UCLA at Purdue

[MichaelRR]

End of first quarter UCLA 29-Purdue 13.

Last play of the quarter was indicative of our collective basketball intelligence. Jones tried throwing a lazy cross court pass that Kiki Rice easily picked off and got the last shot of the quarter.

Oh, and McCarthy and Puryear both have 2 fouls..... Betts is just toying with Bass in the second quarter.

 

[ffangus]

I have no clue what has happened to Swanson. Two off the side of the backboard and at least one or two air balls. It is either a major slump or she has lost her confidence. She's not the only one who can't make a shot.

 

[MichaelRR]

Current 5:
Layden, Lombard, Swanson, Collier, and Puryear. Petree was out for a couple minutes and shot almost every time she touched the ball.... going 1-5. Swanson is also gunning it up but not hitting anything yet... 0-4 But this group seems to be playing better as a unit.

Halftime UCLA 44- Purdue 19

Jones was on the stationary bike when she came out.

 

[MichaelRR]

I have no clue what has happened to Swanson. Two off the side of the backboard and at least one or two air balls. It is either a major slump or she has lost her confidence. She's not the only one who can't make a shot.

I agree that there is something wrong with Swanson this year. But CKG keeps telling her, Collier, and Petree "keep shooting"

 

[ffangus]

I agree that there is something wrong with Swanson this year. But CKG keeps telling her, Collier, and Petree "keep shooting"

I think she is just pressing and not letting the game come to her and forcing up shots.

 

[MichaelRR]

63-32 after three quarters. Once again Amiyah starts, plays a few minutes and doesn't come back in for the next two quarters. McCarthy and Puryear both with 4 fouls, Betts is killing them and we are not doubling down to help the frosh posts.... DUMB!!!.

To me the 5 best players tonight are McCarthy (despite the fouls) Layden, Jones, Lombard, and either Puryear or Bass. Collier, Amiyah, and Petree are just awful and I have no clue why CKG relies on them so much when they consistently do NOTHING against good teams.

Swanson and Layden are just so much more active on defense than anyone else we send out there.

 

[MichaelRR]

6:13 left in the 4th and both Puryear and McCarthy have fouled out.....

 

[MichaelRR]

83-49 final. Once again Purdue cannot break 50 points this season. I do not understand the choices for who starts, I do not understand the player rotations, I do not understand so much about what CKG thinks she is doing with this team.

Lombard, Swanson, Layden, Jones, Puryear, and McCarthy are the most active and aggressive players on both ends of the floor.

Bass, Collier and Amiyah seem to just be coasting out there playing with little effort or passion. Petree is just out there to shoot, every chance she gets, good, bad, early or late in the shot clock; she's putting it up every time she gets the smallest opening.

 

[purduedavie]

83-49 final. Once again Purdue cannot break 50 points this season. I do not understand the choices for who starts, I do not understand the player rotations, I do not understand so much about what CKG thinks she is doing with this team.

Lombard, Swanson, Layden, Jones, Puryear, and McCarthy are the most active and aggressive players on both ends of the floor.

Bass, Collier and Amiyah seem to just be coasting out there playing with little effort or passion. Petree is just out there to shoot, every chance she gets, good, bad, early or late in the shot clock; she's putting it up every time she gets the smallest opening.

How you watch this crap is beyond me, I watched 1 game, it was brutally bad.

 

[rgarlitz]

I just don't know how Katie Gearlds survives this year. I wanted it to work. I hoped she would grow into the job. But, wow, this is an unmitigated disaster. Purdue is winless against the top-3 quadrants and sits twenty spots below Purdue-Fort Wayne in the NET.

And like football, the team hasn't even competed against quality opponents.

I honestly don't know how much of this to pin directly on Gearlds. As an outsider, it's hard to say what part of this is coaching, what part is injuries to younger players, what part is NIL, and what part is athletic department priorities.

Our portal transfers (outside of Lombard) seem to be a hope and a prayer. Maybe that's the best Purdue could afford. Maybe that's the best Gearlds could attract.

