeos spot.
He won’t play right away if he develops maybe get minutes as a sophomore
Not to mention they are still recruiting Jahmius Ramsey and even telling him he would take Romeos spot.
He won’t play right away if he develops maybe get minutes as a sophomore
I love IT but if you’re going to call Franklin a 3* and cite that as his reason for going to IU because he’ll concede PT to IT is an outrageously bad take. IT is a 6 foot 165 lb 2 guard stuck in a PG’s body. A rotation of Eastern, Hunter, Franklin/Newman is way more plausible than one with IT. IT will mainly spell Eastern the next two years while Hunter and Franklin would have played as the two off ball guards. Franklin didn’t commit to IU because he feared losing minutes to IT. That’s a laughable take.
Franklin wont be getting minutes right away at IU.
I think he will play early. The only decent guard they have is a 1 and done. The rest are mac caliber
Franklin will still get 10-15 mpg at IU as a freshman just as he would have at Purdue. I think he chose fit at IU because of his skill set instead of Purdue.
Now a contrasting opinion from someone who has seen AF play 10x as often as you, and actually does this scouting thing for a living...
"Franklin would be coming off the bench at least for his first couple years, I believe. Just my opinion. That's a good player coming off the bench. I do like how he's shooting in open gyms to start this fall, but let's be honest, those are open gyms. A piece of the puzzle, sure, but let's not go overboard with open gyms.
I do think IU needs to add a stud wing or guard in 2019 or 2020 if a big-time March run is going to become likely. Players do improve, yes, but not just the ones at IU. Other players at other schools are allowed to improve also, that's why the starting point of player development — talent and athleticism — do matter.
Anyway, those are my quick thoughts. That's not a heavy breakdown, just my quick thoughts."
MAC caliber? Cmon dude. Damezi Anderson was one of our top targets last year and now he’s just a MAC caliber guard? Purdue was very aggressive with and wanted Phinisee until Phinisee said no thanks. Flip the table and none of these things are being said if these players are wearing black and gold. I understand not wanting to give any credit to your rival but damn at least try and have some objectivity.
I take a look around that roster and Im not really sure what Green or Phinissee has for him. I think theres a very good opportunity for him to go to Indiana and not only play but possibly start as a freshman at some point in the year.
You sure do like to "correct" a lot of your Boiler friends...…….
Franklin is going to be a good player at some point in his career. That much I would bet heavily on. I just think with his size and ability to dribble attack the basket, hes going to become a player.
But for him to become that player, its going to have to be as a lead guard/ball handler who makes things happen out of the PnR offensively. The more you watch videos of him, the more you start to realize his ceiling is high as a point guard on the ball, but so much lower playing off the ball. I think he tops out as a defensive specialist is he plays off the ball, unless he plays with a point guard who can stand in the corner and drill 3s while Franklin runs the PnR in half court sets.
I dont think so. Green and RP will be the PGs. I still think IU gets Ramsey, so he, Brooks, and Demezi will all get time at the 2
Devonte Green is definitely mac caliber. He is below average on both sides of the ball and his stats bear that out. Not to mention, the eye test definitely backs that up as well.
If he is going to play ahead of Franklin, even as a senior when Franklin is a freshman, he is essentially going to have to improve drastically.
Phinissee is whatever, I guess we can wait and see with him. I can go find posts 2 years old on the national board when he was considered a Purdue lock that I made wondering out loud why Purdue was recruiting him and how he didnt appear to be a B1G caliber guard. Apparently, some injury he had affected his play around that time so I'll withhold judgment.
But - theres certainly nobody who can look you in the eye and tell you Green and Phinissee are definitely better than Franklin. That is wishful thinking and wanting at the highest order.
I’m a basketball fan. I’m going to correct an statement that is blatant homerism. Suggesting that Purdue doesn’t need Franklin or that Franklin wouldn’t see the floor because of Isaiah Thompson is a blatant homer take. No disrespect to IT, but he has nowhere near the physical tools to come in and compete as a freshman. Yes Franklin needs to work on all facets of his game, but at 6-4, with long arms, and a frame that could easily support another 15 lbs, Franklin can at least contribute in some facet of the game because he’s physically ready. The same cannot be said for IT.
I'm just saying that shit is going to get old quick......you're on a PU forum. Homerism is to be expected, and encouraged. You can do what you want of course. BTW, the IT comments are damn close to disrespectful.
They play two different positions. Phinisee is a pure point guard while Green is a combo guard where Franklin is a pure 2 guard who right now is more of a slasher. Franklin is not going to start at IU, but he’ll play 10-15 mpg coming off the bench as a freshman. Green has shown some ability at being a reliable 3pt shooter (shot 40% from 3 in conference last year) and if Phinisee takes a big freshman to sophomore jump there’s a scenario where Phinisee and Green play together.
How are my IT comments disrespectful? He’s a 6 foot 160lb 2 guard? That’s fact. He’s not an elite athlete, and to expect a 6’0 165lb pound 2 guard to come in and play major minutes in the B10 is completely unfair to the player. Use your head.
I don’t mind homerism, but to use homerism as a crux for the sake of an end be all argument isn’t right. Especially when it isn’t true.
100% on this. Many of you are going to be disappointed in IT. He is a lock to redshirt due to lack of playing time and needed time to get stronger. Franklin was not worried about losing PT to him. Hopefully this opens a door for Newman.
He was recruited by CMP, is a true Boilermaker, and will do just fine at PU. To correct other posters about recruits who flat out turned their backs on this program by throwing one of our commits under the bus, before he even steps on the court, is in poor taste. If you want to be the self appointed hall monitor, then so be it....but come game night, get out of my way because I'm homering up PU big time......and you ain't gonna like it.
