What we can do as fans!

[mediaexpert]

One of the worst things that is happening right now to our country is that we are moving towards a New World Order. Now we can politically debate this. However, one thing I believe we can all agree on is that the country is becoming secular. We are moving away from G_d. On Rivals alone, I can see it that when their journalists report things like we need to cross our fingers. What the heck does that mean?

I am grateful that they wrote a nice piece about Aidan O'Connell. I have read posts that he is not mobile enough behind our line and how he was a walk on. However, he gets the job done. And this article shows that as a young man of great Faith. He doesn't just throw the ball and cross his fingers.

What I am suggesting is that Purdue has had more than their fair share of injuries for the last several years. May I suggest as fans that we all take a couple of minutes every day and pray for these fine kids. I may criticize Brohm's coaching but I am PROUD of the the character of the kids he is recruiting. We have had several over the last few years that are good enough to talk trash but they have remained humble. I feel great that super stars like Bell and Karlaftis seem like normal kids just out their doing their job to help the team.

Dear Lord, these young men are working hard to bring you glory. They are practicing hard while keeping up in the classroom and we pray Lord that you continue to look after them and keep them safe.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

🍿

 

[BBG]

God and Beer. Thats the life brother!

 

[Woodsa]

This is a great idea and something fans can do to make a difference.

 

[Fugs]

Let's build a touch down Jesus in the south end zone.

 

[SCBoiler1]

Hopefully God has the super duper package so he can monitor all of the games on cable.

 

[mediaexpert]

It is funny but my first reaction to touchdown Jesus was negative because I grew up when they erected that statue at Notre Dame and my family Purdue lineage goes back to the 30's so I would make fun of it. It is easy to point out the hypocrisy of anyone. However, my attitude towards Catholics changed when I married one and realized that she had more integrity than I. And her demonstration of her faith was the reason why.

However, since we are not a religious supported University, I think we need to rename it Touchdown God to honor all faiths. Maybe we should have a plaque of the Ten Commandments because it is the foundation of the 3 major faiths - Islam, Jewish, and Christian.

And yes, I agree that all the college football teams take up this idea in order to bring God back into vogue with the college kids. And then when we order the super duper package, we can tell the wife we are ordering religious programming making it a guilt free Saturday.

 

[Droid12345]

However, since we are not a religious supported University, I think we need to rename it Touchdown God to honor all faiths. Maybe we should have a plaque of the Ten Commandments because it is the foundation of the 3 major faiths - Islam, Jewish, and Christian.

Some religions don’t have gods, so referencing one in no way honors “all” faiths, and could certainly alienate the non-religious, as well. Also not sure how you determined that the Abrahamic religions are “the major” ones. What makes a particular religion major?

Given church state separation, Purdue couldn’t put up a plaque of the Ten Commandments without also allowing, for instance, a monument provided by the satanic temple.

Aside from legal concerns, why would you suggest using “god” instead of “Jesus” in order to be inclusive (even if that doesn’t really work) but then also want the Ten Commandments, which are definitely exclusive of any non-Abrahamic religion?

 

[mediaexpert]

Some religions don’t have gods, so referencing one in no way honors “all” faiths, and could certainly alienate the non-religious, as well. Also not sure how you determined that the Abrahamic religions are “the major” ones. What makes a particular religion major?

Given church state separation, Purdue couldn’t put up a plaque of the Ten Commandments without also allowing, for instance, a monument provided by the satanic temple.

Aside from legal concerns, why would you suggest using “god” instead of “Jesus” in order to be inclusive (even if that doesn’t really work) but then also want the Ten Commandments, which are definitely exclusive of any non-Abrahamic religion?

I understand exactly what you are saying but you missed the vital point. If you don't believe in a God or a higher power than you don't have a faith you have a belief or an opinion. So please feel free to cross your fingers. I will accept your opinion. However, please don't change the greatest nation ever built because we hurt your feelings.

And keep in mind that vast majority of US citizens are of the Abrahamic religions. Your argument is exactly where IMO our country is going. Your wanting to include everyone is correct in theory but impractical. Not everyone has faith, so the New World Order is to be secular. And right now, we are seeing tremendous consequences to these actions. And if you want to use Red China as your role model, please compare how they treat religion and how tolerant and diversified they are.

