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Anyone catch this video from AOC this other day? Bribery is legal in American politics

She's an idiot but she does make a great point here. Both parties are guilty. Term limits would help.
 

She has a point. The idea that people think this is some sort of revelation is a bit astounding.

-Congress used to buy stocks, then pass laws helping said industry/company.
-Look at what Podesta does. In and out of politics, private firms, lobbying. Massaged the rules so while what he did with Joule is unethical, not illegal.
-Just not limited to campaign finance. People having their own 'Foundations' while in politics is a complete joke. Did not watch all of this clip but in one I saw she left that out for some reason.o_O
-Forget where the article was, maybe The Atlantic, but if a politician supported pipelines, it all depended on if they owned companies working on it.

List is never ending. There is a reason people making $150-$250G and living in DC area are worth 8 figures.
 
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She's an idiot but she does make a great point here. Both parties are guilty. Term limits would help.
Can you expand upon why she is an idiot? Purdue97 hit most of my thoughts as this is nothing new, just curious as to why you think she is an idiot.
 
She's an idiot but she does make a great point here. Both parties are guilty. Term limits would help.
Both sides are not the same, trying to make it seem that way is very disingenuous. Republicans have blocked every single attempt to try and clean things up. It’s Republicans that turned money into speech. Listen to any Republican Supteme Court justice, listen to any republican politician. Instead of saying “money” when talking about the issue, they replace it with the word “speech.”
 
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This was really really good. This should be the real populist movement in our country.

One thing about the President having no laws. He does have congressional committees that while designed to keep him under control, are used to hinder his abilities to do anything so in that regard he has more controls on him than Congress IMO
 
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Fresh views and new voices in Washington is a good thing. Of course, there are going to be extreme positions from those new voices on both sides of the aisle. Debate is healthy, the status quo needs to be shaken, money has corrupted the system.

I don't agree with much of what AOC stands for but that doesn't mean she can't be an effective advocate for fixing problems in the system. It's easy to simply dismiss those that seem extreme........... but the new outlook they bring may help be beneficial in ways we can all agree on.
 
Fresh views and new voices in Washington is a good thing. Of course, there are going to be extreme positions from those new voices on both sides of the aisle. Debate is healthy, the status quo needs to be shaken, money has corrupted the system.

I don't agree with much of what AOC stands for but that doesn't mean she can't be an effective advocate for fixing problems in the system. It's easy to simply dismiss those that seem extreme........... but the new outlook they bring may help be beneficial in ways we can all agree on.

I agree. I hope she introduces legislation that reigns n campaign finance, conflicts of interest, etc.
 
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I agree. I hope she introduces legislation that reigns n campaign finance, conflicts of interest, etc.
She doesn't have the juice to accomplish that. The money powers will make sure she is blunted. Should these things happen - heaven's yes, but she is not the one to get this done.
 
You being so dialed in to who has "the juice" makes it so.

She's literally been in Congress for weeks lol.

She's a lib. That's enough for you to dismiss her out of hand.
You just rebutted your own diatribe, Bob. She's been in Congress for a few weeks. And BTW, she's not your run-of-the-mill liberal (maybe to you she is) - she's an unabashed socialist. Although anymore, there seems to be less and less distinction between the two.....
 
She's an idiot but she does make a great point here. Both parties are guilty. Term limits would help.
Can you expand upon why she is an idiot? Purdue97 hit most of my thoughts as this is nothing new, just curious as to why you think she is an idiot.
Cause she just lost 125,000 jobs for her constituents. Do you need more examples?
 
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Big win today for AOC with the Amazon announcement. She is celebrating on social media.
 
Big win today for AOC with the Amazon announcement. She is celebrating on social media.
Now she’s busy trying to hunt down the account with the $3 billion in tax abatements, to help “invest it”. What a moron.
 
She's an idiot but she does make a great point here. Both parties are guilty. Term limits would help.

Both parties are guilty ...

Republicans - the rich/high born (in Washington)
Democrats - the rich who find their elitism in how you did in school... they are republicans with gay sons who are down with abortion

Progressives - this represents the positions held by the majority of every day people... and there’s something like 5 progressives in Congress

So yes, the two parties of elites are both at fault .. which is why elites need to be run out of Washington
 
Both parties are guilty ...

Republicans - the rich/high born (in Washington)
Democrats - the rich who find their elitism in how you did in school... they are republicans with gay sons who are down with abortion

Progressives - this represents the positions held by the majority of every day people... and there’s something like 5 progressives in Congress

So yes, the two parties of elites are both at fault .. which is why elites need to be run out of Washington
Everyday people are socialists? Really, you don't say.....
 
Everyday people are socialists? Really, you don't say.....

I used the word socialist? Or you’re talking to boogeymen again? Besides, how do you define socialists?

If it’s a word that means totalitarian to you, then no.. if it’s a word that means “more things like public education,” then yes.

Public education is a perfect example. Many people don’t have school age children or don’t have children at all. We all pay for something that provides a good. And that like everything being proposed by non corporate leeches, is better than a trillion a year on bombs
 

Exhibit A:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...edicare-for-all-and-free-college-tuition.html

Guess who doesn’t support it dipshit? The elitists who are in the 1% who “represent us.”

So you know that dumbass “both sides do it” talking point you’ve been parroting? Both sides of a sliver of elites do it. The conservative elite and the very socially liberal ALSO conservative economic elite (democrats in Washington).

If regular people were in Washington .. If there were 100 of them, not 5.. your head would explode. Because regular people aren’t lining up to compromise their beliefs to get rich.
 
Supports the notion that all in government office that have grown their net worth substantially more than explained by salary may need investigated…and conversely why maybe someone already with money not as apt to being bought out. Interesting as I recall a brother-in-law running for state congress in Ohio as dem back in the 80s suggesting to me a reason to vote for those that already had money. Yeah, I like the idea of an investigation into those whose wealth has grown while in public office. I think this would be a great start.
 
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