and the nightmare continues

[GrTexan]

"No drastic changes upcoming"

Don't expect any drastic changes after Purdue's 41-13 loss to Minnesota. Other than paring down the offensive playbook for quarterback David Blough, Darrell Hazell appears set to . . . .


Three seasons at Purdue:
three seasons of mid season quaterback changes
three seasons of paring down the offensive playbook.

 

[Bigohh]

"No drastic changes upcoming"

Don't expect any drastic changes after Purdue's 41-13 loss to Minnesota. Other than paring down the offensive playbook for quarterback David Blough, Darrell Hazell appears set to . . . .


Three seasons at Purdue:
three seasons of mid season quaterback changes
three seasons of paring down the offensive playbook.

Paring down the playbook has to be the answer!!!! Should go undefeated after that.

 

[BoilerTom90]

"No drastic changes upcoming"

Don't expect any drastic changes after Purdue's 41-13 loss to Minnesota. Other than paring down the offensive playbook for quarterback David Blough, Darrell Hazell appears set to . . . .


Three seasons at Purdue:
three seasons of mid season quaterback changes
three seasons of paring down the offensive playbook.

I don't expect any changes, which means a big fast L this weekend. You go Danny. You're doing great!!

 

[rgarlitz]

Sooooo, no winning?

 

[DG10]

"No drastic changes upcoming"

Don't expect any drastic changes after Purdue's 41-13 loss to Minnesota. Other than paring down the offensive playbook for quarterback David Blough, Darrell Hazell appears set to . . . .


Three seasons at Purdue:
three seasons of mid season quaterback changes
three seasons of paring down the offensive playbook.

Hard to have/make drastic changes when you do not know what you are doing...and that pertains to the HC, as well as his respective coordinators.

Paring down the offensive playbook is a joke...they run the same plays each week regardless of what is in the actual playbook, never mind what they even practice (seeing as they spent time last week on a two-back set that was not used a single time in the game...seems like with a team struggling offensively, a brilliant idea to spend time installing something that is never used!).

The first play of each series is virtually the same for the entirety of the game...a run for no gain directly up the middle. After that, it is a host of screen passes, bubble-less bubble screens, or a throw down the field to someone that is generally double covered and with a pass that has essentially no chance of being caught.

The playbook is not the problem...nor, in large part, is the respective talent (or lack thereof)...the problem begins with the HC and his own shortcomings, and is compounded by the shortcomings and poor jobs being done by both of his coordinators.

 

[PalmCoastFl]

This staff is in "LIMBO"!!!!! No way any of them come back. Burke has no choice at this point period! The buyout will be stretched out over X amount of years to make it manageable. I think we can all agree 1-11 is in the cards. Who the next coach is...............your guess is good as mine! I feel something is in the works right now.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Hard to have/make drastic changes when you do not know what you are doing...and that pertains to the HC, as well as his respective coordinators.

Paring down the offensive playbook is a joke...they run the same plays each week regardless of what is in the actual playbook, never mind what they even practice (seeing as they spent time last week on a two-back set that was not used a single time in the game...seems like with a team struggling offensively, a brilliant idea to spend time installing something that is never used!).

The first play of each series is virtually the same for the entirety of the game...a run for no gain directly up the middle. After that, it is a host of screen passes, bubble-less bubble screens, or a throw down the field to someone that is generally double covered and with a pass that has essentially no chance of being caught.

The playbook is not the problem...nor, in large part, is the respective talent (or lack thereof)...the problem begins with the HC and his own shortcomings, and is compounded by the shortcomings and poor jobs being done by both of his coordinators.

I would respectfully disagree. It is in large part the talent, which is alarmingly poor. And hazell is well on his way to his 4th low-ranked recruiting class, so more of the same is on the way.

 

[DG10]

I would respectfully disagree. It is in large part the talent, which is alarmingly poor. And hazell is well on his way to his 4th low-ranked recruiting class, so more of the same is on the way.

