Was Walters Really Bobinski's Choice?

[cantonman2]

I read an article today that indicated Bobinski was told to hire Walters. Walters was not his first choice, it was Tyson Helton of Western Kentucky but he was overruled. Have no
idea if that's true or not, but it makes sense. So whomever decided that Walters was to be the HC not only put the program back at least 3 years but also peed away 9 million dollars, which Purdue can ill afford to lose!

 

[bonefish1]

I read an article today that indicated Bobinski was told to hire Walters. Walters was not his first choice, it was Tyson Helton of Western Kentucky but he was overruled. Have no
idea if that's true or not, but it makes sense. So whomever decided that Walters was to be the HC not only put the program back at least 3 years but also peed away 9 million dollars, which Purdue can ill afford to lose!

Tell me Grimes didn't have any influence on this.

 

[NVboiler]

When it comes to blame, I think that there are only a few people that know the actual story, and they're not likely to talk. If you're not directly very well connected with the program, anything is just a guess, whether wild or educated. Hopefully the people in charge will make the correct decision this time around.

 

[Indy_Rider]

Well, if that's the case I would think it would make this round easier and Bobinski just goes down to WKU and corrects the mistake by getting who wanted in the first place.

 

[Dreambig74]

I read an article today that indicated Bobinski was told to hire Walters. Walters was not his first choice, it was Tyson Helton of Western Kentucky but he was overruled. Have no
idea if that's true or not, but it makes sense. So whomever decided that Walters was to be the HC not only put the program back at least 3 years but also peed away 9 million dollars, which Purdue can ill afford to

Non football people making football decisions. Of course this could be true

 

[tgrizzy]

Its blatantly false. Bobinski is the overall decision maker, so any decision that is made is his decision. Nobody "tells" him what to do. He has two deputies and a collection of associate ADs who advise him, as well as the private research firm. Could some of these folks, including Grimes, advised him that Walters was the man for the job? Absolutely. But nobody tells him what to do and this idea the Grimes forced him into this decision is laugable.

People who want to make this connection are the same people pushing a non-reported, false narrative about his marriage.

 

[pboiler18]

Its blatantly false. Bobinski is the overall decision maker, so any decision that is made is his decision. Nobody "tells" him what to do. He has two deputies and a collection of associate ADs who advise him, as well as the private research firm. Could some of these folks, including Grimes, advised him that Walters was the man for the job? Absolutely. But nobody tells him what to do and this idea the Grimes forced him into this decision is laugable.

People who want to make this connection are the same people pushing a non-reported, false narrative about his marriage.

Found the AD Grimes burner.
@Bippus33
@New Pal Boiler
@BCfanatic2020

Interesting….

 

[FiveWeight]

So he either needs to fall on his sword, or viciously and public uproot and expose the problems that led to the university’s worst-ever athletic hire - like right now. And be brutally honest, humble and retrospectively self-critical for not having the perspective or stones to prevent what happened.

He has lost all trust. IMO this would be the only way to keep his job - and perhaps future career - without triggering a total alumni revolt. Otherwise every hire made through the rest of his tenure will face an uphill battle of skepticism if not controversy, and it will be warranted, even if seemingly unfair to hirees and candidates. We don’t need that crap hanging over the program. Something needs to break.

 

[tgrizzy]

Found the AD Grimes burner.
@Bippus33
@New Pal Boiler
@BCfanatic2020

Interesting….

Close. I'm actually Nojel Eastern's mother. This is like my third burner account in the Purdue forums since 2018. I just refuse to go away.

 

[pboiler18]

Close. I'm actually Nojel Eastern's mother. This is like my third burner account in the Purdue forums. I just refuse to go away.

That’s exactly what a diversity officer AAD would say…

And welcome. Drop us a hint when you find out who the hire is.

I only dropped the DEI stuff here to root out the moles. Once we found you, it all makes sense now.

 

[tgrizzy]

No problem. The next head coach will be Willie Simmons - Florida A&M

 

[TC4THREE]

Could some of these folks, including Grimes, advised him that Walters was the man for the job? Absolutely.

At the end of the day, Bobinski is responsible for the decision whether it was his or he deferred to others. Leaders delegate duties all the time. But when the duty is one of the most important you have and it goes bad, you usually go down with the ship. Unfortunately, not only do both Bobinski and Grimes still have jobs, they appear to be key people in bringing in Walters replacement.

Let us pray.

 

[pboiler18]

No problem. The next head coach will be Willie Simmons - Flordia A&M

Yall crushed it! Again!

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter whose fault(s) it was. What matters is that we right the ship with this hire.

 

[IronChefBBQ]

Well, if that's the case I would think it would make this round easier and Bobinski just goes down to WKU and corrects the mistake by getting who wanted in the first place.

Might not be possible now. The program isn’t Nearly as attractive now as it was after couple of years ago…

 

[FiveWeight]

At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter whose fault(s) it was. What matters is that we right the ship with this hire.

