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Open the schools or else.

Who is 'your crowd'? You must have me confused with someone else.
Why would you be willing to pay the interest on student loans unless you didn't have the money? Seems dumb that you are relying on someone else to eventually pick up the tab too? I have no faith that will ever come to pass.
My wife and I are financially ready for both our kids to go to college with about 8 years to spare.
Seriously? The writing is on the wall. I could lease a Porsche 911 with the savings I’ll have after we get student loans instead of paying for it with our own funds that we’ve saved. The writing is on the wall, Biden wins, student loans will be forgiven. I don’t want to be the last responsible adult paying out of pocket for my kids education.
 
Seriously? The writing is on the wall. I could lease a Porsche 911 with the savings I’ll have after we get student loans instead of paying for it with our own funds that we’ve saved. The writing is on the wall, Biden wins, student loans will be forgiven. I don’t want to be the last responsible adult paying out of pocket for my kids education.
I'm not as hopeful as you are that student loans are actually going to be forgiven if Biden wins. Especially if schools are going to suffer as predicted due to potentially huge drops in enrollment.
I could see them doing something with interest rates on student loans.
Looking at this Forbes article on Biden's plan. It talks about student loan forgiveness for borrowers making under 125k. That doesn't help myself or probably many people on here I'd imagine. Prob not you either, but I'm just guessing. There is also 10k worth of forgiveness per borrower looks like too.
I really have no faith that much of this will actually get done.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2020/04/09/student-loans-forgiveness-biden/#6a1e510b7e39
 
Seriously? The writing is on the wall. I could lease a Porsche 911 with the savings I’ll have after we get student loans instead of paying for it with our own funds that we’ve saved. The writing is on the wall, Biden wins, student loans will be forgiven. I don’t want to be the last responsible adult paying out of pocket for my kids education.
If student loans are forgiven, I want reparations for all the money I paid for my education and my kids education.
 
Yet it took Trump to actually do something about it. Same story with NATO funding and the WHO. That's why the DC establishment hates him.
NAFTA ready for change

NATO is a pointless batten waged and strengthens are enemies

WHO is vital to world medial health. Leaving hurts the US. What we gave is pennies to the benefits.
 
This is relevant to the discussion. There are some more facts and figures coming out the past few days about children and Coronavirus.

303 children hospitalized in Florida as of July 24th. 5th death just occurred too.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/health/florida-covid-children-hospitalizations/index.html

Only 8% of Americans want schools to open without restrictions

https://www.newsweek.com/only-8-ame...hout-restrictions-person-classes-poll-1520074
Still nowhere near as bad on children at this point as the Flu. Might as well shut down school every Flu season now. F the kids educations.
 
Huh? Well, the 8% is in the actual title of the article. My post stated that 8% want schools opened without restrictions. Is there something disingenuous about that?
Write a letter to Newsweek or something.
There is a case being made by some politicians and some posters on here that schools need to return as normal.
I want my kids to go back to school just as much as the next person but only when it's safe.
It is safe. You're just being scared by the media. Have a listen to what this Dr has to say about it and what the DATA says.

 
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Posting random YouTube videos is never a wise decision when trying to make a point, FYI.
I expected nothing less from you.

How is posting a video with a medical expert talking on a subject ANY different than reading what a medical expert says in a news article?

Random video... you crack me up.
 
I expected nothing less from you.

How is posting a video with a medical expert talking on a subject ANY different than reading what a medical expert says in a news article?

Random video... you crack me up.


You posted a YouTube video of Glenn Beck (disqualifying on its own) getting opinions from some neuroradiologist? Wtf does a neuro radiologist have to do with infectious diseases? Maybe today he’ll invite a proctologist along for some opinions.
 
Posting random YouTube videos is never a wise decision when trying to make a point, FYI.
Right wing propaganda has successfully destroyed the minds of their base. Almost all of them have absolutely no understanding of what credible information is. If it aligns with what they want to believe, that's all that matters.
 
Right wing propaganda has successfully destroyed the minds of their base. Almost all of them have absolutely no understanding of what credible information is. If it aligns with what they want to believe, that's all that matters.
Yes, right wing propaganda.... There is no left wing propaganda in the media amirite?
 
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You posted a YouTube video of Glenn Beck (disqualifying on its own) getting opinions from some neuroradiologist? Wtf does a neuro radiologist have to do with infectious diseases? Maybe today he’ll invite a proctologist along for some opinions.
Beck is just asking questions. But don't let your hatred for someone prevent you from dismissing them based on name alone. That isn't intellectually dishonest at all.