 

[gleap1969]

Perhaps Purdue should schedule Cthulhu's school -

 

[Droid12345]

I understand exactly what you are saying but you missed the vital point. If you don't believe in a God or a higher power than you don't have a faith you have a belief or an opinion. So please feel free to cross your fingers. I will accept your opinion. However, please don't change the greatest nation ever built because we hurt your feelings.

Do Buddhists* have faith? Change the nation from what?

And keep in mind that vast majority of US citizens are of the Abrahamic religions.

Well, the vast majority are Christians, yes. By population, almost no Americans are Muslim (.9%) or Jewish (1.9%). FAR MORE Americans are non-religious (22.8%) than are any other religion other than Christianity. More people explicitly identify as atheist (3.1%) than Jewish. SOURCE

Your argument is exactly where IMO our country is going. Your wanting to include everyone is correct in theory but impractical. Not everyone has faith, so the New World Order is to be secular. And right now, we are seeing tremendous consequences to these actions. And if you want to use Red China as your role model, please compare how they treat religion and how tolerant and diversified they are.

If you can draw a line of causation from increasing secularism to negative consequences, I'd like to see it. Sounds like an unfounded claim to me. And, to be clear, "negative" in this context doesn't include things that the Christian faith thinks is bad, but things that can actually be demonstrated to be bad for society.

Also, I never mentioned China, so I'm not sure how you can make the claim that I'm using China as a role model.

*Edit: An earlier version of this post said "Hindus" instead of "Buddhists," a non-theistic religion.

 

[Indy_Rider]

Some religions don’t have gods, so referencing one in no way honors “all” faiths, and could certainly alienate the non-religious, as well. Also not sure how you determined that the Abrahamic religions are “the major” ones. What makes a particular religion major?

Given church state separation, Purdue couldn’t put up a plaque of the Ten Commandments without also allowing, for instance, a monument provided by the satanic temple.

Aside from legal concerns, why would you suggest using “god” instead of “Jesus” in order to be inclusive (even if that doesn’t really work) but then also want the Ten Commandments, which are definitely exclusive of any non-Abrahamic religion?

That is why we should put up one of our lord and savior, Touchdown Brees.

And if that offends people, they are not actually a Purdue fan, so who cares.

 

[Courthouse Carp]

 

[mediaexpert]

Do Buddhists* have faith? Change the nation from what?

Well, the vast majority are Christians, yes. By population, almost no Americans are Muslim (.9%) or Jewish (1.9%). FAR MORE Americans are non-religious (22.8%) than are any other religion other than Christianity. More people explicitly identify as atheist (3.1%) than Jewish. SOURCE

If you can draw a line of causation from increasing secularism to negative consequences, I'd like to see it. Sounds like an unfounded claim to me. And, to be clear, "negative" in this context doesn't include things that the Christian faith thinks is bad, but things that can actually be demonstrated to be bad for society.

*Edit: A previous version of this post said "Hindus" instead of "Buddhists," a non-theistic religion.

My brother-in-law was a Buddhist and he explained it more as a way of life than a faith. Thank you for setting me straight on the # of Jews and Muslims. I too am influenced by the media propaganda thinking that there were a lot more. It felt like they made up about one sixth of the population.

I still think that we are the greatest country in the world but it seems like Red China which was a third world country is passing us and I blame that on us going secular. If you want to talk politics, I also blame it on the Globalist Corporations that I define as having an agenda to grow through world market share and using cheap labor. That is fine for businessmen and there is nothing wrong with businessmen who do. However, our DC Politicians better be for America First and IMO those who aren't are corrupt and should be kicked out of office. Please notice that I do not get carried away with Republicans vs Democrats or Liberals vs Conservative because both sides are guilty. Xi puts Red China first, Putin puts Russia first, and I respect that they do. Likewise we need DC Politicians who put America First and are not outliving their means.

 

[TMFT]

My brother-in-law was a Buddhist and he explained it more as a way of life than a faith. Thank you for setting me straight on the # of Jews and Muslims. I too am influenced by the media propaganda thinking that there were a lot more. It felt like they made up about one sixth of the population.

