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An education for Mizzou who'd be 'embarrassed' to lose to Purdue ...

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Remember way back last month, when the moon fully eclipsed all you good folks in Columbia, Mo., much like Kansas does? Well, one of Purdue’s own was the first to walk on it. We had the last one there, too. We’ve long been above all.

Before Armstrong and Gene Cernan, we gave Gus Grissom the right stuff and, later, Sully. We gave a new plane to a third-year employee, Amelia Earhart. She never brought it back, but we got her papers instead. Neil’s, too. We even flew with the Wright Brothers and upgraded their ride. And our man George Peppard won “The Blue Max,” just after he’d had breakfast and won The West.

Yes, we are Purdue, and, yes, we had the first university airport, the first degree for pilots, the first man to fly over 100,000 feet and two dozen astronauts, but that’s getting off track, because we’re better known for making trains. Or mastering terrain, like our tie guy, Pete Dye. Many watch the game long mastered by John Wooden while eating the products of Orville Redenbacher, two more of our guys. Some might know we’ve won more Big Ten Conference basketball championships than anyone else in the league … which, by the way, we founded.

We’ve taken other giant leaps for mankind, like being first to map the Zika virus and winning world food prizes. Boilermakers invented fiberglass, barcodes, C-SPAN, Little Orphan Annie and Nemo. We engineered Hoover Dam and the Golden Gate. We’ve headed McDonald’s and Walgreen’s. We’ve won Daytona and the Brickyard. We had a football player named “America’s Next Top Model.”

Yes, football is where we really look good. Again, by air, we’re above all. Fact is, Purdue quarterbacks have passed for more yards and more touchdowns than any other school in NFL history. And we’ve got the most NFL wins, too.

Perhaps your old folks recall a guy named Len Dawson, who chiefly starred in the first and fourth Super Bowls, coached by another Boilermaker, Hank Stram. Then there was Bob Griese, leading the perfect Dolphins before becoming the best in the booth. The voice of the SEC, our Gary Danielson, had a nice run in the NFL, as did GQ cover-boy Jim Everett, Scott Campbell and Kyle Orton. Mike Phipps and Mark Herrmann were consensus All-Americans after leading their teams to the No. 1 ranking and bowling over Missouri, respectively. And topping them all is the third-leading passer in NFL history, the third of our three Super Bowl champion QBs, Drew Brees. One of your best, fittingly named Chase, has held his clipboard.

Heck, even our castoff QBs from the worst four years in our football history became the starters last year for LSU and Florida. Both finished better than 4-8.

And that’s just our quarterbacks. So, after winning exactly one more football game than us in the past year, if you still think Purdue is so beneath you, try telling your new basketball coach. Or U.S. News. Or walk into a bar and ask for a Tiger, then a Boilermaker. See which one draws a blank and which one always has a shot.
 
Remember way back last month, when the moon fully eclipsed all you good folks in Columbia, Mo., much like Kansas does? Well, one of Purdue’s own was the first to walk on it. We had the last one there, too. We’ve long been above all.

Before Armstrong and Gene Cernan, we gave Gus Grissom the right stuff and, later, Sully. We gave a new plane to a third-year employee, Amelia Earhart. She never brought it back, but we got her papers instead. Neil’s, too. We even flew with the Wright Brothers and upgraded their ride. And our man George Peppard won “The Blue Max,” just after he’d had breakfast and won The West.

Yes, we are Purdue, and, yes, we had the first university airport, the first degree for pilots, the first man to fly over 100,000 feet and two dozen astronauts, but that’s getting off track, because we’re better known for making trains. Or mastering terrain, like our tie guy, Pete Dye. Many watch the game long mastered by John Wooden while eating the products of Orville Redenbacher, two more of our guys. Some might know we’ve won more Big Ten Conference basketball championships than anyone else in the league … which, by the way, we founded.

We’ve taken other giant leaps for mankind, like being first to map the Zika virus and winning world food prizes. Boilermakers invented fiberglass, barcodes, C-SPAN, Little Orphan Annie and Nemo. We engineered Hoover Dam and the Golden Gate. We’ve headed McDonald’s and Walgreen’s. We’ve won Daytona and the Brickyard. We had a football player named “America’s Next Top Model.”

