Eastern and Swanigan, yes. Kaufman hasn't committed. Did you mean Furst?
So how much success did IU and O$U have with their abundance of 5 stars relative to Purdue and Painter?
Well Ohio State has won the Big Ten 5 times, went to a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP game, went to an ADDITIONAL FINAL 4, and also have an additional Elite 8 in the time Painter has been the coach. I would say they have done pretty well with their elite talent.
eek as the head coach. You can't possibly tell me that had anything to do with his coaching. It was all to do with the talent he had.
All three students from my high school class that ended up enrolling at Rose-Hulman did not get accepted into Purdue. Rose-Hulman is a great school but their engineers have no reason to be arrogant.
You make a great point about Ohio State. Also a good point about the Tom Crean led Hoosiers. We had discussed that recruiting is a multifaceted activity. Let me add that no school spends money at the per capita rate that OSU does on their athletes. Tom Crean’s recruiting budget was the largest in the BIG. It seems some schools put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.Well Ohio State has won the Big Ten 5 times, went to a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP game, went to an ADDITIONAL FINAL 4, and also have an additional Elite 8 in the time Painter has been the coach. I would say they have done pretty well with their elite talent.
IU won the Big Ten 2 times and made 3 Sweet 16s with Tom Crean
For reference, Painter's won the Big Ten 3 times, been to the Sweet 16 5 times, and also has an Elite 8.
I never said Painter was under performing in results. However, better talent would lead to being a National Championship contender instead of being at the top of the Big Ten and fizzling out in the second weekend of the tournament. Painter is great at getting the most out of his players. We just need higher ceiling players.
Well Ohio State has won the Big Ten 5 times, went to a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP game, went to an ADDITIONAL FINAL 4, and also have an additional Elite 8 in the time Painter has been the coach. I would say they have done pretty well with their elite talent.
IU won the Big Ten 2 times and made 3 Sweet 16s with Tom Crean
For reference, Painter's won the Big Ten 3 times, been to the Sweet 16 5 times, and also has an Elite 8.
I never said Painter was under performing in results. However, better talent would lead to being a National Championship contender instead of being at the top of the Big Ten and fizzling out in the second weekend of the tournament. Painter is great at getting the most out of his players. We just need higher ceiling players.
We are really close. Ivey, Morton and Furst over the last two recruiting cycles represents an significant step up in talent. IMO, the next bump will come when we make the final four (notice I didn't say if). Then we can start legitimately competing for top 50 players ala Villanova, Gonzaga, etc.
Ivey, morton and furst is not a significant step up at all from anything we've previously seen. We've had had multiple teams with that type of talent before. Painter's problem has always been consistently keeping the talent level high. When it's not we have bad seasons just like last year.
Depending on what site you use. We add 2 additional 4 stars along with 2 from this class. We are adding a ton of talent along with a team that had its ups and downs, but played well sometimes. I think it's a pretty good string of 3 classes. I think CMP has figured out his recruiting issues.
Considering we just had a 16-15 year I would strongly disagree he's figured it out. And I still disagree with the original point that this is a significant upgrade of talent that we've never seen with painter. He's strung together good classes before. On paper 12,13, and 14 were all good. 3 years is far too small a sample size to say anything has been totally figured out.
I don't know if hes figured anything out but the talent definitely is getting better
Disagree. We've had carsen, haas, Dakota, vince and biggie all on the same team. That's 2 all Americans and another guy who was drafted by the rockets. Not sure how anyone can say we for sure have more talent than that until we least see them play.
2017 was our best class in recent years and 4-5 did not pan out. "Figuring it out" by the way he recruits and the type of kid he recruits. I trust CMP and believe he's the right guy at Purdue IMO.,
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I guess time will tell. Biggie was a 5* and Carsen was an exception. We shall see and i will hope for the best.
Lol. Nowhere did I ever say we should replace him. Not sure what your deal is? Painter has done some good things for sure, he also has some stuff he needs to work on.
I'm asking a question. You said it's been 15-16 years. So, I was just curious who you had in mind. Just a question and that's all.i could ask you the same.
Still ranked in the top 35 according to 247. Yes, size of the class helps, but he has changed his recruiting. IMO
Coach K as the head coach, brad Stevens, billy Donovan, and popovich as the assistants.
I'm going off of the philosophy of what some on here believe and that's a number by the ranking of a player. So, I did the same by the class. It actually means squat until the team actually performs at a high level.
Lol this sounds like an IU fan. Now, I know you have that in your name, but I get the joke.
I was born in Indiana, that's why i put hoosier, definitely not an IU fan. Same as people born in tennessee are "volunteers", even if they're not a UT fan.
Thanks for the laugh. Nice smile on a rainy day.
You sure? Bruce Pearl is better at what you seem to be looking for.
He's been clamoring for that for years for some reason. I mean at this point you just can't take leny seriously.
More importantly Lenny makes his point without pontificating.
The Kids you just named off how was the recruiting before they got here because I'm counting those kids to And If it was not for injury that team could have went Somewhere in the tournament. So yes I see recruiting getting a lot better
Simmer down tough guy. So, you don't believe people on this board thought Furst was trending to MSU? Just look at the thread. Doesn't matter he's a Boiler! I'm not sure what you're implying?
