What would China do to hurt the USA...

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Her Twitter was suspended with direction of the CCP very quickly. Strange how some information is allowed to disseminate like wildfire as truth before facts get out but the moment a whistleblower tries to speak up with factual information, they try to put a muzzle on her since it doesn’t fit the information they have so boldly said were facts from the CCP without ever questioning it. Luckily she is out of China now and shouldn’t have to worry about “disappearing” suddenly. Hopefully she can get her information out to the public to expose the CCP and every agency and organization that abetted It.

It will be interesting to see future information about this, not to mention posts on here.
It's clear that there will be pushback as to the underlying theory that Dr. Yan is using as her basic premise.
NY Post (LINK HERE) includes the following excerpt:

“One of the major arguments [in the paper] is that [the virus] is so unique, it can’t have been generated naturally, the only explanation is that it’s man-made,” Dr. Gary Whittaker, a professor of virology at Cornell University’s College of Veterinary Medicine, told The Post. “I would push back on that.”​

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And later, this additional excerpt:

Jason Kaelber, a Rutgers University virologist and an assistant research professor at the Institute for Quantitative Biomedicine, said (Dr. Yan's theory is) simply not the case...​

Kaelber said Yan writes significantly about an apparent “restriction site” on the virus’s genome — a place where a scientist could cut out a piece from a naturally occurring bug and insert something man made — and dismissed it as just “seeing patterns where no patterns exist.”​

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“It’s like seeing the blessed virgin in a piece of toast, the restriction sites that she finds are commonly occurring elsewhere in Sars-Cov-2 and in other related viruses and if you were to engineer in restriction sites to manipulate the spike gene, I certainly wouldn’t do it like that, there’s much better ways to do that,” Kaelber said.​

So we shall see where this goes, although I can guess.

 

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Bump.

 

[TeddyValentineDidNothingWrong]

Is China in the room with us right now?

 

[Riveting-]

Is China in the room with us right now?

We are not in a room in the traditional sense. Rather, this is a forum with no real boundaries, as you have demonstrated through your posts showing there is no defined lower boundary.

Btw, to reinforce what you learned recently (I hope) in another thread, the CCP, like the Nazis, is strongly anti-capitalism (other than when its leaders and officials are amassing corruptly gained wealth for themselves).

You're welcome. Happy Holidays.

 

[Boilermaker03]

You need to immediately contract with a literary agent...…..who can find the right screenwriter....who can then negotiate with a film production company...who can then find the right director and casting company...

So that we all can look forward to your Science Fiction Epic, on the Big Screen , about how China took over the world with their "countrymen" INFECTING THE WORLD !!
…….leaving only China still standing, I guess...….

I'm not saying I necessarily believe that China did what is being suggested here. However, if they knew it wasn't going to kill more than 1% of their own people and they also suspected it would disrupt the rest of the global economy then releasing it upon their own people to spread it to the rest of the world would be the best way to make it look like it wasn't an intentional biological attack.

Just playing devils advocate.

 

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Bump for all the lib sheep:

 

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You think China is above using Biological weapons?

You mean, Covid.....da

 

[moriSss]

You mean, Covid.....da

Actually there is a new info about Covid 19 which allegedly leaked from the lab :/

 

[tjreese]

Actually there is a new info about Covid 19 which allegedly leaked from the lab :/

Quite long, but perhaps an interest to someone? an email sent to me if interested-CCP and YOU with some timelines...meanwhile we had the Russian collusion and other distractions

[COMMENTS FROM DONNA -- China is the largest emitter of pollution (greenhouse gases, etc.) in the world largely because of its coal-powered industries. The Unites States has 2,944 active satellites and knew almost immediately back in Nov. of 2019 that suddenly the Wuhan area (where Dr. Fauci with U. S. tax dollars had helped to fund a bioterrorism, gain-of-function lab) had almost no pollution. Why not? As our intelligence agencies pursued the answer to this question, they discovered that the coal plants had been shut down. Why…because thousands of Chinese workers were dying of COVID as it spread throughout Wuhan, and the coal plants could no longer operate without workers.