I still think that we are the greatest country in the world but it seems like Red China which was a third world country is passing us and I blame that on us going secular. If you want to talk politics, I also blame it on the Globalist Corporations that I define as having an agenda to grow through world market share and using cheap labor. That is fine for businessmen and there is nothing wrong with businessmen who do. However, our DC Politicians better be for America First and IMO those who aren't are corrupt and should be kicked out of office. Please notice that I do not get carried away with Republicans vs Democrats or Liberals vs Conservative because both sides are guilty. Xi puts Red China first, Putin puts Russia first, and I respect that they do. Likewise we need DC Politicians who put America First and are not outliving their means.

If "Red China is passing us," isn't that an argument FOR secularism since they're godless communists?

And I've got my copy of "The Wealth of Nations" if you want a couple hundred year old treatise on why protectionism is bad (outside of a handful of specific sectors for national security reasons).

Nostalgia for the "good old days" or the "way things used to be" are hollow because they're mostly false narratives cherry picking the best parts of days gone by. Likewise, generically painting all politicians as corrupt is easy because it doesn't name names or list corruption. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Back to what the topic of the thread ostensibly was supposed to be. You want to support players? Donate to the JPC, go to games, cheer, buy merch, send your kids to Purdue.

 

[Droid12345]

My brother-in-law was a Buddhist and he explained it more as a way of life than a faith.

Fine regarding Buddhism, but it's still a religion that you are excluding, even in your effort to be inclusive by putting up a "Touchdown God" rather than a "Touchdown Jesus." It's also just one example of a non-theistic religion, of which there are many.

Regarding the rest of your post, I'm not really interested in getting into the larger argument of whether secularism is good or bad, except to point out that you've not actually demonstrated that increasing secularism has been bad for America, you've simply claimed it.

 

[FirstDownB]

Oh boy. Between this and the injury thread, we're really going places.

 

[mediaexpert]

If "Red China is passing us," isn't that an argument FOR secularism since they're godless communists?

You NAILED it! Red China is passing us and that is exactly what the Globalist Corporations (GC) want for themselves in the New World Order. They want people to behave like Robots and rely on the government totally and not God. This is why we are still sending foreign aid to RC, we negotiate unfair trade deal, we share our patents and in return we let RC do our manufacturing because RC has cheap labor and a massive population that means more sales. And the media makes young people think that the RC people live better lives than us. It is the ones on top who are filthy rich just like DC Politicians who are living beyond their means. Please pick any career DC Politician and we can examine their wealth and learn about insider trading.

This is why I support Brohm and Painter. They are not perfect and they have made plenty of mistakes But overall, they play fair, recruit fair, and have players I can support. BTW, I closely followed the career of Joe Paterno and I saw how the media rip up his life. And I followed him because he cared for his kids more off the field.

 

[Riveting]

You NAILED it! Red China is passing us and that is exactly what the Globalist Corporations (GC) want for themselves in the New World Order. They want people to behave like Robots and rely on the government totally and not God. This is why we are still sending foreign aid to RC, we negotiate unfair trade deal, we share our patents and in return we let RC do our manufacturing because RC has cheap labor and a massive population that means more sales. And the media makes young people think that the RC people live better lives than us. It is the ones on top who are filthy rich just like DC Politicians who are living beyond their means. Please pick any career DC Politician and we can examine their wealth and learn about insider trading.

This is why I support Brohm and Painter. They are not perfect and they have made plenty of mistakes But overall, they play fair, recruit fair, and have players I can support. BTW, I closely followed the career of Joe Paterno and I saw how the media rip up his life. And I followed him because he cared for his kids more off the field.

You just destroyed your argument, which was not strong to begin with, with your statement that Paterno 'cared' for his kids, implying that he didn't cover for a pedophile to protect his football 'program.'

 

[Bobtheboiler88]

That is why we should put up one of our lord and savior, Touchdown Brees.

And if that offends people, they are not actually a Purdue fan, so who cares.

