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No, I don't seem to agree. Tactical nukes are not certain to be used but even if they are, you still have to secure territory and hold it with armor and infantry.
Your words: They can't take on NATO in a conventional ground war. But this ain't 1942. Likely be tactical nukes.

"Thus, you seem to agree that fighting them in Ukraine does the US no good and will not matter to the security of NATO countries because any further Russia invasions will involve tactical nukes."

You seem to be assuming that if Russia uses tactical nukes it's all over. NATO won't respond? Nukes haven't been used in Ukraine but we just assume Russia would use them when they go into Poland? The first one to use nukes puts themselves in serious diplomatic, economic, and political peril.
Not assuming anything other than UK and France's tactical nukes are as good as ours, so ours are not needed.

Russia obviously doesn't care about "serious diplo, econ, and political peril." That's what Biden said and they laugh at him.

I'm stating the views expressed by trump. He has talked about how NATO is obsolete. He has said he wouldn't help our allies attacked by Russia if they weren't spending their 2%..........directly undermining Article 5 that has been in place for 75 years.
Any other suggestions on how to get deadbeat countries to pay what they agreed to pay? They laugh at Biden.

Trump is going to spend as much if not more than any democrat on the military, funneling taxpayer money to big arms suppliers. You need to let that one go or admit trump will do the same or more.
The difference is the money now goes for arms for Ukraine (and to replace what we left for the Taliban thanks to the incompetence of Biden). Under Trump the arms will be for the US.
 
Your words: They can't take on NATO in a conventional ground war. But this ain't 1942. Likely be tactical nukes.


Not assuming anything other than UK and France's tactical nukes are as good as ours, so ours are not needed.

Russia obviously doesn't care about "serious diplo, econ, and political peril." That's what Biden said and they laugh at him.


Any other suggestions on how to get deadbeat countries to pay what they agreed to pay? They laugh at Biden.


The difference is the money now goes for arms for Ukraine (and to replace what we left for the Taliban thanks to the incompetence of Biden). Under Trump the arms will be for the US.
Ugh. Ground forces are still needed when tactical nukes are used. Most are much, much smaller than than warheads placed on intercontinental missiles. You don't seem to understand what they are or their purpose. Read my words and comprehend.


You want Europeans to fight a war in Europe and for us to stay home. Not gonna happen nor should it. Russia can compete with Europe. Not with us. A war in Europe is the world's problem. If we had stayed out in WW2 you might be speaking German. Isolationists like you tried to make that happen.

Europe ISN'T PAYING ANYTHING DONALD. Like trump, you still don't understand how NATO works lol.

Yeah, like Obama, you work with your allies and treat them with some respect to get them to SPEND the agreed amounts on defense. Lol. It's not like we're making up the difference because the money doesn't go to NATO.

Repeat they're laughing at Biden as much as you want. Doesn't make it true except in your fantasies.

The Taliban lol. Sure was nice of trump to withdraw all that equipment when he was withdrawing 11,000 troops. Most of the equipment left belonged to the Afghan government........who left town when trump excluded them from the negotiations. How many troops were you willing to lose while they traveled around the country, controlled by the Taliban, retrieving humvees?
 
Ugh. Ground forces are still needed when tactical nukes are used. Most are much, much smaller than than warheads placed on intercontinental missiles. You don't seem to understand what they are or their purpose. Read my words and comprehend.


You want Europeans to fight a war in Europe and for us to stay home. Not gonna happen nor should it. Russia can compete with Europe. Not with us. A war in Europe is the world's problem. If we had stayed out in WW2 you might be speaking German. Isolationists like you tried to make that happen.

Europe ISN'T PAYING ANYTHING DONALD. Like trump, you still don't understand how NATO works lol.

Yeah, like Obama, you work with your allies and treat them with some respect to get them to SPEND the agreed amounts on defense. Lol. It's not like we're making up the difference because the money doesn't go to NATO.

Repeat they're laughing at Biden as much as you want. Doesn't make it true except in your fantasies.

The Taliban lol. Sure was nice of trump to withdraw all that equipment when he was withdrawing 11,000 troops. Most of the equipment left belonged to the Afghan government........who left town when trump excluded them from the negotiations. How many troops were you willing to lose while they traveled around the country, controlled by the Taliban, retrieving humvees?
Bagram, Bagram, Bagram.
 
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