From what we know now, it appears that the Wuhan lab(s) were developing a man-made, engineered mRNA virus that could be used as a bioterrorism weapon but for which there was no antidote. The safety procedures used in the Wuham lab(s) were highly suspect.

When the ChiComs realized that there was no way to stop the spreading of COVID when it accidentally escaped from the lab and no antedote was available, they took drastic action.

At that moment in time, the ChiComs were in a battle to take over the world. Pres. Trump had come on the scene, and the ChiComs knew that they had a true adversary who could not be scared into submission to them. What could the ChiComs do? They knew they were on the verge of economic disaster as the COVID spread widely in spite of tyrannical lockdown measures which did not stop the spread.

From sketchy pieces of intelligence information (and also from the well-written articles posted below), it appears that the ChiComs deliberately decided to use their COVID-infected people as walking “time bombs.” A huge political “celebration” of 40,000 people was held in Wuhan. Travel money was given by the ChiComs to the people at the celebration along with directives telling them to go to the West and East Coasts of the United States, to UK, to France, etc.

In Jan. 2020 the first case of diagnosed COVID was found in a Chinese man who had traveled from China to Washington State. Under heavy public criticism from Nancy Pelosi and the Dems, Pres. Donald Trump ignored them and very wisely shut down travel from China to the United States on Jan. 30, 2020. This one action by Pres. Trump probably saved untold numbers of American lives.]
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*** Before you read the 4.6.22 Epoch Times article posted further on down the page, please read what I posted on 3.8.20 which came from NTD News/Epoch Times – a very important article by Penny Zhou – “A Timeline of Events Leading up to the Coronavirus Outbreak in China”:
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PLEASE READ THIS VERY IMPORTANT ARTICLE BY PENNY ZHOU:

3.8.20 – Updated on 3.9.20 -- Epoch Times – republished from NTD News

“A Timeline of Events Leading Up to the Coronavirus Outbreak in China”
By Penny Zhou

Excerpts from this article:

*Please go to the Epoch Times article to read the entire article and view the photos, graphics, and other documentation -- https://www.theepochtimes.com/a-timeline-of-events-leading-up-to-the-coronavirus-outbreak-in-china_3264182.html

Jan. 20 is possibly one of the most important dates on the timeline of China’s coronavirus outbreak.

Before that day, people in Wuhan were carefree and unconcerned about the virus, due to reassuring announcements from authorities.

They weren’t wearing masks. They were visiting infected hospitals that don’t separate fever patients. They were even enjoying massive banquets where over 40,000 people shared meals together.

…But soon after, China’s top coronavirus expert, Zhong Nanshan, appeared on state media to confirm that the virus is actually contagious. That’s when the country started to panic. Authorities began taking drastic measures, but it still wouldn’t stop the flood of tragic incidents from happening.

While you’re probably being bombarded with scary new updates every day, NTD would like to help explain the incidents leading up to Jan. 20 and discuss the idea that this public health event was not an accident. The disastrous outbreak and its cover-up were almost certain to happen under the country’s communist system.

When could China’s authorities have pulled the alarm, enacted preventative measures, and avoided the loss of life?

Earliest Sign

The earliest sign probably showed up in mid-November.

“It’s actually been very long. We have been working under very bad protective measures for almost two months now,” Dr. Wei, a physician in a Wuhan clinic told NTD on Jan. 22 in a phone interview. Dr. Wei said his clinic has been experiencing a surge of fever patients since last November.

A research paper later published may have affirmed what he said.

Commenting on the paper published by Lancet, Infectious disease expert Daniel Lucey told Science Magazine that if the new data is accurate, the first human infections must have occurred in November 2019—if not earlier.

Whistleblower Issues First Warning

Fast forward to late December when information about a mysterious pneumonia outbreak was already circulating inside China’s hospitals. Doctors warned families and friends to stay away from a place called the Huanan Seafood market and to be careful of a potential SARS-like virus.

That includes Dr. Li Wenliang, who posted the lab test result of a coronavirus patient in a group chat of about 150 medics on Dec. 30, writing: “7 cases of SARS have been confirmed in the South China Fruit and Seafood Market and they were isolated in the emergency department of our hospital. Please tell your families to take preventative measures.”