😂😂😂

 

[Droid12345]

You just destroyed your argument, which was not strong to begin with, with your statement that Paterno 'cared' for his kids, implying that he didn't cover for a pedophile to protect his football 'program.'

You and I don't agree often, but yeah, uhh.....sticking up for Joe Paterno? Yikes...

 

[Riveting]

You and I don't agree often, but yeah, uhh.....sticking up for Joe Paterno? Yikes...

Right, maybe there is hope for you...

BoilerUP

 

[Purdue85]

... you missed the vital point.

With that, I wish you much luck, my brother!

 

[mediaexpert]

I posted the facts here several years ago but I am glad to post them again. I had probably the most efficient media buying service in the country. Therefore IMO I am an expert on media. Here we have a gentleman who some may say is far left agreeing with another gentleman who some say is far right, BECAUSE they both are educated and read the same propaganda.

The media has you believing that Joe and Jerry were best friends and Joe protected Jerry to be able to win more football games. Joe did not socialize with Jerry after Jerry resigned and their only relationship was that Joe’s grandchildren played with Jerry’s kids. If Joe thought Jerry was a pedophile do you believe he would have them go over to Jerry’s house? I became a fan of Joe when watching PSU was play Wisconsin. PSU was not during well for a couple of years and they were upsetting Wisconsin. A defensive lineman had something like his third sack right after halftime and was strutting over the QB taunting him which was fine everyone was doing it back then. A minute later, the cameraman is showing the sideline where Joe is yelling at his player while holding onto his face mask the entire time. Joe did not let the player back in and Wisconsin came from behind to win. Did you know that Joe did not let the #2 NFL draft pick place in a Bowl Game because an agent bought him a suit but the NCAA still allowed him to play? How about the NFL All Star receiver who Joe did not allow to play in the Bowl Game because he knew he would make millions in the NFL and decided not to go to class any more? How about the at-risk player who the media splashed how the cops suspected he murdered someone. PSU and everyone shunned him and attacked Joe because Joe believed his story and stood by the kid. And yes, the kid turned out to be innocent. Almost every kid who played for Joe hated playing for Joe but today I have not read or heard of one player who believes Joe did not care for him off the field more so than on the field. And I talked with several who played for him.

BTW, Scott Paterno heard the story about Jerry having sex with a kid and told his father to try and help punish Jerry, which Joe did. At the trial, it turned out that story had so many holes in it that Jerry was found innocent of those charges. The only eyewitness had dementia but told another janitor he saw Jerry rape a kid and that janitor testified in court and Jerry was rightly found guilty. However later, police documents were found where the eyewitness janitor at the time reported the incident and said that he did not know who the man was but when specifically asked said it was NOT Jerry. The boy who testified originally had holes in his story and later it was found out that his step-father was a convicted pedophile and IMO it was he who molested him but PSU gave the kid $3 million. Two boys who volunteered to testify for Jerry met with the lawyer who represented most victims. They kept quiet during the trial and then both filed charges and PSU paid them $3 million apiece. The PSU BOD MO was to pay off the “victims” and move on and the media had a field day twisting everything the best the could. ESPN made at least tens of millions as well as everyone else made money reporting their twist. The “reporter” who originally wrote the story wrote Joe as a hero for his testimony and there was no reaction. However, when she suggested Joe was an enabler then she became famous and the media went wild. Please know the facts before you put someone down. Personally IMO Jerry was a big naïve man who wanted to help at-risk boys and inappropriately tried to show them affection and was guilty for going beyond borders. I seriously doubt he had sex with any boy. Yet pedophile rapist who were caught in the act or admitted it were given far less sentences than Jerry. And that is a real shame!

 

[Riveting]

I posted the facts here several years ago but I am glad to post them again. I had probably the most efficient media buying service in the country. Therefore IMO I am an expert on media. Here we have a gentleman who some may say is far left agreeing with another gentleman who some say is far right, BECAUSE they both are educated and read the same propaganda.