I’m not necessarily down on IT, just have a realistic outlook, especially his role as an underclassmen. He definitely has more upside than his brother, and that stems from him being taller, a little more athletic, and definitely a better all around scorer, but people forget that PJ was an elite scorer as well in high school and that never translated to the next level. I think PJ was able to carve out a tremendous career at Purdue because he was a great ball handler and a natural PG.
IT isn’t a natural PG. He can definitely handle the rock and he will project as a PG in college, but his greatest strength is by far and away his scoring ability. And while he may be an elite high school scorer, I struggle seeing that translate to the next level. He isn’t an elite athlete, and at 6 foot 160 lbs, he’s really going to struggle creating his own shot as well as separation against bigger and more athletic guards, especially as an underclassmen. Same concerns exist on the defensive end. People will surely cite Carsen Edwards as to why size doesn’t matter, but outside being the same height, Carsen is an immensely better athlete and has almost 30 lbs on IT. Carsen came in looking like a defensive back. None of these are personal shots at IT, more so hoping fans temper expectations with IT, especially as an underclassmen.
IT will be a 4 year starter who can score at all 3 levels. People raved about him a couple of months ago and were saying he looked like the best player on the court at times on his AAU team, which just so happens to have Keion Brooks and TJD as well.
So even if you chalk some of that up to hyperbole, its still very high praise.
Him and Hunter shariing the court together as two combo guards who both and can play on and off the ball will make Purdues offense very hard to defend. He was never ever going to concede playing time to Franklin.
And thats evidenced by the fact that for a month now everyone considered Franklin a Purdue lock until Archie Miller pointed out he wouldnt have enough playing time at Purdue.
So even if you chalk some of that up to hyperbole, its still very high praise.
Him and Hunter shariing the court together as two combo guards who both and can play on and off the ball will make Purdues offense very hard to defend. He was never ever going to concede playing time to Franklin.
And thats evidenced by the fact that for a month now everyone considered Franklin a Purdue lock until Archie Miller pointed out he wouldnt have enough playing time at Purdue.
You got me. Saying I have to lose my objectivity because Franklin didn’t commit to Purdue isn’t going to fly with me nor does it make you right because you’re adamant about letting your homerism get the best of you.
You would make myself or a charity of my choice very rich one day if you put your money where your mouth is. Are you willing to do that? IT has been committed to Purdue for over a year, you now just think Franklin came to the conclusion that he was never going to play at Purdue even though he was considered by most a Purdue lock up until the last 24 hours? You don’t think Newman wanting to go to Purdue, who will undoubtedly play over IT, maybe played a little bigger part?
So no chance Newman comes then right? Because IT will start over him?
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This has got to be one of the dumbest takes I’ve ever heard...You think a mid 150’s rated player is going to come in and take a seniors minutes? I don’t care if it’s IU or Pacific...Guys that have been playing college basketball for 4 years are going to be much more impactful than someone that is adjusting to the college game for the first time
Why would Franklins recruiting ranking be relevant to whether he plays right away or not? If he is better at basketball, he will play.
Kendall Stephens and Bryson Scott, who both ended up transferring from Purdue, left because guys like Dakota Mathias and PJ Thompson performed better on the court.
Franklins 140 ranking will not impact the player he eventually becomes, and it certainly doesnt change that hes very good at multiple facets of the game.
PJ Thompson started games all 4 years of his career. Dakota Mathias started games all 4 years of his career.
When players understand how to play the game of basketball and are good, coaches play them. Only message board posters think some arbitrary 3rd party recruiting system dictates playing time.
I swear...he reads a tweet or two and gets these ideas in his head like he just re-discovered fire with some of these takes.
I hate using IT at the expense of mocking MGK, because he is a good kid who I think will have a good 4 year career, but if he’s starting as a freshman because he’s replacing Carsen then Purdue is going to be in some trouble.
Thompson was recruited to play PG not the two.
Hunter was a kid Painter really wanted and has shown he's pretty good. To,say otherwise is not realistic.
If Painter didn't want Franklin he wouldn't have spent so much time recruiting him so it's definitely a loss. Yes he has issues with playing the two because he isn't a great shot but neither was Oladipo who turned out to be pretty good.
IU sold him on Purdue's loaded backcourt and since he played with Hunter and IT in AAU then he must have thought there was a lot of competition.
Best of luck to him, I hope it works out and he can handle the beat downs Painter will give lil Archie.
Hunter was a kid Painter really wanted and has shown he's pretty good. To,say otherwise is not realistic.
If Painter didn't want Franklin he wouldn't have spent so much time recruiting him so it's definitely a loss. Yes he has issues with playing the two because he isn't a great shot but neither was Oladipo who turned out to be pretty good.
IU sold him on Purdue's loaded backcourt and since he played with Hunter and IT in AAU then he must have thought there was a lot of competition.
Best of luck to him, I hope it works out and he can handle the beat downs Painter will give lil Archie.
And that's fine.....you have made your bed. Now, you're offering to make a bet "against" a PU commit because you disagree with another poster's opinion of him. I love your objectivity...…..
Were they seniors when they lost their jobs? The ranking is relevant because other than high ranked one and dones, experience plays a huge part in CBB. In almost all cases a senior (especially one with starts under their belt) will always be more impactful than a freshman (that won’t be leaving school after one year)
Yeah I’m starting to have my doubts whether or not this guy actually went to Purdue. Not sure if he could get the test scores necessary with logic like that.
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