…In later interviews, some doctors also revealed that healthcare workers were starting to become infected around this time, a significant sign that the virus could spread between humans.

This should have alerted health experts.

Health officials in Wuhan were indeed alerted. But instead of ramping up safety measures and alerting the public, on Dec. 30 they issued a document (pdf) forbidding all medical institutes or individuals from disclosing any information regarding the new disease.

At midnight the same day, Dr. Li Wenliang was summoned by the police. They questioned him about why he was spreading rumors online. A few days later, Dr. Li was asked to sign a document reading, “We want you to cooperate with the police, and listen to our reminder and stop the illegal act. Can you do that?”

Li wrote, “I can.”

*Please see Letter of Admonition by Wuhan Public Security Bureau. (Public Domain)

The 34-year-old whistleblower later died from the illness on Feb. 7…

Public Announcement

On Dec. 31, Wuhan’s health commission finally posted an announcement about the outbreak on their website. They confirmed 27 cases of the infection and said there was no evidence that the disease was contagious among humans.

But according to a research paper written by Chinese officials, which was published later, the number of virus cases had reached at least 105 by the end of 2019. At that point, 15 people had already died.

A media report also showed that one major hospital in Wuhan, Xiehe Hospital, was forced to transform an entire floor of the facility into “quarantine space for contagious disease.”

Not knowing about the potential danger, Wuhan locals were still visiting the potential origin of the virus. One Chinese reporter saw the seafood market operating as usual on Dec. 31.

None of the people the reporter talked with knew anything about the viral pneumonia and nobody was wearing masks.

Compared to carefree residents in Wuhan, those with better sources of information started taking a completely different kind of approach.

According to an internal document, a military-affiliated college in Wuhan started a de facto lockdown on Jan. 2. The document requires a “strict check” for anyone entering the campus. Visitors had to “go through fever checking and people are forbidden to enter the campus if their body temperatures are over 100 F.”

On Jan. 4, the Hong Kong government activated a “serious response level” in reaction to the outbreak.

This was nearly 20 days before Wuhan city’s lockdown.

On Jan. 6, the center for disease control in Shanghai acquired the complete gene sequencing of the new virus. They found over 89 percent similarity between the new virus and the deadly SARS virus that caused a pandemic in 2003.

The information was sent to China’s national CDC in an internal document.

The center recommended that authorities implement preventative measures in all public places.

Suppression of Data
Then came an extremely quiet period for the coronavirus. From Jan. 6 to Jan. 17. Wuhan authorities reported almost zero new cases.

The lull reassured the Chinese people. The mysterious pneumonia didn’t appear to be a contagious disease.

But there might be another reason behind the quiet—this 11 day period was when authorities in Wuhan City and Hubei Province held their most important annual political meetings. Over 2,000 “representatives of the people” gathered to discuss the “amazing achievements of 2019” and how 2020 will be “a tremendous and promising year.”

The virus? It was barely mentioned.

In an interview with Hong Kong media Initium, Professor of Sociology at Stanford University, Zhou Xueguang said that he was not surprised by the Wuhan government’s response. He explained that downplaying negative incidents, especially during major political events, is the Chinese government’s coping mechanism.

He said, “Only that the consequence of following their playbook was so disastrous this time, and that is something the officials didn’t expect.”

Meanwhile, the reality of the situation was getting worse.

According to an SOS post on Chinese social media site Weibo, a person’s dad was confirmed to have viral pneumonia. But the Xiehe Hospital in Wuhan refused to admit the father due to a shortage of hospital beds.

Another netizen posted that his entire family was infected. They went to the Tongji Hospital in Wuhan and saw that “there were so many patients that some had to lie on the floor of the corridor.” His father was also sent home to self-quarantine because there weren’t enough hospital beds.

The post was later deleted. So were all other posts in the user’s account.

That’s the week Wuhan authorities didn’t report a single confirmed or suspected case.

Spread Encouraged

Everything seemed to be under control. On Jan. 17, Wuhan’s tourism bureau even issued over 200,000 free tourism tickets. It was an effort to entice people to visit the city, so they could experience the “Chinese style and warm sentiments of Wuhan.”