The media has you believing that Joe and Jerry were best friends and Joe protected Jerry to be able to win more football games. Joe did not socialize with Jerry after Jerry resigned and their only relationship was that Joe’s grandchildren played with Jerry’s kids. If Joe thought Jerry was a pedophile do you believe he would have them go over to Jerry’s house? I became a fan of Joe when watching PSU was play Wisconsin. PSU was not during well for a couple of years and they were upsetting Wisconsin. A defensive lineman had something like his third sack right after halftime and was strutting over the QB taunting him which was fine everyone was doing it back then. A minute later, the cameraman is showing the sideline where Joe is yelling at his player while holding onto his face mask the entire time. Joe did not let the player back in and Wisconsin came from behind to win. Did you know that Joe did not let the #2 NFL draft pick place in a Bowl Game because an agent bought him a suit but the NCAA still allowed him to play? How about the NFL All Star receiver who Joe did not allow to play in the Bowl Game because he knew he would make millions in the NFL and decided not to go to class any more? How about the at-risk player who the media splashed how the cops suspected he murdered someone. PSU and everyone shunned him and attacked Joe because Joe believed his story and stood by the kid. And yes, the kid turned out to be innocent. Almost every kid who played for Joe hated playing for Joe but today I have not read or heard of one player who believes Joe did not care for him off the field more so than on the field. And I talked with several who played for him.

BTW, Scott Paterno heard the story about Jerry having sex with a kid and told his father to try and help punish Jerry, which Joe did. At the trial, it turned out that story had so many holes in it that Jerry was found innocent of those charges. The only eyewitness had dementia but told another janitor he saw Jerry rape a kid and that janitor testified in court and Jerry was rightly found guilty. However later, police documents were found where the eyewitness janitor at the time reported the incident and said that he did not know who the man was but when specifically asked said it was NOT Jerry. The boy who testified originally had holes in his story and later it was found out that his step-father was a convicted pedophile and IMO it was he who molested him but PSU gave the kid $3 million. Two boys who volunteered to testify for Jerry met with the lawyer who represented most victims. They kept quiet during the trial and then both filed charges and PSU paid them $3 million apiece. The PSU BOD MO was to pay off the “victims” and move on and the media had a field day twisting everything the best the could. ESPN made at least tens of millions as well as everyone else made money reporting their twist. The “reporter” who originally wrote the story wrote Joe as a hero for his testimony and there was no reaction. However, when she suggested Joe was an enabler then she became famous and the media went wild. Please know the facts before you put someone down. Personally IMO Jerry was a big naïve man who wanted to help at-risk boys and inappropriately tried to show them affection and was guilty for going beyond borders. I seriously doubt he had sex with any boy. Yet pedophile rapist who were caught in the act or admitted it were given far less sentences than Jerry. And that is a real shame!

Pretty amazed by your reply here.

My recall is that the red-haired assistant coach (name escapes me) caught Sandusky raping a child in the PSU showers. Instead of calling the police, he told Joe. Joe, instead of calling the police, told the AD. The AD and univ president covered it up.

All of this was discovered, along with various other Sandusky 'incidents'. Joe died or would have gone to jail for not calling the police. The AD and prez did go to jail.

Sandusky went to jail for life.

Are you claiming this is not what transpired and that the AD, the prez, and Sandusky did not deserve jail time???

 

[RossMackey]

Pretty amazed by your reply here.

My recall is that the red-haired assistant coach (name escapes me) caught Sandusky raping a child in the PSU showers. Instead of calling the police, he told Joe. Joe, instead of calling the police, told the AD. The AD and univ president covered it up.

All of this was discovered, along with various other Sandusky 'incidents'. Joe died or would have gone to jail for not calling the police. The AD and prez did go to jail.

Sandusky went to jail for life.

Are you claiming this is not what transpired and that the AD, the prez, and Sandusky did not deserve jail time???

Please… this is what the “secular media” wants you to believe🤣🤣🤣…. Joepa was innocent, Hillary drinks baby’s blood, Hugo Chavez rigged the 2020 election, an January 6 was a love-in for right-minded patriots…..

stop being such a sheep! 😜

 

[mediaexpert]

Pretty amazed by your reply here.

My recall is that the red-haired assistant coach (name escapes me) caught Sandusky raping a child in the PSU showers. Instead of calling the police, he told Joe. Joe, instead of calling the police, told the AD. The AD and univ president covered it up.

