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Also impressive that we are the cheapest school by $5000 in the top 50 for tuition.
That puts this list into question for me. If UNC is top 5 I think I could start my own University out of my home and be top 10.UNC is in the top 5. Oh my god that is hilarious
Mitch has stated statistics on a fairly dramatic drop in average student debt for our graduates over that time frame. I don’t have the specific data in front of me but that’s at least one measure Purdue has become more affordable as well.I'd be curious what the "real" tuition average per student is with scholarships, non-loan financial aid, etc. i.e. is freezing tuition negatively impacting Purdue's ability to offer more financial aid. We know that Purdue's made a concerted effort to get more out-of-state/international students which obviously equals more $. But simply freezing tuition doesn't necessarily make college more affordable overall. Financial aid achieves that. I haven't seen much put out about it - not sure if there's a resource to see true cost of attendance?
It must be the UNC African Studies program that elevated the school. No doubt the one paragraph term papers filled with grammatical and spelling mistakes are top 5 material. What a f%#&ing joke.That puts this list into question for me. If UNC is top 5 I think I could start my own University out of my home and be top 10.
This just in: NCAA rules M$U squeeky clean on sex front.It must be the UNC African Studies program that elevated the school. No doubt the one paragraph term papers filled with grammatical and spelling mistakes are top 5 material. What a f%#&ing joke.
Having a son at Purdue, for the great education and controlled costs I can only say, "Thanks Mitch!"Also impressive that we are the cheapest school by $5000 in the top 50 for tuition.
Mitch has stated statistics on a fairly dramatic drop in average student debt for our graduates over that time frame. I don’t have the specific data in front of me but that’s at least one measure Purdue has become more affordable as well.
Very interesting. Thank you for researching that.Purdue's data digest (which has lots of interesting numbers - I forgot about it) has financial aid numbers that I found - the dollars awarded to undergraduates from Purdue has only gone up $14 million since 2012-13. Federal undergraduate financial aid has gone down from $179 million to $136 million in that same span. So overall, financial aid dollars have gone down $29 million since 2012-13.
Interestingly, Purdue's yield rate has actually gone down. I'm guessing this has to do with admitting more out-of-state students who don't end up coming, as this population has grown (likely to cover the frozen tuition). Purdue's acceptance rate has actually gotten higher over the last several years.
Very interesting. Thank you for researching that.
Purdue's data digest (which has lots of interesting numbers - I forgot about it) has financial aid numbers that I found - the dollars awarded to undergraduates from Purdue has only gone up $14 million since 2012-13. Federal undergraduate financial aid has gone down from $179 million to $136 million in that same span. So overall, financial aid dollars have gone down $29 million since 2012-13.
I think you missed the point of the thread. However I don’t find that surprising.Since this IS a basketball board.......
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/picking-every-state’s-most-popular-sports-team/ss-BBMCOIn?ocid=ientp
Nice result in "bang for the buck" education though....
McHoop
Why include the word "only?" If the aid has gone up at all while tuition has been frozen, it seems to answer your question in the negative-- freezing tuition has not negatively impacted the amount of financial aid Purdue has been able to provide.
Isn't the Federal aid (1) out of Purdue's control, and (2) similar across all universities? So in that sense, I don't see how it's relevant at all.
Lastly, I don't see why we should consider financial aid at all. It seems to me the end goal is to actually make education cheaper, not just to subsidize it.
I think you missed the point of the thread. However I don’t find that surprising.
I'd like to see Purdue compete with the Michigans, Cals, etc. of the world for these out of state students. Not just trying to get more out of state students so they can cover the cost of keeping tuition frozen. That's what exactly what you're complaining about - subsidizing it.
I'd like to see Purdue compete with the Michigans, Cals, etc. of the world for these out of state students. Not just trying to get more out of state students so they can cover the cost of keeping tuition frozen. That's what exactly what you're complaining about - subsidizing it.
I'm not complaining about anything.
I'm simply stating that it is more important that universities including Purdue address the cause of the high costs per student, rather than simply masking the problem with subsidies (including out of state student dollars as you said).
I don't think that's oversimplifying it. We can reasonably discuss measures that would ease the burden on particular students through things like financial aid. But if the cost per student isn't coming down, we are never going to solve the real problem.
This is a great resource - it really feeds my nerdy side. Some notes:
- Is anyone else surprised that there are nearly twice as many students from Tippecanoe County than Marion? Marion has 5x the population.
- It doesn't seem like yield rate is a proper metric for "selectivity". Sure it shows how many of the top interested students you get, but that's not the same as being selective. Purdue could purposely not accept someone who is destined for MIT, and improve their yield rate. The college of Engineering has a yield rate of 26%. Liberal Arts has a yield rate of 28%. Does that mean that LA is a more selective/better school than Engineering? I don't know what it's a measure of.
- The fact that the average ACT score is 31 for the college of engineering seems especially impressive.
- On the budgets graph, it shows "total expenditures" at $1.2 B, and "total revenue" at $2B. Does this mean that Purdue had a surplus of $800M? That seems like an awful lot for one year, especially considering income from endowment was only $110M. Entire endowment shows $2.4B. So they just increased that by 33% in one year?
- I thought the "peer group" was not just the B10 conference... I thought for sure it included schools like Cal, Georgia Tech, etc.
With my daughter being a freshman at Purdue this fall I've had this conversation with many parents of kids who graduated high school this year. My daughter received a full tuition ship from IUPUI and she received 32k from IU. She received nothing from Purdue. Every single other parent I've spoken to has a similar story of receiving money from every other college they applied to...but Purdue. We all just assumed that Purdue had tightened up the purse strings on the scholarship budget since they were not increasing tuition.
I am surprised! Shocked actually. I just can't believe you l quote a woman's waist size in metric.Ironic, Purdue's females also have an average waist size of 43 (when they are freshman). After that, it goes off the scale!!!