Yes, football is where we really look good. Again, by air, we’re above all. Fact is, Purdue quarterbacks have passed for more yards and more touchdowns than any other school in NFL history. And we’ve got the most NFL wins, too.

Perhaps your old folks recall a guy named Len Dawson, who chiefly starred in the first and fourth Super Bowls, coached by another Boilermaker, Hank Stram. Then there was Bob Griese, leading the perfect Dolphins before becoming the best in the booth. The voice of the SEC, our Gary Danielson, had a nice run in the NFL, as did GQ cover-boy Jim Everett, Scott Campbell and Kyle Orton. Mike Phipps and Mark Herrmann were consensus All-Americans after leading their teams to the No. 1 ranking and bowling over Missouri, respectively. And topping them all is the third-leading passer in NFL history, the third of our three Super Bowl champion QBs, Drew Brees. One of your best, fittingly named Chase, has held his clipboard.

Heck, even our castoff QBs from the worst four years in our football history became the starters last year for LSU and Florida. Both finished better than 4-8.

And that’s just our quarterbacks. So, after winning exactly one more football game than us in the past year, if you still think Purdue is so beneath you, try telling your new basketball coach. Or U.S. News. Or walk into a bar and ask for a Tiger, then a Boilermaker. See which one draws a blank and which one always has a shot.
Awesome.

Missing the Pete Dye reference though!
 
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Remember way back last month, when the moon fully eclipsed all you good folks in Columbia, Mo., much like Kansas does? Well, one of Purdue’s own was the first to walk on it. We had the last one there, too. We’ve long been above all.

Before Armstrong and Gene Cernan, we gave Gus Grissom the right stuff and, later, Sully. We gave a new plane to a third-year employee, Amelia Earhart. She never brought it back, but we got her papers instead. Neil’s, too. We even flew with the Wright Brothers and upgraded their ride. And our man George Peppard won “The Blue Max,” just after he’d had breakfast and won The West.

Yes, we are Purdue, and, yes, we had the first university airport, the first degree for pilots, the first man to fly over 100,000 feet and two dozen astronauts, but that’s getting off track, because we’re better known for making trains. Or mastering terrain, like our tie guy, Pete Dye. Many watch the game long mastered by John Wooden while eating the products of Orville Redenbacher, two more of our guys. Some might know we’ve won more Big Ten Conference basketball championships than anyone else in the league … which, by the way, we founded.

We’ve taken other giant leaps for mankind, like being first to map the Zika virus and winning world food prizes. Boilermakers invented fiberglass, barcodes, C-SPAN, Little Orphan Annie and Nemo. We engineered Hoover Dam and the Golden Gate. We’ve headed McDonald’s and Walgreen’s. We’ve won Daytona and the Brickyard. We had a football player named “America’s Next Top Model.”

Yes, football is where we really look good. Again, by air, we’re above all. Fact is, Purdue quarterbacks have passed for more yards and more touchdowns than any other school in NFL history. And we’ve got the most NFL wins, too.

Perhaps your old folks recall a guy named Len Dawson, who chiefly starred in the first and fourth Super Bowls, coached by another Boilermaker, Hank Stram. Then there was Bob Griese, leading the perfect Dolphins before becoming the best in the booth. The voice of the SEC, our Gary Danielson, had a nice run in the NFL, as did GQ cover-boy Jim Everett, Scott Campbell and Kyle Orton. Mike Phipps and Mark Herrmann were consensus All-Americans after leading their teams to the No. 1 ranking and bowling over Missouri, respectively. And topping them all is the third-leading passer in NFL history, the third of our three Super Bowl champion QBs, Drew Brees. One of your best, fittingly named Chase, has held his clipboard.

Heck, even our castoff QBs from the worst four years in our football history became the starters last year for LSU and Florida. Both finished better than 4-8.

And that’s just our quarterbacks. So, after winning exactly one more football game than us in the past year, if you still think Purdue is so beneath you, try telling your new basketball coach. Or U.S. News. Or walk into a bar and ask for a Tiger, then a Boilermaker. See which one draws a blank and which one always has a shot.
Born Boiler I love this! Congrats on the post of the year! You hit a home run!
 