Couldn’t disagree more. Those who ignore accountability deserve what comes back to bite them again. We don’t deserve it, which means we need to hold the process and people accountable to get to the bottom of what went wrong. If they can’t be identified and own what they did, then the inevitable result will be severe mistrust and disillusionment, as well as a healthy dose of cynicism across all future hires.

I probably wouldn’t say that if we hadn’t just produced the most embarrassing season in Purdue’s sporting history, one that most of us saw coming when CRW was hired. But this was a really bad, foreseeable error. You can’t just say let the same people keep rolling the dice until you turn up a six and then forget everything else. Because even if they get lucky with the next hire, that approach won’t consistently result in the right outcome.

 

[Bippus33]

Its blatantly false. Bobinski is the overall decision maker, so any decision that is made is his decision. Nobody "tells" him what to do. He has two deputies and a collection of associate ADs who advise him, as well as the private research firm. Could some of these folks, including Grimes, advised him that Walters was the man for the job? Absolutely. But nobody tells him what to do and this idea the Grimes forced him into this decision is laugable.

People who want to make this connection are the same people pushing a non-reported, false narrative about his marriage.

What does Bobo's marriage have to do with picking the next football coach??!

 

[Dreambig74]

Its blatantly false. Bobinski is the overall decision maker, so any decision that is made is his decision. Nobody "tells" him what to do. He has two deputies and a collection of associate ADs who advise him, as well as the private research firm. Could some of these folks, including Grimes, advised him that Walters was the man for the job? Absolutely. But nobody tells him what to do and this idea the Grimes forced him into this decision is laugable.

People who want to make this connection are the same people pushing a non-reported, false narrative about his marriage.

Well does that make you worried?

 

[Gman544]

I read an article today that indicated Bobinski was told to hire Walters. Walters was not his first choice, it was Tyson Helton of Western Kentucky but he was overruled. Have no
idea if that's true or not, but it makes sense. So whomever decided that Walters was to be the HC not only put the program back at least 3 years but also peed away 9 million dollars, which Purdue can ill afford to lose!

Link?

 

[qazplm]

Its blatantly false. Bobinski is the overall decision maker, so any decision that is made is his decision. Nobody "tells" him what to do. He has two deputies and a collection of associate ADs who advise him, as well as the private research firm. Could some of these folks, including Grimes, advised him that Walters was the man for the job? Absolutely. But nobody tells him what to do and this idea the Grimes forced him into this decision is laugable.

People who want to make this connection are the same people pushing a non-reported, false narrative about his marriage.

It's the people who see DEI around every corner.

 

[TC4THREE]

It's the people who see DEI around every corner.

Funny. That's you.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

I read an article today that indicated Bobinski was told to hire Walters. Walters was not his first choice, it was Tyson Helton of Western Kentucky but he was overruled. Have no
idea if that's true or not, but it makes sense. So whomever decided that Walters was to be the HC not only put the program back at least 3 years but also peed away 9 million dollars, which Purdue can ill afford to lose!

So what you do is resign. There was someone in donations who immediately did so

 

[Bippus33]

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So he either needs to fall on his sword, or viciously and public uproot and expose the problems that led to the university’s worst-ever athletic hire - like right now. And be brutally honest, humble and retrospectively self-critical for not having the perspective or stones to prevent what happened.

He has lost all trust. IMO this would be the only way to keep his job - and perhaps future career - without triggering a total alumni revolt. Otherwise every hire made through the rest of his tenure will face an uphill battle of skepticism if not controversy, and it will be warranted, even if seemingly unfair to hirees and candidates. We don’t need that crap hanging over the program. Something needs to break.

Agreed, 5 pounder!
We are already precieved as the weakest P4 Football program in the nation who is in need of a coach..... Please, behind WVU and CFU!!!?
Bobo better knock this hire out of the park and have the collective support to go with it or perception will become reality....

 

[Wolegib]

I saw rumors that BOBO wanted to keep Walters around for another year but was ordered to fire him by the Purdue president. If this is true then the Purdue would also have influence and authority to tell BOBO. Who to hire as well.

 

[Bippus33]

I saw rumors that BOBO wanted to keep Walters around for another year but was ordered to fire him by the Purdue president. If this is true then the Purdue would also have influence and authority to tell BOBO. Who to hire as well.

Source of rumor?

 

[Wolegib]

Source of rumor?

This forum yesterday! You guys wouldn’t lie and spread misinformation would you? I read articles here, journal and courier, the star and yahoo.

 

[Gman544]

I saw rumors that BOBO wanted to keep Walters around for another year but was ordered to fire him by the Purdue president. If this is true then the Purdue would also have influence and authority to tell BOBO. Who to hire as well.

