What hole have I dug? Go with god dude, I accept your premise is factual to YOU, that is, you're not a Trump supporter, but you can't find much wrong with him. Cool, roll with it, but what is there to debate with you?
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lol. No comment on your independent status.
But you are once again are pushing facts not in evidence.
The Aussie didn't donate 25 million to the Clinton Foundation. He did help arrange a donation of that amount from Australia to the foundation for Aids patients. Of course that has to be phony because .......well, Hillary. And this was a story 2-1/2 years ago.
Steele was former MI6 and he did have bias against Trump.....because he is a Russian expert and his extensive research with his Russian contacts was the basis for the dossier. He felt Trump was a dangerous man. Why else would he be biased against him?
The FISA warrants are still being investigated, there have been no conclusions except by Trumpers....lol....like you. And you are aware of the process, the various judges involved?
The hard drive is thought to be in Ukraine? That some Q stuff there. Why don't we just go get it? Maybe Trump should have traded the aid package for that instead of dirt on Biden.
Mueller said all those things were not in his scope? Have not seen that.
It's become abundantly clear you're pissed off that Mueller didn't investigate what you thought he should have.......and like Trump, you're looking for some payback. Mueller did have a scope of work and he stuck to it.......sometimes leading to frustration of our side as well. But your tired argument that we only want investigations into Trump seems to miss the point that you actually have to have some facts to initiate an investigation. "The hard drive is thought to be in Ukraine" doesn't cut it.
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See BuilderBob's 11:43 rebuttal to this post of yours. On the money - and he beat me to the punch with a better one, anyway.
I'm a registered independent, as well.
And would rather be called an anarchist than a Trumper, although Lefty is tolerable.
Ok, not an issue the Aussie that setup the donation to Clinton Foundation somehow is same person that found Page. OK. LOL, no setup there whatsoever, they just happened to run into each other.
Steele was former MI6 and he did have bias against Trump.....because he is a Russian expert and his extensive research with his Russian contacts was the basis for the dossier. He felt Trump was a dangerous man. Why else would he be biased against him?
My guess is he knew who was paying him. Intel analysts, by nature, are supposed to be without bias. It is a basic qualification, in regards to filling a certain role. Have not hired or reassigned many due to this issue.
Mueller said all those things were not in his scope? Have not seen that.
Listen to his testimony, read his report. Many things were not touched. If he was hired to just look at A and B, I get it. It does not mean other topics are irrelevant. Like I said, look at whole thing.
It's become abundantly clear you're pissed off that Mueller didn't investigate what you thought he should have.......and like Trump, you're looking for some payback. Mueller did have a scope of work and he stuck to it.......sometimes to frustration of our side as well. But your tired argument that we only want investigations into Trump seems to miss the point that you actually have to have some facts to initiate an investigation. "The hard drive is thought to be in Ukraine" doesn't cut it.
Not pissed off at all. Nothing in my tone even suggested that. I do find the hypocrisy and partial investigations laughable. Two weeks ago on here it is Trump should use DOJ/SD, and not Rudy G. I agree, but now it is he is weaponizing the DoJ. Like I said from beginning, if one really wanted to get to bottom of election interference, one should have no issue with these other topics getting looked into.
Facts? Is Biden not on tape talking himself up about the Ukraine deal? Did he or did he not meet with leader of China and then his son start investment banking there? Did Fusion GPS lawyers meet with Russians the day before and after they met with Trump's team? Are the people in Europe that were in contact with Trump's team US intel assets or not, and why were they pressing for info about him? There are known facts about FISA warrants, which lead to more questions. There are more facts, and more questions, those are just some of them.
Also, the same people are not remotely offended by Ivanka's company getting patents around the world while her dad is in office, or Trump's company working on deals across the globe.
Fox News: "When Donald Trump became president, his sons stopped doing international business deals. When Joe Biden became vice president, his son started doing international business deals."
Eric Trump last week: "Congratulations to our extraordinary @TrumpScotlandteam! Minutes ago, we received full & total approval for a new phase of development to include 500 homes, 50 cottages, sports center, retail & more. We also received approval to build a 2nd golf course! Very proud of them!"
It seems that my skepticism as to the accuracy of the suggestion that firsthand information has previously been required to file an IC Whistleblower Complaint was well placed. It has been confirmed that neither the Statute nor ICIG policy has required such.
The Inspector General released a public statement, which may be downloaded HERE, clarifying the issue related to the form.
A CNN article includes this reference to the IG statement -
In a statement issued late Monday afternoon, the inspector general of the intelligence community (ICIG) said that the form submitted by the whistleblower on August 12, 2019, was the same one the ICIG has had in place since May 24, 2018. The statement reiterated the fact that having firsthand knowledge of the event has never been required in order to submit a whistleblower complaint. "Although the form requests information about whether the Complainant possesses first-hand knowledge about the matter about which he or she is lodging the complaint, there is no such requirement set forth in the statute."
"In fact," the ICIG's statement continues, "by law the Complainant...need not possess first-hand information in order to file a complaint or information with respect to an urgent concern. The ICIG cannot add conditions to the filing of an urgent concern that do not exist in law."
EDIT - WaPo Fact Checker says 4 Pinocchios
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Trump has no influence over the patent office. Maybe she's good enough on her own...after all, she is a very bright woman.
No! Trump bad! Ivanka, Donald Jr., and Eric Trump are all the spawn of Satan himself!
You know what i really love? I think it’s great that Trump peddles made in America yet all of his shit and his kids shit is made in China. And then his dumb base falls for it and calls them ‘very bright’. Woo doggie. I wouldn’t say they’re bright as much as you and the rest of his fans just.....aren’t.
They were Chinese patents/ trade marks weren't they? Awarded in the midst of the Xio is wonderful part of negotiations, as I recall.
No influence over the patent office ??
It's part of the United States Dept. of Commerce
Headed up, of course, by the Secretary of Commerce - Wilbur Ross
Has Trump ever met Wilbur ??.............Oh, wait......
Now, ALSO part of the Dept. of Commerce is the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration....
You know, the NOAA
Where have we seen the NOAA mentioned, recently ???
OH YEAH !!!! Alabama...hurricane Dorian.....sharpie......
And, of course, the Donald Trump connection to the complete circle jerk that he singlehandidly racked up.....
So, Twin, tell us again how Trump would " have no influence " over a patent matter...
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True but what is your point.
Biden was not a presidential candidate until after the House was controlled by Democrats.
You just proved my point.
I never said she got them illegally or with influence. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of people saying (with no proof) that this Democrat got things because of this person in office. The Trumps are doing the exact same thing...and rich people all over the world do this all the time!
Hahaha what a joke. You got this spin from MSNBC. msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-s-children-scrutinized-as-joe-biden-s-son-hunter-targeted-70706757562
So obvious.
So you think only wealthy and influential Democrats kids are ever helped along because of their parents? Never happens to Republicans? Uh ok.
1) Ibodel's post was " a joke" ?? How so ? EXACTLY how so ??
2)" so " obvious " ? WHAT'S "so obvious"
Indulge us.
Right? Donald TRUMP Jr, Eric TRUMP and Ivanka TRUMP didn’t get to be the grifters they are without daddy’s help. That’s for damn sure.
