What happens on Sunday if.....
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yes, he'll opt for a double instead of a single.
Likely scenario: Phone calls and feelers will get more active as the losses pile up. Any actual moves will be held until the end of the season. An interim coaching situation doesn't really benefit the program unless you are considering promotion from within and want to give somebody a trial run. And I really hope that option is not on MBob's radar screen.
No matter what, the coach doesn't get fired until November.
This is a key part of the schedule with 3 winnable games back to back to back. If we don't nab at least 2, pretty clear what direction we are headed in.
Have to play well, but there's a legitimate opportunity to be 4-1 leaving this stretch of games. If so, Hazell probably stays. If not, we are likely to not make a bowl.
Lots of football left to be played this year.
This is a key part of the schedule with 3 winnable games back to back to back. If we don't nab at least 2, pretty clear what direction we are headed in.
Have to play well, but there's a legitimate opportunity to be 4-1 leaving this stretch of games. If so, Hazell probably stays. If not, we are likely to not make a bowl.
Lots of football left to be played this year.
7-32 and counting! If Illinois beats us, then the cat is gone! If Hazell, his coaches and players dont know what s going on at Purdue, they are dumb as rocks. One of the things that appeals to me about a midseason firing is the openness of it. The message is that we arent fooling around and we arent sacrificing good ole Darryl behind his back.
Another interesting line here is the involvement of the BOT...That mysterious group of administrators who actually run the university. Bergoff recently has stated the Hazell is his man. There is also heat from the alumni on the Trustees for like maybe the first time ever? The BOT hired Cordova and approved all the refunding out of the Athletic Department since the late 50's. In my mind, the BOT doesnt react well to criticism and it will be interesting to see what happens going forward? My guess is that the BOT will simply clamup and hide?
Who would belive that such a great University could only hope for mediocrity?
Another interesting line here is the involvement of the BOT...That mysterious group of administrators who actually run the university. Bergoff recently has stated the Hazell is his man. There is also heat from the alumni on the Trustees for like maybe the first time ever? The BOT hired Cordova and approved all the refunding out of the Athletic Department since the late 50's. In my mind, the BOT doesnt react well to criticism and it will be interesting to see what happens going forward? My guess is that the BOT will simply clamup and hide?
Who would belive that such a great University could only hope for mediocrity?
You are correct about the opportunity being there for 4 and 1 after the next three games ,but if that happens,I will be shocked.
I think the most realistic situation is that Hazell is notified and it leaks the week of the IU game. I would say this could potentially be used to get some momentum heading in to what could possibly be IU playing for their bowl lives and Purdue trying steal one from IU instead of letting them win 4 in a row (for the first time since the 40's). I think that would be the earliest we would hear about it but wouldn't be surprised if Hazell was notified earlier in the year if things get out of control, as the OP proposed. The issue is that there is bound to be some good recruits that Hazell has gotten a verbal from and a new coach needs to be given the proper timeline to keep the ones he wants and go out and find new ones for his system. That can't really be done by a coach in season, unless the coach is currently not coaching...which would be a disaster for Purdue unless you are talking a former NFL coach or Art Briles.
If MBob can secure Briles as the HC early on, I see no reason to keep Hazell around and give the HC to Malone or Freeman. Hire Briles as a part of the staff that allows him to recruit and send him out with as many resources as you can surround him with to start securing recruits. The situation I have explained would probably be the most ideal but involves Purdue getting Briles first. I doubt they are able to get him and will more than likely be looking a Fleck or another current HC or upper-tier OC.
If MBob can secure Briles as the HC early on, I see no reason to keep Hazell around and give the HC to Malone or Freeman. Hire Briles as a part of the staff that allows him to recruit and send him out with as many resources as you can surround him with to start securing recruits. The situation I have explained would probably be the most ideal but involves Purdue getting Briles first. I doubt they are able to get him and will more than likely be looking a Fleck or another current HC or upper-tier OC.
Agree. We need to see how the next three games go. But I do think Nevada is a must win to show the program has any signs of life.