Not only was the Chinese regime cracking down on the negative “rumors,” they were also working hard to prevent information from making its way out of mainland China.

On Jan. 14, a group of Hong Kong journalists accompanied Hong Kong experts who were invited to conduct research on the virus outbreak. The reporters were later detained by Chinese police, who photographed their reporter IDs and asked them to delete all footage taken inside hospitals.

From Jan. 12 to 16, an estimated over 3 million passengers left Wuhan by train, to visit other cities in China.

On Jan. 18, Baibuting, a populous district in Wuhan, held an annual banquet to celebrate the Lunar New Year holiday.

But three days before, staff from the neighborhood committee who were concerned about the outbreak asked if they could cancel the banquet. But district officials denied the request.

Over 40,000 families eventually joined the banquet.

If you’re a resident of Wuhan, and you’ve followed the government’s directive to not “believe or spread conspiracy theories,” here’s what you’d know about the coronavirus: First, there is zero infection among medical staff; Second, there is no evidence that the disease is contagious; And third, the outbreak is preventable and controllable.

But on Jan. 20, for the first time ever, a Chinese expert said there was actually human to human transmission of the virus. The number of infected people exploded. Three days later, the entire city of Wuhan was put under lockdown. Over 50 million people were impacted.

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4.6.22 – Epoch Times

“Memo Reveals State Department Assessed in Early 2020 That Lab Leak Was Most Likely Origin of COVID-19”

By Jeff Carlson and Hans Mahncke

EXCERPTS FROM THIS ARTICLE:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/memo-reveals-state-department-assessed-in-early-2020-lab-leak-was-most-likely-origin-of-covid-19_4387879.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2022-04-07&utm_medium=email&est=%2FSlGh12m6dvAAlpGRClAhfrwtZQVcKdvyAlJ%2FqnCQWdyAqQWUw38%2F9DtYCBT

A newly released memo from the U.S. State Department reveals that government officials knew early on that the COVID pandemic likely originated at a lab in Wuhan, China.

That memo, dated April 2020, states that out of five possible origins for COVID, a lab leak was by far the most likely. The memo also suggests that alternative theories had been introduced to prevent a lab leak from being investigated. The memo, which focuses almost entirely on the likelihood of a lab leak, contains a large amount of information that wasn’t known publicly at the time it was written.

Although a lab leak is now widely accepted as a likely origin for the virus, when the memo was written, a concerted effort was underway to discredit that possibility…

According to the newly released memo, the State Department knew as of April 2020 that the central issue surrounded an obsession with collecting and testing a massive amount of virus-carrying bats on the part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology and China’s Wuhan-located Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The State Department noted that lab testing of the earliest-known patient at the Wuhan Central Hospital in December 2019 determined that the virus was a “Bat SARS-like Coronavirus.” At the time this patient was tested, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) hadn’t disclosed that there was any problem at all.

When they finally acknowledged an outbreak, they initially blamed it on pneumonia. It was only at the end of January that the CCP finally started admitting that COVID-19 was caused by a new virus that was transmitted between humans.

By that time, the virus had already been seeded across the globe and any chance at suppression had been lost. It was during this same period that the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Dr. Anthony Fauci, was made aware of the virus’s likely origin, having been told by a group of scientists whom he was funding that there was a high probability that the virus was engineered.

Although it’s been known since June 2021 that Fauci and the NIH covered up his knowledge of the virus’s origin…

Two Labs

The memo, titled “An Analysis of Circumstantial Evidence for Wuhan Labs as the Source of the Coronavirus,” comprises five pages and is written in military BLUF style, meaning “bottom line up front.”

The memo begins by stating that one of two Wuhan labs is the likely source of the COVID outbreak. The two labs identified by the state department are the Wuhan CDC’s lab located in downtown Wuhan and the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where Shi Zhengli was known to have conducted dangerous gain-of-function experiments on bat viruses.

The State Department’s focus on the Wuhan CDC lab as a possible source is particularly significant as that facility is located only a few hundred feet from the Huanan Seafood Market where an already infected customer may have caused a superspreader event in December 2019.