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Mizzou has won its division in football 5 times in 10 years (2007, 2008, 2010, 2013 and 2014). We fell off the cliff a bit in 2015 - mostly because of late recruiting defections in 2011 when we announced the move to the SEC and then poor recruiting in 2012 with a change in recruiting strategy/territories. Also, our QB in '14/'15 had issues that caused him to get dismissed after the guys under him transferred. The backup was true FR Drew Lock who got thrown to the wolves on a team with a depleted line.

We have had better recruiting classes (by the numbers anyway) the last 4-5 years and our coach in theory has a head start in his rebuilding job. Does that translate to a win? I don't know, but it is probably going to mean more than Len Dawson.
 
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Mizzou has won its division in football 5 times in 10 years (2007, 2008, 2010, 2013 and 2014). We fell off the cliff a bit in 2015 - mostly because of late recruiting defections in 2011 when we announced the move to the SEC and then poor recruiting in 2012 with a change in recruiting strategy/territories. Also, our QB in '14/'15 had issues that caused him to get dismissed after the guys under him transferred. The backup was true FR Drew Lock who got thrown to the wolves on a team with a depleted line.

We have had better recruiting classes (by the numbers anyway) the last 4-5 years and our coach in theory has a head start in his rebuilding job. Does that translate to a win? I don't know, but it is probably going to mean more than Len Dawson.

That, and a handful of one dollar bills will get you a cup o' joe at the local overpriced coffee house.
 
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Mizzou has won its division in football 5 times in 10 years (2007, 2008, 2010, 2013 and 2014). We fell off the cliff a bit in 2015 - mostly because of late recruiting defections in 2011 when we announced the move to the SEC and then poor recruiting in 2012 with a change in recruiting strategy/territories. Also, our QB in '14/'15 had issues that caused him to get dismissed after the guys under him transferred. The backup was true FR Drew Lock who got thrown to the wolves on a team with a depleted line.

We have had better recruiting classes (by the numbers anyway) the last 4-5 years and our coach in theory has a head start in his rebuilding job. Does that translate to a win? I don't know, but it is probably going to mean more than Len Dawson.
We provided a list of accomplishments. You provided a list of excuses. Weird.
 
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We provided a list of accomplishments. You provided a list of excuses. Weird.

5 division championships in 10 years. How many you got? No excuses here.. Those are the things that happened. We aren't nearly as good as we were 3 years ago. We need to get better. The whole premise of the OP was to educate Mizzou folks who would be embarrassed to lose to Purdue.

No matter how long your list of non-football accomplishments is, it is completely irrelevant to whether a fan of another school should be embarrassed to lose to you in football. Also, OP makes it sound like Mizzou fans are a little too full of ourselves for having a potential to be embarrassed if we lose. That doesn't make us arrogant. Name another Big Ten program whose fans would NOT feel the same way. I'll hang up and listen.
 
Worst blowhard Dad on my kid's football team is a Missouri grad. For some reason he thinks their overall football profile is way higher than ours, their basketball profile is equal to ours and their academic achievements eclipse ours.

Misouri has never won anything of significance in football, they aren't in the top 25 historically in basketball and it might as well be Mizzou Technical College as far as academics go. God I hate that guy. Luckily, he no longer talks to me.

Any chance you live north of Denver MUTiger?
 
5 division championships in 10 years. How many you got? No excuses here.. Those are the things that happened. We aren't nearly as good as we were 3 years ago. We need to get better. The whole premise of the OP was to educate Mizzou folks who would be embarrassed to lose to Purdue.

No matter how long your list of non-football accomplishments is, it is completely irrelevant to whether a fan of another school should be embarrassed to lose to you in football. Also, OP makes it sound like Mizzou fans are a little too full of ourselves for having a potential to be embarrassed if we lose. That doesn't make us arrogant. Name another Big Ten program whose fans would NOT feel the same way. I'll hang up and listen.

It sounds like it does because we as fans of Purdue football are typically more proud of our standing as an academic institution. Purdue frequently is confused as an Ivy League school and is sought out world-wide by countries to send some of their best and brightest young people to learn and get an education second to none in many fields. Plainly put, we don't sacrifice our academics for our athletics whereas many others do blindly and willingly.