I know this much: Purdue has four flagship sports right now--football, men's basketball, women's basketball, and volleyball. The two led by elite veteran coaches are thriving. The two led (or formerly led) by project coaches are struggling mightily.

 

[BoilerPride08]

Fans are hilarous.

Wow, lets melt down over a completely expected result. UCLA is the deepest, most talented team in the country right now. No one in their right mind thought we'd get closer to 20 against them considering how we are playing. Losing by 34 was actually a win. Considering past performances.

I, for one, am completely SHOCKED that two true freshmen, 3* HS prospects, were unable to be productive against the top post player in the country, standing at 6'7, and most likely future top 3 or top WNBA pick.

UCLA is MILES AND MILES deeper and more talented than we are. Michael thinks he can coach the talent we have and be more competitive against them. We have John Wooden reincarnated posting on this board - who has never coached one game in his life! CRAZY!!!

 

[Gesysp]

I have to be honest, I'm getting tired of the NIL excuses. While realizing Purdue may not yet be all-in on NIL for women's sports, that still doesn't justify just how bad we are this year. This team has zero identity, no passion, no ability (or desire?) to raise their energy level - they just go through the motions and move up and down the court. It's shocking how bad they are, and they'd probably get their butts kicked by some Indiana high school teams. I don't expect Bobinski to do anything about the coach until the current contract expires in 28-29. I guess by then, with Reynolds and Gordon, we may see some improvement though. But what a disappointing time for Purdue WBB.

 

[Gesysp]

Fans are hilarous.

Wow, lets melt down over a completely expected result. UCLA is the deepest, most talented team in the country right now. No one in their right mind thought we'd get closer to 20 against them considering how we are playing. Losing by 34 was actually a win. Considering past performances.

I, for one, am completely SHOCKED that two true freshmen, 3* HS prospects, were unable to be productive against the top post player in the country, standing at 6'7, and most likely future top 3 or top WNBA pick.

UCLA is MILES AND MILES deeper and more talented than we are. Michael thinks he can coach the talent we have and be more competitive against them. We have John Wooden reincarnated posting on this board - who has never coached one game in his life! CRAZY!!!

Well, we used to be able to say WE were one of the deepest, most talented teams in the country, so i understand everyone's frustration. It's a shame how our program has fallen apart over the past 15 years, and there's not much reason to believe we can turn the corner anytime soon.

 

[BoilerPride08]

Well, we used to be able to say WE were one of the deepest, most talented teams in the country, so i understand everyone's frustration. It's a shame how our program has fallen apart over the past 15 years, and there's not much reason to believe we can turn the corner anytime soon.

Wow - no high school or college kid right now remembers a time when Purdue was nationally relevant. It's ancient history. You have to sell them on something more than that. KG tried to sell them on her playing career - news flash - no playing college ball remembers any of that.

 

[rgarlitz]

Fans are hilarous.

Wow, lets melt down over a completely expected result. UCLA is the deepest, most talented team in the country right now. No one in their right mind thought we'd get closer to 20 against them considering how we are playing. Losing by 34 was actually a win. Considering past performances.

I, for one, am completely SHOCKED that two true freshmen, 3* HS prospects, were unable to be productive against the top post player in the country, standing at 6'7, and most likely future top 3 or top WNBA pick.

UCLA is MILES AND MILES deeper and more talented than we are. Michael thinks he can coach the talent we have and be more competitive against them. We have John Wooden reincarnated posting on this board - who has never coached one game in his life! CRAZY!!!

I get where you're coming from, but to me it's more than just UCLA. Purdue hasn't beaten anybody outside of Quad 4 this year. Should that ever be the case with a B1G team? (In fairness, it's been either brutality or cupcakes so far this season. Purdue has played 7 Quad 1 games, 7 Quad 4 games, and only 1 in the middle two quads).

I just marvel at how it's gotten to be this bad.

