is Painter going to stand up for Haas. I'm sick of the guy getting pounded and the coach does not defend him.
When in the F#%£
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You should change your name.
How..........exactly, do you know he isn't standing up for him?
Why do people keep saying this?
Are you kidding ME? WTF makes you think he's not talking to the refs? We've sent video to the league about it since Haas" first game. What makes you think it's gonna make any difference?
Again, one of the dumbest arguments ever.
Essentially blame Painter because Haas gets beat up. Find another horse..
GET AN F'ing TECH... SHOW SOME EMOTION WHEN IT HAPPENS. I go to Purdue games. CMP stands with his arms crossed 99% of the time. GK would be throwing his coat. Bob Knight would be tossed if it happened to IU. Izzo would go nuts. Painter just stands there... Then sends a tape to the B1G office in the off season that goes in the circular file.
So essentially show your ass, give the other team free points, potentially change the momentum of the game.........and it's going to literally change nothing.
How many people bitched about and made fun of Izzo during our game with him.........but you want our coach to act like him. Brilliant.
At least it would make you feel better.
Yes, it would. I've seen games change on a dime when a coach works the refs.
I think it works for situations where officials are missing calls/incidents they are used to seeing or with which they are comfortable. Painter has often said publicly -- and has been repeatedly proven correct -- that refs simply don't know how to officiate Haas. I doubt a demonstrative reaction would change that.
We're not talking about changing a game. We're talking about every ref in the B1G changing the way each of them call a game on Haas because Painter gets a T in one game.
Changing the subject doesn't improve your argument.
I never said it was only going to take 1 tech. When we lose Haas because he was body slammed in the 1st half with no call, something needs done. It happened 2 games in a row with no complaints. If that happens to an Izzo or Matta player, they would have gone to the monitor to look for a flagrant at the very least. With painter, it's a play on.
Some examples of CMP not being emotional.........
As a baseball coach, I can tell you there are times you get want to get tossed and times you don't. The majority of the time you don't because you hurt your team if you're smart. It's the same with getting a tech in basketball.....it's not going to do any good and in case you haven't realized it by now, you ARE NOT going to change an official's mind and in most cases you're only going to pi$$ 'em off. So you get a tech to "protect" one player in one game.....what the hell have you done for the rest of the year and TO the rest of the TEAM? If you watched the IU game, PSU Coach Chambers had every reason to get a "T" on that last second Newkirk shot but didn't because his team was still in the game.
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Wanting the coach to get T'd up is one of the most clueless things I've seen people post.
Having 7'2 290 player being abused to the point of injuries and having a coach upset enough to earn a timely tech for his displeasure of the obvious does not seem clueless. Don't have to be a clown show like Izzo to get that accomplished.
Every once in awhile, it can influence the officials in a coach's favor and/or fire up a team in need of some awakening. It just depends on the words and the tone the coach uses to convey those messages (to officials or his players).
i am at all the home games and painter gets on the refs the whole game. not sure what you are talking about when you say he doesnt defend haas or anyone else. tonite nw was making a little comeback when their coach got a T and we made both free throws and a 3 ball to end that run. had he kept quiet who knows what happens
paintball1979 and 4Purdue mean that they want Painter to convey his displeasure about Haas' treatment to a level that will make it a certainty that the officials will know what he means and also likely "T" him up for it.
I agree that MOST of the time you don't want a head coach to get a technical BUT there are certain occasions where the circumstances and the officials are basically asking for it.
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And those are the ones claiming they both played and coached.
This thread is kesselschmeck level of ridiculousness and the people posting this garbage should be embarrassed it exists.
Rather hypocritical question coming from you based on some of your posts don't you think?
They want Painter to start beating refs with chairs and clipboards. That is the only way to appease this gigantically ridiculous argument.
Couldn't disagree with this more. I can't stand coaches that act like spoiled children most of the game. Not sure why grown men are allowed to act like that. I appreciate having a coach I'm not embarrassed to watch. Painter gets on officials when it's most appropriate and at least all to an official after almost every call against purdue.