Talent is lacking certainly...I don't disagree with that...but, there is talent on the roster (or at least enough of it to not be embarrassed as they were on Saturday). Since he arrived, Hazell has failed to utilize the even little amount of talent that he had on the roster.

I have suggested that his inability to recruit was his biggest issue, but I have grown to believe that even if he could somehow successfully recruit that he would still not have success due to his shortcomings and those of both of his coordinators.

 

[threeeputtt]

"No drastic changes upcoming"

Don't expect any drastic changes after Purdue's 41-13 loss to Minnesota. Other than paring down the offensive playbook for quarterback David Blough, Darrell Hazell appears set to . . . .


Three seasons at Purdue:
three seasons of mid season quaterback changoraes
three seasons of paring down the offensive playbook.

We should get a moral victory in Madison assuming the line is at least 30+ points.

 

[Redhotfill]

This staff is in "LIMBO"!!!!! No way any of them come back. Burke has no choice at this point period! The buyout will be stretched out over X amount of years to make it manageable. I think we can all agree 1-11 is in the cards. Who the next coach is...............your guess is good as mine! I feel something is in the works right now.

Now that Steve Sarkisian is damaged goods, I wonder what is price will be when he is done with rehab?

 

[Redhotfill]

This staff is in "LIMBO"!!!!! No way any of them come back. Burke has no choice at this point period! The buyout will be stretched out over X amount of years to make it manageable. I think we can all agree 1-11 is in the cards. Who the next coach is...............your guess is good as mine! I feel something is in the works right now.

Now that Steve Sarkisian is damaged goods, I wonder what is price will be when he is done with rehab?
Consider this: Sarkisian turned Washington from a laughingstock (hmnn that sound familiar?) — the Huskies went 0-12 the year before his arrival — into a quality Pac-12 program that finished over .500 four of his five seasons and reached four bowl games.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Now that Steve Sarkisian is damaged goods, I wonder what is price will be when he is done with rehab?

my guess will be a young guy like Mike Norvell from ASU who has a great rapport w/ the kids, tireless worker, offense oriented, and is also a QB mentor. Also wouldn't have to pay him a ton so that would help w/ DH's buyout. If not him, the guy at Memphis is making a name for himself.

 

[Evergr8ful]

Talent is lacking certainly...I don't disagree with that...but, there is talent on the roster (or at least enough of it to not be embarrassed as they were on Saturday). Since he arrived, Hazell has failed to utilize the even little amount of talent that he had on the roster.

I have suggested that his inability to recruit was his biggest issue, but I have grown to believe that even if he could somehow successfully recruit that he would still not have success due to his shortcomings and those of both of his coordinators.

I agree with you.

1) His recruiting plan has proven to be ineffectual at Purdue. You can't wait until late in the recruitment period because of your intensive "vetting process" and THEN, after a recruit has 25 other offers, swoop in and win the recruiting battle. That worked at O$U where guys grow up dreaming to play in Columbus, it will not work at Purdue and that you're still doing it 3+ years into the job shows that you're not paying attention.

2) The result has been basement-level recruiting classes that are not equipped to run the Tresselball lite that you've tried to employ at Purdue. O$U could "out athlete" the competition, without the top athletes that plan won't work and you need to scheme your plan to exploit your opponents weaknesses. That's not been done. (Remember Tiller having Orton throw something like 80 pass plays at Wisconsin a decade ago for our last Madison win?)

3) When you DO have an athlete with talent, you need to find a way to get them in the game. Hazel has tried to make competent QBs play in a system that's not suited to their skills. He's had a stable of speedy RBs who were built for jet sweeps and catching the ball in the flat, but insisted on "up the gut" between the tackles running. Player who bled Old Gold and Black, and we're involved in successful plays on their limited playing time, even talked in their exit interviews that they're not sure why they weren't given more opportunities or told what they needed to improve to see more of the field.