So a Dr that isn't an infectious disease Dr has no say whatsoever and is incapable of reading and interpreting basic data. Got it.
 
Beck is just asking questions. But don't let your hatred for someone prevent you from dismissing them based on name alone. That isn't intellectually dishonest at all.

So a Dr that isn't an infectious disease Dr has no say whatsoever and is incapable of reading and interpreting basic data. Got it.

I can’t believe i have to even say this out loud. Who am I kidding, look who I’m responding to.

But wouldn’t it kind of make a bit more sense to have a doctor that specializes in infectious disease and respiratory issues on to discuss this? Even if Glenn Beck was trying to be serious (yeah right), it’s like asking an optometrist to come on the show and espouse about this. It’s absurd.
 
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I can’t believe i have to even say this out loud. Who am I kidding, look who I’m responding to.

But wouldn’t it kind of make a bit more sense to have a doctor that specializes in infectious disease and respiratory issues on to discuss this? Even if Glenn Beck was trying to be serious (yeah right), it’s like asking an optometrist to come on the show and espouse about this. It’s absurd.
Sorry to blow up your ill conceived argument, but even an optometrist is capable of looking at an interpreting basic data. It's not rocket science. There was nothing that Dr Scott said and interpreted that required the expertise of an infectious disease specialist.
 
Let's start with Mein Kumpf, where was it written? Why was it written in that location?
How about Kristallnacht? Trumpers or Liberal Protestors?
How about the Reichstag?
What party is trying to destroy the rule of law and burn down our existing democracy?
Not Trumpers.
Who controlled the SS?
Who controlled the FBI and sent them, illegally into Trumps election campaign?
Who controls the media?

Your comparison of Trump to Hitler is ridiculous.
You are clueless.
 
Right wing propaganda has successfully destroyed the minds of their base. Almost all of them have absolutely no understanding of what credible information is. If it aligns with what they want to believe, that's all that matters.

Getting back to the task on hand.

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Sorry to blow up your ill conceived argument, but even an optometrist is capable of looking at an interpreting basic data. It's not rocket science. There was nothing that Dr Scott said and interpreted that required the expertise of an infectious disease specialist.

I’m not saying they can’t interpret it. But pulling someone who doesn’t specialize in infectious disease onto a nationally syndicated show and spouting off like they “are” an expert is pretty counterproductive if you ask me. Then again, it’s Glenn Beck, so it’s not surprising.
 
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I’m not saying they can’t interpret it. But pulling someone who doesn’t specialize in infectious disease onto a nationally syndicated show and spouting off like they “are” an expert is pretty counterproductive if you ask me. Then again, it’s Glenn Beck, so it’s not surprising.
So you're saying they can interpret it, then go on again to basically say they can't interpret it. Dizzy yet?
 
So you're saying they can interpret it, then go on again to basically say they can't interpret it. Dizzy yet?

No. I’m saying that pulling in someone who doesn’t specialize in infectious diseases doesn’t help make a point. Why is this so difficult for you?
 
Not even CLOSE ! - THIS is story line of the year ! !


This ad is ridiculous considering that it's individual states that determine how to govern on Covid. Not the president. Shit, even Biden said that it's illegal to have federal mandates. Never let a good crisis go to waist though.
 
This ad is ridiculous considering that it's individual states that determine how to govern on Covid. Not the president. Shit, even Biden said that it's illegal to have federal mandates. Never let a good crisis go to waist though.

Please provide a link to where Biden says this. Also, umm, hate to break the obvious to you, but the reason we are in the mess we are in is because there has been no coordinated national response. You’re such a mess.
 
This ad is ridiculous considering that it's individual states that determine how to govern on Covid. Not the president. Shit, even Biden said that it's illegal to have federal mandates. Never let a good crisis go to waist though.
Lol. You mean like when the president says states must open their schools or he'll cut off their funding?

You don't even know what a federal mandate is.

How many states are going to object to help from the federal government in the fight against Covid?

Trump is the one that said it was up to the states to govern on Covid. It's not a law, it was HIS decision. You don't get to use that as an excuse.

We're talking about a coordinated federal response to a national pandemic........that affects the health, job, and economic conditions of every citizen in every state.
 
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Lol. You mean like when the president says states must open their schools or he'll cut off their funding?

You don't even know what a federal mandate is.

How many states are going to object to help from the federal government in the fight against Covid?

Trump is the one that said it was up to the states to govern on Covid. It's not a law, it was HIS decision. You don't get to use that as an excuse.

We're talking about a coordinated federal response to a national pandemic........that affects the health, job, and economic conditions of every citizen in every state.