 

[BoilerPride08]

I get where you're coming from, but to me it's more than just UCLA. Purdue hasn't beaten anybody outside of Quad 4 this year. Should that ever be the case with a B1G team? (In fairness, it's been either brutality or cupcakes so far this season. Purdue has played 7 Quad 1 games, 7 Quad 4 games, and only 1 in the middle two quads).

I just marvel at how it's gotten to be this bad.

There are actually a few BIG 10 teams and several P4 teams that would lose to the likes of:

Notre Dame
South Carolina
UCLA
MSU
Ohio State
Kentucky
Iowa


The only loss I'm extremely mad about is MTSU - and the 30 pt home Kentucky loss - considering Belmont almost beat the Cats the following game. No way we should be losing by 30 to a borderline top 25 team at home. Every other loss - while discouraging - was pretty obviously going to happen considering the talent we have on this team.

 

[rgarlitz]

There are actually a few BIG 10 teams and several P4 teams that would lose to the likes of:

Notre Dame
South Carolina
UCLA
MSU
Ohio State
Kentucky
Iowa


The only loss I'm extremely mad about is MTSU - and the 30 pt home Kentucky loss - considering Belmont almost beat the Cats the following game. No way we should be losing by 30 to a borderline top 25 team at home. Every other loss - while discouraging - was pretty obviously going to happen considering the talent we have on this team.

Lose some, absolutely.
Lose most, probably.
But lose them all? And by an average of 29 points?
And, Purdue wasn't especially dominant in several of its Q4 wins.

 

[Gesysp]

Lose some, absolutely.
Lose most, probably.
But lose them all? And by an average of 29 points?
And, Purdue wasn't especially dominant in several of its Q4 wins.

and the MSU game (maybe even Iowa) wasn't even as close as the final score indicated.

 

[BoilerPride08]

Did you guys think that by just coming to Purdue these kids were going to be able to compete with these teams?!?

Average high schools recruits

Average Portal commits.

We are playing two freshmen PG and 2 true freshmen make up the majority of our post game.

Yes. If someone said we'd lose to all of those teams I most definitely would not blink an eye.

This is not me trying to excuse the job KG has done in composing this team. But some of you are acting like this is just completely unforeseen event that has transpired.

 

[Gesysp]

Nope, knew the season was going to be a struggle, but didn't exactly expect the disaster we're seeing so far. Either way, isn't that why we have message boards?

 

[BoilerPride08]

Nope, knew the season was going to be a struggle, but didn't exactly expect the disaster we're seeing so far. Either way, isn't that why we have message boards?

Coming into this season I was hoping that we could be 8-7 at this point - only loss I was really hoping for a W being MTSU.

I didn't see us coming close to competing with truly ELITE teams in UCLA, ND, SC (expecting MAJOR blow outs to all) . Didn't see us beating MSU or Iowa on the road. Was hoping to at least play with them....

I knew UK was going to be super good with their new HC and all the talent he instantly brought with him. (Gee... Imagine that. Investing in a coach that can actually bring elite talent with him from a prior spot...) - but I didn't see us losing by 30. Major disappointment. I thought maybe we could potentially upset MD at home, considering all their new parts, and we at least competed with them.

So yeah - I was hoping for 8-7.... MAYBE 9-6 if we could've upset UK or MD at home.

 

[Gesysp]

For me, it's not necessarily the losses - it's the margin of the losses, the lack of fundamentals, and the fact we aren't even close to being competitive in those losses.

 

[tomgloe]

Coming into this season I was hoping that we could be 8-7 at this point - only loss I was really hoping for a W being MTSU.

I didn't see us coming close to competing with truly ELITE teams in UCLA, ND, SC (expecting MAJOR blow outs to all) . Didn't see us beating MSU or Iowa on the road.

I knew UK was going to be super good with their new HC and all the talent he instantly brought with him. (Gee... Imagine that. Investing in a coach that can actually bring elite talent with him from a prior spot...) - but I didn't see us losing by 30. Major disappointment. I thought maybe we could potentially upset MD at home, considering all their new parts, and we at least competed with them.