Was thinking about this yesterday. I remember when Shaq was at LSU and everybody thought he was a crybaby because he was always bitching about getting absolutely mauled in games with limited calls from the refs. Similar situation of somebody so different physically from the norm that the refs seemed to think he could take more abuse than other bigs. Biggest problem for Shaq was that he couldn't buy a made free throw so he was an easier target. Unfortunately the refs seem to think that while IH should be able to take the abuse the slightest touch from his is a foul and often reason to check the monitors for more.
That works out to about once a year if u count the pixSome examples of CMP not being emotional.........
I surprised you could count that high!!That works out to about once a year if u count the pix
Some examples of CMP not being emotional.........
Heck that is not emotion....in some of those pics he just has gas....
CMP just isn't a huge douche about challenging the refs at times. I think he is about as respectable towards the refs even when they are horrible.
Just because the refs still allow crap to happen against Haas does not mean he isn't defending him. There are ways to work an issue than screaming and yelling and getting T's in a game. I am just saying we don't know what conversations are held with the Big office or director of officiating. We don't even know what the in game conversations with refs are about for the most part.
I get the frustration. I feel it too. Just about every game. But it's NOT Coach Painter. It's a pervasive and wrong-headed assumption that officials make (whether they realize it or not) that Haas "can take more" because he's bigger. Honestly, he gets the crap knocked out of him every game. If a normal player sustained the same amount of punishment Haas does, he'd be in a bodybag.
I know it's not your point but the Shaq comparison (in terms of getting beat up on more than the average player) makes me appreciate that Haas is able to shoot 70%+ from the FT line. It has to be naturally more difficult to make them with him having the huge hands that he does.
Purdue is playing Duke in a regional final for a spot in the final 4. Purdue starts the game on fire with a 14 point lead at the 10 minute mark of the first half and is on the verge of making it 20 points. There is a loose ball heading for the sidelines between the two benches and Matt Waddell goes over to protect the ball going out as it will be Purdue's ball to throw in. Cherokee Parks (big dude at 6'10" or more) runs over and cross body blocks Matt into the scorers table. Coach K. has been rather quiet through the game but quietly coaching the officials to make calls slowing Purdue's momentum. Coach Keady goes ballistic over this play on the sidelines because there in no foul called on Parks. The officials T up Keady and the game changes. Duke leads at half time and wins going away. I like the approach taken by CMP. 'nough said.
I was curious, so I Googled the number of technicals John Wooden had. I found this:
He always treated players and officials with respect, never with the Bobby Knight-style fury and bombast. In his entire career as player and coach, he received just two technical fouls -- and he always maintained that one of them was called by mistake, when someone behind him yelled a profanity, and the referee thought it was Wooden.
So, if anyone says that getting an occasional technical is necessary to being a good coach, I would have to disagree.
He always treated players and officials with respect, never with the Bobby Knight-style fury and bombast. In his entire career as player and coach, he received just two technical fouls -- and he always maintained that one of them was called by mistake, when someone behind him yelled a profanity, and the referee thought it was Wooden.
So, if anyone says that getting an occasional technical is necessary to being a good coach, I would have to disagree.
Good lord you pick one coach out of the history of basketball to validate your point. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of 'good' coaches that get technicals but feel it's not necessary for them to get techs to be a 'good ' coach. I don't think any coach designs his style of coaching with a plan to get t ed up on a occasion.
I give myself a technical for starting this stupid thread. I did it in the heat of the moment watching IH get pounded when it's been going on for 2 1/2 years. Sorry!!
I give myself a technical for starting this stupid thread. I did it in the heat of the moment watching IH get pounded when it's been going on for 2 1/2 years. Sorry!!
If you pick one coach to compare against why not choose the best? Otherwise wouldnt we just be settlers? Ya know like the directv commercial?
Just playing devils advocate here. During UCLA's 88 game winning streak, they had an average margin of victory of 23.5 points per game. There wasn't a lot to get too upset about!!
I like that CMP doesn't look the fool on the sidelines. I will admit that every once in a while though I would love to see him go Keady and toss the jacket! You have to be yourself and that just isn't his personality.
I like that CMP doesn't look the fool on the sidelines. I will admit that every once in a while though I would love to see him go Keady and toss the jacket! You have to be yourself and that just isn't his personality.
If they don't know, then Painter could at least figure out additional ways to sway them. I think the point paintball1979 is trying to make is that other coaches are able to use agitated hysterics to their advantage. It doesn't always work, but I bet it works more often than not.
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