Yeah....you don't. Everyone has a "source" except almost nobody really does.
I was talking the next to last year for zeller or maybe the year before he arrived...can't recall. It was the year before they were really goodI agree with most (maybe all) of your on-court take. And the reason IU was better (but not great) defensively two years ago was because they had many more defenders who could be put "on an island"; Yogi primarily, OG, and no Blackmon.
FWIW; Schilling is far and away the primary recruiter in New Albany and Ft Wayne, but Ostrom is probably the most recruiting-centric assistant. Ostrom was the lead recruiting assistant for Billy D's UF champion teams.
Oh, and: I post on another IU board under a completely different name. This is the only rivals name I've used, I've never posted on Peegs, and I'm not named Jim!
stats in basketball can sometimes be misleading. I don't know the particular stats...and against what teams they represent...I just know the year before they were really good, the D really improved from the previous year. They were still very uptempo...but there was significant improvement that year and I'm one that doesn't think Crean overall valued D.
I'm with you on the Purdue part of the post but I'm not sure IU is gonna stay as stupid as they were with Crean. I was thinking from seeing Dayton that they were pretty good defensively. Am I off base?
Not going to touch that "stupid thing" (way to much to discuss there), but will say I'm sure they will play smarter and that pretty much guarantees they will play better defense.
"Stupid" was my way of being lazy. Didn't want to dive into all the ways Crean did it
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Understand. In support of your point. He will have little option but to play his new guys so he must live with their defensive growing pains. It's nice as a coach to be able to tell them that their playing time is dependent upon them embracing defense.
my stupid allowed more tangential things outside just the basketball there"Stupid" was my way of being lazy. Didn't want to dive into all the ways Crean did it
Painter and coaches need to be selling that point hard. I didn't know they led the BIG in scoring. We used to be plodding but no more. Sell the hell out of it!
Very true. If people really have a "source" they won't post about it here ...
..and so the question is...what do you want to do when you get down the court? Do you want a track meet or a basektball game, because they are different. Purdue doesn't just want to run down the court and throw the ball in the stands, but to do something with it when you get down there. Track meet or basketball...what sport do you want? Not aimed at you, just stating the difference of running and running with a purpose...
A) I never stated I preferred the up tempo offense. I said TJD prefers that offense.
snake oil...some will believe and others may not. Need more Rosies in the game ...
Well, first I said this wasn't aimed at you or any of your comments...just the way I would sell it. Now, if you have the thoroughbreds...you can run them and if he is the player they want ...they can sell that. IU on the other hand under crean was more uptempo than any of those teams you mentioned and it was a track meet with them, instead of basektball.
Now every team under the sun wants to steal baskets. They push it looking to score every advantage they have, but usually when two good teams meet it is the half court offense, not the helter skelter style that wins. Still, the clock has forced more up tempo and so a logical question would be that if 7-8 seconds are getting the ball up the court and in position to actually do something with it and you intend to shoot the ball with at least 8-9 seconds on the clock more often than not somewhere between that 13 and 15 second window must determine an uptempo team and one that isn't. That isn't much difference per possession, especially if you are a big that must receive the ball instead of already having it in your hands, meaning you must receive a pass. You are much better having more time on your side of an already reduced window that forces all teams to play more uptempo...so that fans that like baskets get to see them. Again, I wasn't trying to reply to anything you said...but what I would address.
For the youngsters...the 60's was uptempo
Data for Dayton and their competition and Purdue and their competition. IU selling snake oil...and again what does the big guy want to do after he runs the court?
Data for Dayton and their competition and Purdue and their competition. IU selling snake oil...and again what does the big guy want to do after he runs the court?
May want to recheck the fake numbers. Dayton avg for past 3 yrs: 2014-15 was 66; 2015-16 was 73 and 2016-17 was 77.
True, but you realize those stats were against Dayton competition. If he gets a lot more talent than Matt they can win, but if talent is close Purdue wins...unless we keep seeing one meeting at assy hall
I believe I saw something about Purdue vs IU being protected home and home moving forward. I also believe you correct about the in game coaching edge going to Painter, however based on current trends it appears IU will have more talent. That's where my frustration with CMP comes from. He is a great in game coach, but that will only get Purdue so far, because he is also a below average recruiter. I'm sure there will be some on here that rip me for saying that, but it is what it is.
Stating that it isn't true is also your opinion. However, the facts don't back up your opinion.
No I have a more realistic outlook than you because I look at how those players turn out. You know, like winning the BT title and reaching a deep tourney run.
The recruiting results are not as good for Purdue as some schools...that is true. However I'm hard pressed to think of too many years Purdue had higher rated players than IU. Purdue will be good for a while I suspect
I wasn't talking about just IU. I think Purdue could be better than a round of 32 team with the occasional sweet 16. I expect Purdue to be a sweet 16 team with the occasional Final 4. That doesn't happen without great recruiting. Also, I may be the only one, but I'm very concerned with how the roster looks currently for the 2018/2019 year. Dangerously thin at guard and not a ton of talent up front.
Ah okay I get your gimmick now, you're just here to troll us. Because there is no way that you can say with any sort of seriousness that a last place finish "cancels" out a conference crown. Especially in order to win that crown you'd have to improve your recruiting, so the only reason to make such a post is to troll us.