Bob, don't you remember? Our president isn't responsible for anything! The buck stops with....whoever he can blame today. I've never worked with or seen such a great "leader" in my life.
 
Please provide a link to where Biden says this. Also, umm, hate to break the obvious to you, but the reason we are in the mess we are in is because there has been no coordinated national response. You’re such a mess.
I'd hate to have to post an obscure video for you, but since you asked.

The statement you're looking for is at the 13:15 time mark but for full context I started you at the 11:26 mark.

 
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Lol. You mean like when the president says states must open their schools or he'll cut off their funding?

You don't even know what a federal mandate is.

How many states are going to object to help from the federal government in the fight against Covid?

Trump is the one that said it was up to the states to govern on Covid. It's not a law, it was HIS decision. You don't get to use that as an excuse.

We're talking about a coordinated federal response to a national pandemic........that affects the health, job, and economic conditions of every citizen in every state.
Cutting funding isn't a federal mandate. It's leverage to get them to do what they want.

I don't know where you're going with the states getting help from federal government stuff. Trump has offered help to any state that asks for it. I recall Governor Cuomo praising Trump for what he did for them.

Yes, I know what you're talking about, but unfortunately, that's not how things are being done. Trump left it up to the states, which is in reality how our system of government is supposed to be run. Like it or not.
 
I'd hate to have to post an obscure video for you, but since you asked.

The statement you're looking for is at the 13:15 time mark but for full context I started you at the 11:26 mark.


Do you have a legitimate source? This is just a video that essentially just makes fun of him. Certainly you can do better than this.
 
Do you have a legitimate source? This is just a video that essentially just makes fun of him. Certainly you can do better than this.
I knew you wouldn't watch it. You don't have to watch much, just till about the 13:30 mark. Hell, just click until you see the reporter asking Biden a question. I'm sure you can work that so you get as little of the commentor as possible. Unfortunately, trying to find a "reputable" source that would appease you, they all cut out the part with Biden being.... well Biden.
 
I knew you wouldn't watch it. You don't have to watch much, just till about the 13:30 mark. Hell, just click until you see the reporter asking Biden a question. I'm sure you can work that so you get as little of the commentor as possible. Unfortunately, trying to find a "reputable" source that would appease you, they all cut out the part with Biden being.... well Biden.

I’m not wasting my time on some yahoo video. If you can’t find a “reputable” source, that should be a sign to you.
 
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I’m not wasting my time on some yahoo video. If you can’t find a “reputable” source, that should be a sign to you.
Yes, the sign is that the left media is covering for Biden. Like I said, you can't find the full video from a "reputable" source as you put it because they cut out the stuff they don't want you to hear. If you want the truth, you're going to have to get your hands dirty. But I guess you don't really care about the truth.
 
Yes, the sign is that the left media is covering for Biden. Like I said, you can't find the full video from a "reputable" source as you put it because they cut out the stuff they don't want you to hear. If you want the truth, you're going to have to get your hands dirty. But I guess you don't really care about the truth.

Whatever you say, hoss.
 
Cutting funding isn't a federal mandate. It's leverage to get them to do what they want.

I don't know where you're going with the states getting help from federal government stuff. Trump has offered help to any state that asks for it. I recall Governor Cuomo praising Trump for what he did for them.

Yes, I know what you're talking about, but unfortunately, that's not how things are being done. Trump left it up to the states, which is in reality how our system of government is supposed to be run. Like it or not.
Lol. No shit. Cutting funding is not a mandate. Telling the states to open the schools regardless IS like a MANDATE.......and would be if Trump had the power he thinks he does.

I'm not going to try and explain to you the need for a national plan and CONSISTENT message from trump. You don't get it because you don't want to get it. The results speak for themselves. Blame the governors or China or whoever you want......anybody but the most powerful man in the world, the man who's number one job is to protect the citizens of this country. He said it, he takes no responsibility. 6 months in and we STILL can't get consistent testing in a timely manner. Whatever, enjoy the echo chamber for a few more months.
 
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Lol. No shit. Cutting funding is not a mandate. Telling the states to open the schools regardless IS like a MANDATE.......and would be if Trump had the power he thinks he does.

I'm not going to try and explain to you the need for a national plan and CONSISTENT message from trump. You don't get it because you don't want to get it. The results speak for themselves. Blame the governors or China or whoever you want......anybody but the most powerful man in the world, the man who's number one job is to protect the citizens of this country. He said it, he takes no responsibility. 6 months in and we STILL can't get consistent testing in a timely manner. Whatever, enjoy the echo chamber for a few more months.
LOL, yeah I'm the one that isn't consistent. Got it.
 
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