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LOL! I'm not the one who brought up where he was ranked as a sophomore. As I clearly stated that's meaningless. How you finish is what counts.
And where will Tillman be ranked in the end? Silly to even bring up where he was ranked in the first place, which you did. Reminds me of when the peegies came over to talk about what a superior player Ron Patterson was to Rapheal Davis because of the ratings at that moment. Silly.
 
And where will Tillman be ranked in the end? Silly to even bring up where he was ranked in the first place, which you did. Reminds me of when the peegies came over to talk about what a superior player Ron Patterson was to Rapheal Davis because of the ratings at that moment. Silly.
Is Tillman a sophomore? Doubt he'll drop to an unranked 3 star.He's a senior.
 
Is Tillman a sophomore? Doubt he'll drop to an unranked 3 star.He's a senior.
Patterson and Davis were both seniors when people were deciding who was better based on rankings.

No Boiler fan was disappointed when Carroll committed as a Top 50 player in his class as a sophomore. Acting like you are some sort of all-seeing guru and running him down with your hindsight is puzzling.
 
These off topic tangents of dumb ass arguments that don't matter at all are so annoying. Do you not have better things to do? Commenters like you guys ruin what should be a fun way to talk about Purdue basketball
 
Patterson and Davis were both seniors when people were deciding who was better based on rankings.

No Boiler fan was disappointed when Carroll committed as a Top 50 player in his class as a sophomore. Acting like you are some sort of all-seeing guru and running him down with your hindsight is puzzling.
Why do you keep referring to sophomore year? I've made it clear I don't put as much stock into it compared to juniors/seniors. I have no idea but I would doubt Carroll was ranked as highly as Tillman at the same point in time right now. And the list of offers they received isn't even comparable.
 
Why do you keep referring to sophomore year? I've made it clear I don't put as much stock into it compared to juniors/seniors. I have no idea but I would doubt Carroll was ranked as highly as Tillman at the same point in time right now. And the list of offers they received isn't even comparable.
Sophomore year was when he was offered and when he accepted a scholarship to play for Purdue. Based on the rating services, he was a good pick-up. No one knew at that time how he would turn out. No one knows how good Tillman will be. I don't put as much stock in ratings as some do -- even for juniors and seniors. There is a lot of group-think in these ratings. When you see a guy rise or fall 50 spots, does it mean he suddenly got that much better or that much worse than his peers? No. It's because the people evaluating him hadn't actually seen him play.

And you can't use number of offers as criteria without mentioning sophomore year. Again, sophomore year is when Carroll gave a firm commitment to play for Purdue. Do you really think that a player who commits as a sophomore will then get as many offers as a player who waits until his senior year? The number and quality of schools that were involved with Carroll was similar to those involved with Tillman.
 
Sophomore year was when he was offered and when he accepted a scholarship to play for Purdue. Based on the rating services, he was a good pick-up. No one knew at that time how he would turn out. No one knows how good Tillman will be. I don't put as much stock in ratings as some do -- even for juniors and seniors. There is a lot of group-think in these ratings. When you see a guy rise or fall 50 spots, does it mean he suddenly got that much better or that much worse than his peers? No. It's because the people evaluating him hadn't actually seen him play.

And you can't use number of offers as criteria without mentioning sophomore year. Again, sophomore year is when Carroll gave a firm commitment to play for Purdue. Do you really think that a player who commits as a sophomore will then get as many offers as a player who waits until his senior year? The number and quality of schools that were involved with Carroll was similar to those involved with Tillman.
Tillman is more than a year along in his development than Carroll, his offers are better as well. Doesn't matter if Carroll waited til his senior year as his stock was quickly dropping. I think it's safe to say Tillman is a solid prospect. I'm not saying on paper Carroll wasn't, but by senior years Carroll was not the commodity that Tillman is.
 
How so? By his senior year he was an unranked 3 star.

Seems more like a lesson in projecting physical growth in freshman

So... All I said was that you can't always trust the Ranking/Rating services. TC was a top recruit when we signed him, and many of us on this board thought it was a good get.

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I think they can get Malik Williams. I think they have a decent chance at getting Xavier Tillman or Kyle Young. With Jaren Jackson, Jr. and Nojel Eastern, they will have to really battle to sign them.
 
I think they can get Malik Williams. I think they have a decent chance at getting Xavier Tillman or Kyle Young. With Jaren Jackson, Jr. and Nojel Eastern, they will have to really battle to sign them.
Can u imagine a front line of Tillman, Williams and Jackson
 
So... All I said was that you can't always trust the Ranking/Rating services. TC was a top recruit when we signed him, and many of us on this board thought it was a good get.

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Whenever a recruit signs people jump for joy. Even when it was for someone with the offer sheet of a Weatherford. Painter has shown he can miss big time on recruits and his development of 'projects' leaves a lot to be desired and often leads to a transfer.
 
Whenever a recruit signs people jump for joy. Even when it was for someone with the offer sheet of a Weatherford. Painter has shown he can miss big time on recruits and his development of 'projects' leaves a lot to be desired and often leads to a transfer.

Every program misses big time on recruits, resulting in transfers.
 
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Whenever a recruit signs people jump for joy. Even when it was for someone with the offer sheet of a Weatherford. Painter has shown he can miss big time on recruits and his development of 'projects' leaves a lot to be desired and often leads to a transfer.

I don't remember people being excited about Weatherford. I remember people saying "who"?
 
Oh...he was surely hailed as the next Kramer. I promise you.
Don't confuse people's hopes with their beliefs. No one hailed him as the next Kramer. They may have drawn obvious parallels between the two, but you are making a leap in logic.
 
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