So yeah - I was hoping for 8-7.... MAYBE 9-6 if we could've upset UK or MD at home.

Yeah I don't think the record is far off from realistic expectations going into the year. I expected to be more competitive in some of these games, but we haven't been. We have played a brutal schedule. The 6th toughest schedule as of now. When all is said and done, that UK team will probably be a top 15 team this year.

The only loss we shouldn't of had was to mtsu.. and they may win close to 30 games.

All that said, and maybe it was because I came in with no expectations last night, I was encouraged by some players and am looking forward to Saturday against Michigan.

Schedule is going to lighten up and we'll finally go up against peer opponents(ILL,NEB,Wisconsin, etc).

 

[MichaelRR]

It's not the losses, it's the lack of identity, lack of hustle, and lack of fundamentals. Its bizarre choices of who to play and start that seems completely unrelated to their ability to play the game as a unit. Additionally it's CKGs continued devotion to playing her portal players instead of developing the pronouncement.

I posted couple years ago that if we were going to get better, CKG needed to put down the portal crack pipe and play the younger players to develop them so we could start having continuity year over year. But SOMEONE laughed at that and said that was foolish, building through the portal was the new preferred way to go and we would easily be better than UWisc that is going the way of the slow and steady build up through high school recruiting. Of course same soul said CKG would only recruit three level scorers and big immobile true posts would not be in our future..... lol. Same soul also said CKGs 8 years as an NAIA coach was as good our better than Ralph and Moseley's experience as D1 assistants. He's singing a different tune now and would have you forget those previous pronouncements.

What is CKGs focus for this team? What one thing are we good at that is the teams identity? What is her plan for developing the young players? Its year four and we know none of that because so far there is no evidence she has an effective plan.

 

[tomgloe]

I just don't know how Katie Gearlds survives this year. I wanted it to work. I hoped she would grow into the job. But, wow, this is an unmitigated disaster. Purdue is winless against the top-3 quadrants and sits twenty spots below Purdue-Fort Wayne in the NET.

And like football, the team hasn't even competed against quality opponents.

I honestly don't know how much of this to pin directly on Gearlds. As an outsider, it's hard to say what part of this is coaching, what part is injuries to younger players, what part is NIL, and what part is athletic department priorities.

Our portal transfers (outside of Lombard) seem to be a hope and a prayer. Maybe that's the best Purdue could afford. Maybe that's the best Gearlds could attract.

I know this much: Purdue has four flagship sports right now--football, men's basketball, women's basketball, and volleyball. The two led by elite veteran coaches are thriving. The two led (or formerly led) by project coaches are struggling mightily.

She'll be back next season. She just signed an extension, and her buyout is 2 mil right now. 1.6 in the summer of this season.

I'd say after next season is the earliest that she would be let go(barring off the court issues), but even that's up in the air. Might have to wait until the new AD comes in.

 

[jbvazq234]

For me, it's not necessarily the losses - it's the margin of the losses, the lack of fundamentals, and the fact we aren't even close to being competitive in those losses.

We are 7 and 8 with 1 bad loss. MTS was disappointing to say the least. I wonder if purdue was looking ahead to the south carolina game and were trapped. Although we still have 3 currently teams left in the schedule only 2 of them are top ten teams. There are also some good teams (indiana, Washington Illinois to name a few. But there are some teams whose schedules haven’t been as brutal as ours. How we do against those will be a better yardstick about where Purdue actually is as a tram. We will see. If we can hold our young players and the incoming freshmen are as good as advertised, we may be ready to turn the corner.
UCLA has 7 burger girls in that monster team. Michigan will be bringing only 3. I think our last recruit to play in the McDonald’s all american game was actually our current coach. So there is a lot of blame to be sorted out before we get to KG. Better days are ahead. Tomorrow the sun will rise again ( unless it goes nova and shows us how Important all this really is). So boiler up!