At this point, my interest is piqued as to what these tape reviews are actually like. I kind of want to watch one with DH2 leading it.
As I've said before, unless DH can pull a miracle, beat a bunch of teams he's not supposed to beat and get to a bowl, he's gone. Based on past and current performance, the likelihood of this team winning a bunch of games is highly, highly unlikely.
Why delay the inevitable? If MBob is really serious about changing the football program, put your money where your mouth is and pull the trigger.
Why delay the inevitable? If MBob is really serious about changing the football program, put your money where your mouth is and pull the trigger.
There is absolutely no upside to doing so even if what you have deemed as inevitable does come to fruition.
IMO --- it's always better to win, especially against beatable opponents.
First, losing to Nevada, Illinois, and Maryland might seal Haze's fate, but it also deepens the hole in which the program finds itself.
Second, the players need some confidence going into October and November. Bagging one or more of the next three games could provide that.
Third, Haze could still be gone if the team flat lines in the second half of the season, especially against Indiana. I don't think a 2-1 start or even 3-1 or 4-1 guarantees Haze another season.
Legit opportunity???? Hardly. Opportunity....maybe. But to date I've seen nothing that would indicate this team can win two more let alone three. The guy sucks as a coach, and as a recruiter, and should have been fired at the end of last year.
I don't think we are good...but we are better than you think. Legitimate opportunity to win the next 3. Also a legitimate opportunity to lose out. That's why we play the games.
This. There's no upside to just cashing in the season. Play the games. See what happens. If we don't win 6, move on. But start making your list now of who you want to talk to; I suspect Mb2 already has.
And if some miracle happens and we make a bowl game, Hazel gets another year and maybe even an extension (as long as it lowers the buyout too).
Those are the two options for the year.
Amen. It's not over until the fat lady sings and if she does....the heads will roll.
If we go to a bowl, extend him, lower his buyout and spread it out over a longer term. See if we build/grow and if not, let him go and now you owe him potentially less $$$ over more time.
If we win 5 or less....time to move on. Never has the choice or options the AD has been so clear.
Umm, the rest of the year? He's our coach until then. The list of coaches who didn't hit their stride until the 4th or 5th year is a long one. Of course, I fully expect to fire Hazell at year's end. But, per the point made above, even a mediocre B1G team should be able to win some games the rest of the year. I'm anxious to see it play out.
Maybe start with telling us how bad we are compared to each of our upcoming games? How many do you think we will win?
I've said from pre-season that this DH coached team will win a max of three, and could win as few as one. One of us will be right at the end of the year. If both tackles miss this weekend, it could get "ugly early".
I just don't see recruiting or coaching at the D1 level to ever be a DH attribute. For his tenure at West Laffy, Purdue has been dead last in recruiting....and pretty much all facets of the game.
Fair enough. You might be right, in which case we will be getting a new coach. He might be better than DH2.
Nothing happens till season over
DH's first term and only term in office is over!!!! As stated our style is not to fire someone mid season because you really gain nothing by it. The interim coach will not be a candidate for the HC job,so our administration will ride it out and BOB will begin the search after we lay another egg at some point soon,maybe it is this Saturday.
The administration and BOT will see the attendance figures continue to slide as the season crumbles right in front of their eyes again!!! You have to pay for the new facilities and football budget somehow and putting a lot fannies in the seats is the how you do it. While as HC, Dh averaged 48k fans the first year, which was bolstered by ND at Ross Ade. 2014 he was the National Champion of attendance drop 28% to 35k a game. Last year 37k a game which VT(45K) bought more tickets then we did. So the problem is its going to get worse this year and dropping attendance along with a 2-10 record will doom this administration. BOT cannot ignore these numbers and they are not getting any better. Sit tight grind your teeth on Saturdays and wait for BOB to make the change at the end of the year. i believe he will get the right guy for the JOB!!
And here's the scary part.....the new coach may turn out to be just like DH.....or worse.