All of this was discovered, along with various other Sandusky 'incidents'. Joe died or would have gone to jail for not calling the police. The AD and prez did go to jail.

Sandusky went to jail for life.

Are you claiming this is not what transpired and that the AD, the prez, and Sandusky did not deserve jail time???

Yes the media narrative is all wrong. Mike McCreary the Assistant saw Sandusky in the showers with a kid. That evening told his father and the family doctor but did not say anything sexual. The next day he told Joe again nothing sexual. Joe arranged a meeting with the AD and the Head of Security. They deemed there was nothing to it and told Sandusky to wear a bathing suit. They then told Second Mile about it. They are the Foundation Jerry started to help at-risk kids. They have trained child pedophile spotters on staff.

Mike gave testimony at the trial and his testimony was not believable and they found Sandusky innocent of that charge. They found Sandusky guilty of the hearsay from the Janitor that turned out to be bogus. Sandusky was found guilty on charges made by the "victims". Their story lines, time lines and other details were changed after talking to their attorneys. Jerry was already labeled a monster by Scott Paterno. The people in the area did not want to be labeled rape enablers IMO. And the kids were already paid millions by the PSU BOD who just wanted the incident swept away. There was no physical evidence. Sandusky's son told one of the News shows that people walked in on them but no one came forward and said they saw anything and they would have been applauded if they did. Sandusky was wrong where he was always hugging on a kid or rubbing on them. And he did shower with the boys after working out. But that is all he did wrong that I could see. I talked to people who knew Sandusky and that was just the way he was. His father ran a Y in the town he grew up and was known as a father figure to them. Not much has been written on that but IMO that is where Sandusky picked up this behavior. His wife is known to be hard line and they lived in a small house and it appears she would have gone ballistic if she ever heard or seen anything out of order.

 

[mediaexpert]

Sorry, his name is Mike McQueary and I just read this for the first time; https://www.bigtrial.net/2017/04/penn-state-confidential-mike-mcqueary.html

The article says they did not know the name of the child in the shower with Sandusky. But I had read that it was Alan Miles. He and Sandusky's adopted son are the ones who was going to testify for Sandusky but then turned out to be a client of the lawyer who got him the $3 million apiece.

 

[Riveting]

Yes the media narrative is all wrong. Mike McCreary the Assistant saw Sandusky in the showers with a kid. That evening told his father and the family doctor but did not say anything sexual. The next day he told Joe again nothing sexual. Joe arranged a meeting with the AD and the Head of Security. They deemed there was nothing to it and told Sandusky to wear a bathing suit. They then told Second Mile about it. They are the Foundation Jerry started to help at-risk kids. They have trained child pedophile spotters on staff.

Mike gave testimony at the trial and his testimony was not believable and they found Sandusky innocent of that charge. They found Sandusky guilty of the hearsay from the Janitor that turned out to be bogus. Sandusky was found guilty on charges made by the "victims". Their story lines, time lines and other details were changed after talking to their attorneys. Jerry was already labeled a monster by Scott Paterno. The people in the area did not want to be labeled rape enablers IMO. And the kids were already paid millions by the PSU BOD who just wanted the incident swept away. There was no physical evidence. Sandusky's son told one of the News shows that people walked in on them but no one came forward and said they saw anything and they would have been applauded if they did. Sandusky was wrong where he was always hugging on a kid or rubbing on them. And he did shower with the boys after working out. But that is all he did wrong that I could see. I talked to people who knew Sandusky and that was just the way he was. His father ran a Y in the town he grew up and was known as a father figure to them. Not much has been written on that but IMO that is where Sandusky picked up this behavior. His wife is known to be hard line and they lived in a small house and it appears she would have gone ballistic if she ever heard or seen anything out of order.

Forget the media narrative, you seem to be saying there was a massive miscarriage of justice and that nobody should have gone to prison.

Is that what you are saying?

 

[TMFT]

This thread has more plot twists than Days of Our Lives!

I can't wait to hear the @mediaexpert opinion on Mussolini, "At least he made the trains run on time."

 

[Riveting]

This thread has more plot twists than Days of Our Lives!