Notably, the World Health Organization’s lead investigator of the virus’s origin, Peter Ben Embarek, privately told a Danish TV crew that he suspected that the Wuhan CDC lab was the origin of the pandemic. Embarek, who promoted a natural origin for the virus in his public report, privately noted that the CDC lab had mysteriously moved to its new downtown location in early December and that such a move may have increased the chances of a lab leak or accidental spillage.

The other lab identified by the State Department as the likely source of the pandemic is the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which has been the main focus of attention over the past two years.

The State Department memo noted that the Wuhan Institute, by far the most logical place to investigate the virus origin, had been completely sealed off from outside inquiry by the CCP. The memo also noted that a gag order regarding both Wuhan labs had been issued on Jan 1, 2020, and a major general from the People’s Liberation Army had assumed control over the Wuhan Institute of Virology since early January of 2020.

The State Department memo emphatically stated that “All other proposed theories are likely to be a decoy to prevent inquiry to Wuhan CDC and Wuhan Institute of Virology.”

It bears repeating that the memo was written in April 2020.

That’s because the State Department’s decoy argument mirrors the actions taken by Fauci and then-National Institutes of Health (NIH) head Dr. Francis Collins who–at the same time this memo was written–were actively suppressing and censoring any public discussion of the lab leak scenario. When Fox News ran a story in April 2020 suggesting that the virus came out of a Wuhan lab, Collins immediately contacted Fauci to explore ways the two men could “put down this very destructive conspiracy.”

Collins had previously told Fauci and his group of scientists that “science and international harmony” could be harmed if the lab leak theory took hold.

Collins’s directive led Fauci’s group to publish two papers that categorically dismissed the lab leak theory, one in the medical journal the Lancet and the other in the scientific journal Nature. Those two papers would become the cornerstone of combined efforts from Fauci’s scientists, the media, Big Tech, and the U.S. government to suppress any discussion of a lab leak, while simultaneously promoting the natural origin theory.

…Regarding the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the State Department memo noted that the director of the lab, Shi Zhengli, had conducted gain-of-function engineering of bat viruses to make them more easily transmittable to humans. As we now know, the defining feature of the COVID-19 virus, its furin cleavage site, is what makes the virus particularly transmissible in humans. While no furin cleavage site has ever been observed in naturally occurring SARS coronaviruses, Shi was part of a 2018 research proposal that aimed to insert exactly such a feature into coronaviruses.

The State Department’s memo also highlights the poor safety standards at the Wuhan Institute, a fact that could easily lead to an unintentional leak of the deadly virus to the outside population. Interestingly, the memo also questions the disappearance of lab worker Huang Yanling, whose bio, profile, and picture were scrubbed from the institute’s website shortly after the outbreak. To this day, Huang’s whereabouts and well-being remain unknown.

Lastly, the memo takes a detailed look at a Chinese medical professional whose online name is Wu Xiaohua. Wu claimed that Shi Zhengli was playing God by creating coronaviruses with the specific aim of making them more transmissible in humans. Wu also claimed that Shi used intermediate animals in her lab and that her lab’s management of deadly viruses was appallingly poor and negligent.

The State Department memo found Wu’s claims to be credible and that assessment holds up well, given the information that has been made public in the intervening two years. We now know Shi had an active plan to insert furin cleavage sites into bat viruses, we know that she used humanized mice to test how her virus creations would affect humans, and we know that her lab was repeatedly cited for its poor safety record.

…Had the memo been made public nearly two years ago when it was written, the course of events would have been very different. Knowing that the virus came out of a lab would have refocused public attention and the search for remedies could have been more focused.

There also would have been more concerted efforts to prevent future leaks. Rather than misdirecting the public toward a natural origin, Fauci and the NIH would have been exposed for their role in funding the work at the Wuhan Institute.

Most importantly, the Chinese Communist Party would have been subjected to greater international pressure for its role in suppressing any advance information regarding the outbreak. The memo might also have had an impact on the 2020 presidential election, as voters tended to see Donald Trump as far more capable than Joe Biden in taking on the CCP…