Likely getting slammed with calls, texts and emails from big donors pushed Bobo to the conclusion if he had not already decided after the IU beat down. I am sure the President and board member also were slammed. As for telling him who to hire. No. I heard somewhere that he is Obama's half brother, so he decided on his own. Also, no worries, Bobo is leaving to host American Idol. I read that somewhere that Katy Perry is taking his place, yes another DEI hire!

 

[RossMackey]

It’s very simple, people…

This is ALL explained on Hunter Biden’s laptop—

Wake up!!! our precious bodily fluids are being drained by the deep state!!!

 

[cantonman2]

That’s exactly what a diversity officer AAD would say…

And welcome. Drop us a hint when you find out who the hire is.

I only dropped the DEI stuff here to root out the moles. Once we found you, it all makes sense now.

It would be nice to know the real story, and if the choice was made for reasons other than ability, hopefully it will not happen again!

 

[qazplm]

It would be nice to know the real story, and if the choice was made for reasons other than ability, hopefully it will not happen again!

The "real story" is they tried to go cheap and hired someone who was talented but zero experience and it didn't work.

Has nothing to do with race, or DEI or woke or anything else folks have decided to blame everything they don't like on these days.

 

[Indy_Rider]

The "real story" is they tried to go cheap and hired someone who was talented but zero experience and it didn't work.

Has nothing to do with race, or DEI or woke or anything else folks have decided to blame everything they don't like on these days.

Yeah, it was high risk/high reward hire, and everyone knew that with Walters. We took a swing at what many thought could be the next bright and up and coming coach and struck out, now it's time for a safer bet.

Notre Dame essentially did the same thing with Freeman and it worked, so wasn't a completely ludicrous idea. But Freeman was on staff at ND and was able to keep some of the staff at ND, where Walters had to put together an entire staff.

 

[qazplm]

Yeah, it was high risk/high reward hire, and everyone knew that with Walters. We took a swing at what many thought could be the next bright and up and coming coach and struck out, now it's time for a safer bet.

Notre Dame essentially did the same thing with Freeman and it worked, so wasn't a completely ludicrous idea. But Freeman was on staff at ND and was able to keep some of the staff at ND, where Walters had to put together an entire staff.

Yes, besides lacking experience, he didn't bring a staff, didn't have the experience to know how to pick an offensive coordinator and didn't bring good players with him to fill in the gaps.

For his sake (and ours), he should have gone to a mid major, built up experience, and then gone higher but can't blame him for saying yes to the opportunity.

It was a risk, born of a desire to catch lightning in a very cheap bottle. Gonna have to spend this time.

 

[TC4THREE]

The "real story" is they tried to go cheap and hired someone who was talented but zero experience and it didn't work.

Has nothing to do with race, or DEI or woke or anything else folks have decided to blame everything they don't like on these days.

The reasons why Walters was selected are irrelevant. Clearly the reasons they chose him proved to be insufficient or just incorrect. Unfortunately, the people who chose last time will basically be the same people who choose this time. Let's all hope they learned something. But given they didn't really want to fire Walters, it seems more likely they still don't realize their mistakes.

 

[TC4THREE]

Yes, besides lacking experience, he didn't bring a staff, didn't have the experience to know how to pick an offensive coordinator and didn't bring good players with him to fill in the gaps.

For his sake (and ours), he should have gone to a mid major, built up experience, and then gone higher but can't blame him for saying yes to the opportunity.

It was a risk, born of a desire to catch lightning in a very cheap bottle. Gonna have to spend this time.

Or maybe he caught lightning in a bottle as Illinois DC by inheriting some NFL talent and playing in a Big Ten West without much in the way of good offenses. He parlayed that into a Big Ten head coaching job. It's possible that he will work his way back up into being a good head coach in a major conference someday but more than likely you were just wrong.

 

[Bippus33]

The "real story" is they tried to go cheap and hired someone who was talented but zero experience and it didn't work.

Has nothing to do with race, or DEI or woke or anything else folks have decided to blame everything they don't like on these days.

Talented...... ?

 

[qazplm]

Talented...... ?

Yes talented. He had multiple stops as a successful defense coordinator. One can be talented and fail miserably at something you don't have enough experience in.

 

[Bippus33]

Yes talented. He had multiple stops as a successful defense coordinator. One can be talented and fail miserably at something you don't have enough experience in.

The two Illinois defensive units that Walters coached were loaded with talented Lovie Smith recruits, numb nuts!

 

[qazplm]

The two Illinois defensive units that Walters coached were loaded with talented Lovie Smith recruits, numb nuts!

Ok to the ignore pile with you.

 

[Bippus33]

Ok to the ignore pile with you.

Thank God

 

[Dandelion1972]

Close. I'm actually Nojel Eastern's mother. This is like my third burner account in the Purdue forums since 2018. I just refuse to go away.

Their is no way your Nojel's mom she was VERY difficult to read almost impossible because of grammer, speling and lack of puncuation don't forget long-winded!