I can't wait to hear the @mediaexpert opinion on Mussolini, "At least he made the trains run on time."

Occam says that @mediaexpert , a self-proclaimed expert on media (whatever that is supposed to mean), has fallen for and is trying to spread a media narrative that sandusky, joe, and psu were somehow railroaded despite all the convictions in court.

 

[mediaexpert]

I don't know who Occam is but I call myself a media expert because advertising is about getting people to eat and drink poison and have people singing about it. Once somebody sees the reality in that, one can see that the media can drive public opinion and make somebody who is different a monster.

It amazes me that the media can take Joe Paterno who cared about his players on and off the field, donated academic buildings, and made PSU a well known University and turn at least 40% of PSU alumni against him. And unlike posters here, the PSU alumni should be finding out the facts on their own. It is their school! Yet they want the media to tell them what to think.

Now, I may be wrong and maybe Sandusky had sex with a kid or two. I just don't see any evidence. If one person said he saw it or one person said there was blood or semen on their kid's underwear then I would shut up.

 

[Cleanface]

I come to this forum to get away from the pettiness of Facebook, and the drumbeat of agitation and argument permeating most of social media, and discuss Purdue University Football.

What is this garbage??

 

[Riveting]

I come to this forum to get away from the pettiness of Facebook, and the drumbeat of agitation and argument permeating most of social media, and discuss Purdue University Football.

What is this garbage??

The original post was sort of cfb related, but then veered off into a very dark corner of cfb .

btw, why are you involved in the pettiness of facebook in the first place?

 

[mediaexpert]

I come to this forum to get away from the pettiness of Facebook, and the drumbeat of agitation and argument permeating most of social media, and discuss Purdue University Football.

What is this garbage??

My observation of Purdue Football is that we have had more than our fair share of football injuries to key players. I suggested that as fans we pray for the health of our players.

Druid made some interesting points about theology and I was happy to discuss.

Riveting made an opinion about a Big 10 Football Coach and I wanted to explain the facts.

There is a man facing life in prison for trying to help at-risk boys. He received a much longer sentence than child rapists who were either caught in the act or admitted their rape, I pray that no one ever accuses you of a crime that you did not commit. If that happens, I believe that you would want someone like me explaining the facts. I am sorry you felt this is an agitation and did not stop reading when the subject veered off from football. There is a good chance I have been following Purdue football longer than you, but there are other things in life that I will try to answer if I think I can help.

 

[Riveting]

My observation of Purdue Football is that we have had more than our fair share of football injuries to key players. I suggested that as fans we pray for the health of our players.

Druid made some interesting points about theology and I was happy to discuss.

Riveting made an opinion about a Big 10 Football Coach and I wanted to explain the facts.

There is a man facing life in prison for trying to help at-risk boys. He received a much longer sentence than child rapists who were either caught in the act or admitted their rape, I pray that no one ever accuses you of a crime that you did not commit. If that happens, I believe that you would want someone like me explaining the facts. I am sorry you felt this is an agitation and did not stop reading when the subject veered off from football. There is a good chance I have been following Purdue football longer than you, but there are other things in life that I will try to answer if I think I can help.

You wanted to explain the 'facts' that Sandusky's legal team could not explain and a jury could not believe.

 

[mediaexpert]

You wanted to explain the 'facts' that Sandusky's legal team could not explain and a jury could not believe.

As I said the media had a lot to do with this. ESPN went crazy over Scott Paterno calling Sandusky a monster and soon the other media chimed in so it became 24/7 attacks on Joe with everyone assuming Sandusky was guilty. What everyone wanted to know was how Joe Paterno, the legend, was in the media's reality a pedophile enabler. The center of the media's highlights was enlarging McQueary's testimony that he saw Sandusky rape a child in the PSU shower room. Everyone could picture a large man doing this to THEIR kid.

At the trial, Sandusky's lawyer concentrated on blowing up the McQueary eyewitness account. They showed how McQueary had many versions. He admitted IN COURT that he really didn't see rape only them together and they proved that from where McQueary said he witnessed it from the locker room that there was no way he could see into the showers. The jury concluded that this was just horseplay which is pretty much the story McQueary told his father, the family Doctor, Joe, and the heads at PSU.