As a frame of reference, your division titles came in arguably the easiest conference divisions of their period of time (Big 12 North and SEC East). At the time of Missouri's entrance in to the SEC East, Florida and Tennessee were likely at one of the lowest points in their programs recent history. You also did not not have to contend with Oklahoma, Okie State, or Texas in the North Divison in the Big 12...instead getting Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and Colorado...essentially gift wrapped 4 conference wins each season and only having Nebraska with a pulse of respectable finishes.
 
C'mon man. Nobody in the history of football would care or know who won division titles. Ask him when Missouri last won a conference title.
 
For a school that is proud of its academic prowess, the OP is strangely full of logical "fail". If the premise is that Missouri fans are arrogant to put down Purdue football, then 1) Demonstrate why Purdue football is at least close to on-par wtih Missouri over the last 20 years and 2) Perhaps provide example of what Missouri fans are saying and why it is invalid.

If instead the Premise is that Purdue is a great academic institution and Mizzou fans should look at Purdue's accomplishments with a broader lens, then state that as the premise and lose the criticism about Mizzou fans feeling like we are better in football overall.
 
For a school that is proud of its academic prowess, the OP is strangely full of logical "fail". If the premise is that Missouri fans are arrogant to put down Purdue football, then 1) Demonstrate why Purdue football is at least close to on-par wtih Missouri over the last 20 years and 2) Perhaps provide example of what Missouri fans are saying and why it is invalid.

If instead the Premise is that Purdue is a great academic institution and Mizzou fans should look at Purdue's accomplishments with a broader lens, then state that as the premise and lose the criticism about Mizzou fans feeling like we are better in football overall.
The OP is responding to the other thread where a Mizzou beat writer said losing to us would be "inexcusable". The OP took offense to a perceived arrogance in that statement. You're proud of your school; we're proud of ours. Sounds like the makings of a great two game series.

See you at the game today. We'll be tailgating in lot K by the Purdue flag. Stop by for a beer.
 
5 division championships in 10 years. How many you got? No excuses here.. Those are the things that happened. We aren't nearly as good as we were 3 years ago. We need to get better. The whole premise of the OP was to educate Mizzou folks who would be embarrassed to lose to Purdue.

No matter how long your list of non-football accomplishments is, it is completely irrelevant to whether a fan of another school should be embarrassed to lose to you in football. Also, OP makes it sound like Mizzou fans are a little too full of ourselves for having a potential to be embarrassed if we lose. That doesn't make us arrogant. Name another Big Ten program whose fans would NOT feel the same way. I'll hang up and listen.

The reason Mizzou wasn't seriously considered for the B1G is becoming more and more clear.

And, yes, your posts have a tone of arrogance. Hint: You're on a Purdue forum.
 
For a school that is proud of its academic prowess, the OP is strangely full of logical "fail". If the premise is that Missouri fans are arrogant to put down Purdue football, then 1) Demonstrate why Purdue football is at least close to on-par wtih Missouri over the last 20 years and 2) Perhaps provide example of what Missouri fans are saying and why it is invalid.

If instead the Premise is that Purdue is a great academic institution and Mizzou fans should look at Purdue's accomplishments with a broader lens, then state that as the premise and lose the criticism about Mizzou fans feeling like we are better in football overall.
Forget it. He's on a roll!
 
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We have had better recruiting classes (by the numbers anyway) the last 4-5 years and our coach in theory has a head start in his rebuilding job. Does that translate to a win? I don't know, but it is probably going to mean more than Len Dawson.


Do you mean more meaningful than the Len Dawson who threw four touchdown passes in winning his collegiate debut 31-0 against ... Missouri? (… as noted by GBI publisher Alan Karpick … https://purdue.rivals.com/news/historical-odds-and-ends-purdue-missouri)
 
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Awesome.

Missing the Pete Dye reference though!

Should've said "our railroad tie guy" -- the signature way that Purdue Pete of the Links gives a bunker mentality to his golf courses ... of which he designed two for free for his alma mater's campus.

(Thanks, folks. I’m just glad we’re not playing the Hurricanes … with six shots and admittedly much tastier.)
 
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