4) For three years you've refused to put your faith behind a QB early to let the guy settle in as "the guy." and have constantly made look over their shoulder instead of making them feel confident. Even Brees threw a lot of interceptions, but he's also throw a hell of a lot of downfield TDs. He never was made to feel that he was one interception away from losing his starting job. For three years you've waited until just before the first game to announce who'd you'd chose to lead the team...only to pull that player 3 games into the season when they were faltering. You're obviously doing something wrong in either not committing to a guy early (and building the team around his skill set, while also instilling confidence in the guy) and you're a terrible judge of QB skill level that you've had to make QB switches just 3 games into each season. (5) different starting QBs and not one of them pulled for injury reasons, in 3 years is ridiculous.

 

[AZboiler]

Paring down the playbook has to be the answer!!!! Should go undefeated after that.

We can continue to dump on DH but it doesn't improve anything. His interview was understandable... - First half we didn't do well, but didn't get killed until 3rd Qtr. The reason we didn't compete well is we did not execute the offense. The Freshman QB didn't execute and we got hammered... QB played like a Freshman - what a surprise... even Drew Brees waiting until his sophomore year to start.
So what should DH do??
I'm a baseball guy, I may be off base but, seems to me the OC should respond to a by taking the decision away.... run the ball. Make short passes where QB doesn't hold ball 1 or 2 options, then throw it away... - take the decision process easier. Let the offense run until qb gets back to sync. Does that sound reasonable?

 

[threeeputtt]

We can continue to dump on DH but it doesn't improve anything. His interview was understandable... - First half we didn't do well, but didn't get killed until 3rd Qtr. The reason we didn't compete well is we did not execute the offense. The Freshman QB didn't execute and we got hammered... QB played like a Freshman - what a surprise... even Drew Brees waiting until his sophomore year to start.
So what should DH do??
I'm a baseball guy, I may be off base but, seems to me the OC should respond to a by taking the decision away.... run the ball. Make short passes where QB doesn't hold ball 1 or 2 options, then throw it away... - take the decision process easier. Let the offense run until qb gets back to sync. Does that sound reasonable?

Pretty logical and sensible. I suggest we throw that away and do something else.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

We can continue to dump on DH but it doesn't improve anything. His interview was understandable... - First half we didn't do well, but didn't get killed until 3rd Qtr. The reason we didn't compete well is we did not execute the offense. The Freshman QB didn't execute and we got hammered... QB played like a Freshman - what a surprise... even Drew Brees waiting until his sophomore year to start.
So what should DH do??
I'm a baseball guy, I may be off base but, seems to me the OC should respond to a by taking the decision away.... run the ball. Make short passes where QB doesn't hold ball 1 or 2 options, then throw it away... - take the decision process easier. Let the offense run until qb gets back to sync. Does that sound reasonable?

We have been running the ball, but when your O-line sucks, you end up with a lot of 2nd and 9s and 3rd and 8s.

 

[SupremeHawk]

(Remember Tiller having Orton throw something like 80 pass plays at Wisconsin a decade ago for our last Madison win?)

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......pretty sure you lost that game.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......pretty sure you lost that game.

Wrong, we won in Madison in 2003 with Orton throwing for 419 yards:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/recap?gameId=232910275

 

[SupremeHawk]

Wrong, we won in Madison in 2003 with Orton throwing for 419 yards:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/recap?gameId=232910275

Oops, was confused with the Brees game where he set the record for passing attempts.

For-giviness-preese.

 

[Boilers1975]

Paring down the pl a y book ? Thought we only had 4 plays ?

 

[pu1985]

Paring down the pl a y book ? Thought we only had 4 plays ?

Hopefully one we pare down is the patented Shoopster up the middle run to open every game.
That's one we could easily do without!

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

I see where Hazell wants to run more, I was at the Minnesota game, there was no where to run for Knox and Jones. so I don't know what good that would have done.