The attorney had asked and was denied more time to research the "victims" testimony and it was refused so he pretty much did not cross examine them. John Ziegler, an investigative journalist, did in-depth analysis of the testimony and shredded almost all of it. Please research his work. If there was more time o prepare what Ziegler had was extraordinary.

If the jury acquitted Sandusky, they would be known as pedophile enables IMO and so they convicted him on the victims testimony and what turned out to be the janitor's bogus hearsay testimony.

Your best argument would be why the courts in PA have not held a second trial. All I know is rumors I hear that the Judicial System in PA is corrupt.

 

[TMFT]

As I said the media had a lot to do with this. ESPN went crazy over Scott Paterno calling Sandusky a monster and soon the other media chimed in so it became 24/7 attacks on Joe with everyone assuming Sandusky was guilty. What everyone wanted to know was how Joe Paterno, the legend, was in the media's reality a pedophile enabler. The center of the media's highlights was enlarging McQueary's testimony that he saw Sandusky rape a child in the PSU shower room. Everyone could picture a large man doing this to THEIR kid.

At the trial, Sandusky's lawyer concentrated on blowing up the McQueary eyewitness account. They showed how McQueary had many versions. He admitted IN COURT that he really didn't see rape only them together and they proved that from where McQueary said he witnessed it from the locker room that there was no way he could see into the showers. The jury concluded that this was just horseplay which is pretty much the story McQueary told his father, the family Doctor, Joe, and the heads at PSU.

The attorney had asked and was denied more time to research the "victims" testimony and it was refused so he pretty much did not cross examine them. John Ziegler, an investigative journalist, did in-depth analysis of the testimony and shredded almost all of it. Please research his work. If there was more time o prepare what Ziegler had was extraordinary.

If the jury acquitted Sandusky, they would be known as pedophile enables IMO and so they convicted him on the victims testimony and what turned out to be the janitor's bogus hearsay testimony.

Your best argument would be why the courts in PA have not held a second trial. All I know is rumors I hear that the Judicial System in PA is corrupt.

Name a single juror. You can’t. Because that shit isn’t public. There is/was no pressure on jurors to be known as anything.

Moderators should lock this garbage thread that started with a self centered view of which religions matter and how much God cares about football and morphed into a defense of a monster based on a self-proclaimed expert’s research on a trial that ended in multiple convictions.

 

[FirstDownB]

Name a single juror. You can’t. Because that shit isn’t public. There is/was no pressure on jurors to be known as anything.

Moderators should lock this garbage thread that started with a self centered view of which religions matter and how much God cares about football and morphed into a defense of a monster based on a self-proclaimed expert’s research on a trial that ended in multiple convictions.

I'll second that motion. This has been a strange week of posting around here. I'm nervous about what the bye week is going to look like.

 

[mediaexpert]

Name a single juror. You can’t. Because that shit isn’t public. There is/was no pressure on jurors to be known as anything.

Moderators should lock this garbage thread that started with a self centered view of which religions matter and how much God cares about football and morphed into a defense of a monster based on a self-proclaimed expert’s research on a trial that ended in multiple convictions.

You obviously have no idea how advertising or propaganda works. It is not one person worried about being called a pedophile enabler, it is the community or the market. As I said earlier, people buy and drink poison or buy things they don't need and some afterwards say they never saw the product or service advertised. This is exactly how advertising or propaganda works. It influences your decision making and you don't even know it.

Do you have any idea how many judicial convictions are overturned? Maybe you should do some research.

If you go back and read my posts again you would see that I did not specify any religion. I responded to another poster's questions to show that it included the majority of religious people in the US.

It sound like you may be a professor who is against praying and would rather live in a robotic society where the government tells you what to do and think. And if they decree someone is guilty, then their word goes and you cannot dispute it. Good luck in that world but I have had friends who lived in those countries and I hope you get to move somewhere where you can experience it.

One thing I want to be clear about is that even though Sandusky's heart was in the right position I do think that he went beyond boundaries. And there should have be some consequence to his actions. And I am fine giving those child rapist caught in the act or who admitted to these terrific acts 30 year prison terms.