Why not Spencer Evans all the time?

[Bob the Boiler]

They keep saying he is a "kick-off" specialist and our "long range" FG kicker. Dellinger continues to miss field goals and extra points. I am not a kicker, but if you can hit from 40-50 yards, I would think extra points and shorter field goals would be easier. It seems to me that he is our better option. I am tired of missing FG's. It is hard enough when you get to the red zone and cannot get a TD, but then you follow it with a missed FG from short yardage. That is a momentum killer.

 

[old 23]

Do you suppose Bob, that the coach's might know some things about the kickers abilities that you don't.

 

[eugenevdebs]

*Do you suppose, Bob, that the coaches might know some things about the kicker's abilities that you don't?

 

[FirstDownB]

Do you suppose Bob, that the coach's might know some things about the kickers abilities that you don't.

I'm curious what a logical explanation would even be..
You trot out Evans for the first FG, a 36 yarder. He nails it down the middle with plenty of leg to spare.. which makes sense because he has the stronger leg. Then, after this display of accuracy by Evans, they trot out JD for the next FG, which was 6 yards longer. I don't know if I've EVER seen a kicker pulled after making a kick, unless it is for a long distance kick and the regular kicker doesn't have the leg for it.

 

[02Boilermaker]

Brohm has simply rotated kickers every single FG attempt with no regard for the distance. Neither kicker has attempted 2 FGAs in a row this season. Here's the FGA rotation for each game so far:

UoL: JD (blocked)
Ohio: SE, JD, SE
Mizzou: JD (miss), SE (miss)
Michigan: JD
Minnesota: SE (miss), JD
Wisconsin: SE, JD (miss), SE, JD

Extra points have followed the same every other pattern except for Evans getting the first 2 against Ohio for some reason. JD is perfect on extras while Evans has missed one.

I don't remember ever seeing a kicker rotation like this, but I have to believe it is a result of neither kicker being able to separate himself from the other at any distance.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Brohm has simply rotated kickers every single FG attempt with no regard for the distance. Neither kicker has attempted 2 FGAs in a row this season. Here's the FGA rotation for each game so far:

UoL: JD (blocked)
Ohio: SE, JD, SE
Mizzou: JD (miss), SE (miss)
Michigan: JD
Minnesota: SE (miss), JD
Wisconsin: SE, JD (miss), SE, JD

Extra points have followed the same every other pattern except for Evans getting the first 2 against Ohio for some reason. JD is perfect on extras while Evans has missed one.

I don't remember ever seeing a kicker rotation like this, but I have to believe it is a result of neither kicker being able to separate himself from the other at any distance.

I'm giving a pass this season but I don't want to see position roulette in future seasons.

 

[Purdue0034]

Wow, I didn't realize that it was simply back and forth like that between the two. That is even more odd. I would like it better if they based it on angle and distance, etc. Nonetheless, even though our FG kicking hasn't been the best - it does seem quite a bit better than last year.

 

[jberry5]

They keep saying he is a "kick-off" specialist and our "long range" FG kicker. Dellinger continues to miss field goals and extra points. I am not a kicker, but if you can hit from 40-50 yards, I would think extra points and shorter field goals would be easier. It seems to me that he is our better option. I am tired of missing FG's. It is hard enough when you get to the red zone and cannot get a TD, but then you follow it with a missed FG from short yardage. That is a momentum killer.

I assume it is like my golf game. My driver, hybrids and long irons are my strengths. Wedges, not so much.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Wow, I didn't realize that it was simply back and forth like that between the two. That is even more odd. I would like it better if they based it on angle and distance, etc. Nonetheless, even though our FG kicking hasn't been the best - it does seem quite a bit better than last year.

When doing the statistical breakdown during fall camp and in to the fall...both kickers literally scored the same and missed literally the exact same kicks. It was statistically moot to choose one over the other and I think Brohm wanted to show fairness in his first year...and also I thought he would see true separation from the two just like he believed would occur with the quarterbacks.

 

[nat100]

When doing the statistical breakdown during fall camp and in to the fall...both kickers literally scored the same and missed literally the exact same kicks. It was statistically mute to choose one over the other and I think Brohm wanted to show fairness in his first year...and also I thought he would see true separation from the two just like he believed would occur with the quarterbacks.

moot

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

moot

 

[nat100]

Both?

 

[FirstDownB]

Well, GBI asked Levine why rotating kickers. His answer was fairness and lack of separation. I do wish there was a follow-up question such as "How do you define separation?" or "Does in game performance play into the decision of who gets the next FG attempt?", but he probably wouldn't have taken the bait. Seems like the staff plays things like this close to the vest, sort of like the rotating QB situation.
I do respect the concept of fairness, but what about riding the hot hand (or foot)? To me, replacing a kicker after he makes a FG is like pulling a pitcher after a 1-2-3 inning. At least with pitchers it is usually a statistical play based on match-ups or because they are getting tired. I guess we'll just need to accept that there are factors going on behind the scene that make automatically rotating kickers in game the preferred approach here. Maybe both were promised the chance to kick as long as they make x% of FG attempts in practice. Maybe that is what's motivating them to get better.

 

[ossim]

Remember, Evans couldn't hold the full time job as kicker for Baylor because of his accuracy issues. I'm guessing he hasn't done anything in practice to assuage those concerns with the staff..

 

[BigTimeAt69]

Remember, Evans couldn't hold the full time job as kicker for Baylor because of his accuracy issues. I'm guessing he hasn't done anything in practice to assuage those concerns with the staff..

Evans actually wasn't even giving a chance at Baylor for some reason. Like literally his only duty was kicking off

 

[boilerbusdriver]

For what it’s worth the ball rockets, explodes, launches off the leg of Spencer, with him being a few years older and his body matured more. Of course that doesn’t mean squat if you can’t make the kicks, if they are equal I would go with Spencer IMHO.

 

[Wolegib]

I'm kind of surprised with Spencer's leg that we haven't tried any 50 yard FGs. that's supposedly his strength.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I'm kind of surprised with Spencer's leg that we haven't tried any 50 yard FGs. that's supposedly his strength.

At that length, I think Brohm is aggressive in that he wants to go for it when it is inside of 4th and 4.