Tuskegee Airmen will no longer be taught to Air Force recruits

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I fully agree that one of us is wacked out. I was an active duty US Army officer for 28 years and retired at the rank of Colonel (O-6). The only uniform you ever wore was Cub Scouts or maybe high school band while the studs were playing football. I said nothing whatever about "getting rid" of fighter jets or anything else. We need to stop procuring aircraft carriers, tanks and fighter jets because drone/missile technology has made all of them obsolete. We don't get rid of them, we just don't buy any more. We should focus DOD on the drone and missile development that will win the next war. Ditto the much ridiculed "Star Wars."

Then you should know that new weapon systems; including the ones you speak of, are developed everyday. Why do you think Lockheed is doing, making paper airplanes? Then take years to implement, pay for and deliver. By that time Hegseth will be long gone from the Pentagon.

 

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For FUKKS SAKE! The reason why we say DEI this and DEI that about Biden's hires are because:

1. Biden himself stated the number one qualification was skin color, THEREFORE it's more than likely the best person for the job was overlooked. IF the best person was a black lesbian woman then that's who it was, but that's not how that brain dead imbecile hired and it showed!
2. These people he hired were SHIIT at their job!
3. MANY of them should have been fired because they were so shiit at their job, but Biden refused to fire anyone

You have no F'ing clue what Hegseth's qualifications are so you're here bitching. Perhaps his best qualification for what we need is the fact that he isn't tied to the military industrial complex, but has enough military knowledge to know how to move our military forward.

If it was a black man, you wouldn't say shiit. Even if it was Hank "Guam is going to capsize and tip over" Johnson. That guy is another example of DEI and a testament to how stupid Democrat voters can be.

Hegseth only job that he was selected for is to do what they are doing now. Get rid of all of the DEI and other stuff Chump deems need to go. Hegseth was not selected to run the US armed forces like that position requires.

 

[Riveting]

I fully agree that one of us is wacked out. I was an active duty US Army officer for 28 years and retired at the rank of Colonel (O-6). The only uniform you ever wore was Cub Scouts or maybe high school band while the studs were playing football. I said nothing whatever about "getting rid" of fighter jets or anything else. We need to stop procuring aircraft carriers, tanks and fighter jets because drone/missile technology has made all of them obsolete. We don't get rid of them, we just don't buy any more. We should focus DOD on the drone and missile development that will win the next war. Ditto the much ridiculed "Star Wars."

Thanks. By obsolete I thought you meant they are no longer of use. Their value is declining, but still useful against Iran, possibly Mexican cartels, and other enemies.

 

[Quix0te]

Then you should know that new weapon systems; including the ones you speak of, are developed everyday. Why do you think Lockheed is doing, making paper airplanes? Then take years to implement, pay for and deliver. By that time Hegseth will be long gone from the Pentagon.

We currently have ten (10!) aircraft carriers on order (link 1). At the same time we know full well that China, Russia and Iran all have hypersonic missiles that can take them out (link 2). And today's hypersonics are Mach 5 (a bullet from a rifle flies at Mach 3). This will soon increase to Mach 10 and some of the development is being done at a Purdue/ND joint lab facility (link 3).

Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier - Wikipedia

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Can Iran's Missiles Send U.S. Navy Aircraft Carriers Underwater?

Here’s What You Need to Remember: The Khalij Fars has one-quarter the DF-21’s range at 190 to 220 miles, and relatedly doesn’t fly as high or fast, with a lower maximum speed of Mach 3 as it plunges towards its target. Thus the Khalij Fars would likely prove easier to intercept with defensive...

nationalinterest.org

US gets wind tunnel to test hypersonic power at 10 times speed of sound

The Mach 10 quiet wind tunnel of University of Notre Dame can simulate hypersonic flight at higher speeds and benefit scientists working in this field.

interestingengineering.com

 

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We currently have ten (10!) aircraft carriers on order (link 1). At the same time we know full well that China, Russia and Iran all have hypersonic missiles that can take them out (link 2). And today's hypersonics are Mach 5 (a bullet from a rifle flies at Mach 3). This will soon increase to Mach 10 and some of the development is being done at a Purdue/ND joint lab facility (link 3).

Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Can Iran's Missiles Send U.S. Navy Aircraft Carriers Underwater?

Here’s What You Need to Remember: The Khalij Fars has one-quarter the DF-21’s range at 190 to 220 miles, and relatedly doesn’t fly as high or fast, with a lower maximum speed of Mach 3 as it plunges towards its target. Thus the Khalij Fars would likely prove easier to intercept with defensive...

nationalinterest.org

US gets wind tunnel to test hypersonic power at 10 times speed of sound

The Mach 10 quiet wind tunnel of University of Notre Dame can simulate hypersonic flight at higher speeds and benefit scientists working in this field.

interestingengineering.com

Looks like we have hypersonic weapons in the works. What’s your point?

 

[Quix0te]

Looks like we have hypersonic weapons in the works. What’s your point?

Repeat for the retard: "We currently have ten (10!) aircraft carriers on order."

 

[Riveting]

Hegseth only job that he was selected for is to do what they are doing now. Get rid of all of the DEI and other stuff Chump deems need to go. Hegseth was not selected to run the US armed forces like that position requires.

Trump wants someone who is not a toady for the mil/industrial/war machine establishment like Austin was.

 

[Riveting]

We currently have ten (10!) aircraft carriers on order (link 1). At the same time we know full well that China, Russia and Iran all have hypersonic missiles that can take them out (link 2). And today's hypersonics are Mach 5 (a bullet from a rifle flies at Mach 3). This will soon increase to Mach 10 and some of the development is being done at a Purdue/ND joint lab facility (link 3).

More reason for Israel and/or US to crush the Iranian military and regime.

 

[tjreese]

Now I see it. My bad.

To be clear, I have not mentioned DEI once in this thread. Choosing Hegseth has nothing to do with DEI........other than one of the reasons he was chosen was to end it.

You believe his selection is merit based. From what I can tell, the arguments against DEI from your side say that people should be selected because they are the best qualified.

How is Pete more qualified than any other former army Major? Colonel? General? Has he been in charge of any large organizations? His positions at various veterans groups resulted in demotions and forced resignations. His best job since his military career appears to be the Fox News weekend gig. Please tell me how his appointment is merit based considering all the above.

I was not accusing you of using DEI. In "ANY" appointment or hire things may or may not work out and that can happen whether the person in question has a litany of various accomplishments that no doubt some would weigh differently. When things don't work out and the person does not fall inside the DEI group (If DEI is at a time of usage), then that person can be considered a bad hire...a bad choice, and perhaps a surprise since the hire or appointment was considered a good one. Inside DEI when things don't work out it is inevitable that thoughts occur that the best person was not sought since the DEI cloud is overhead. Relative to DEI, this is what I have tried to express many times.

Now, I don't have relative knowledge of the events you mention and the times I was able to hear him in front of the dem senators...all I heard was his love life. I wasn't aware of which you write being discussed in the hearing. I did see them admit many statements of support for him by people he led. Personally, I have a lean and perhaps a preference for those outside the government payroll almost all their life in "politics". I think he will bring a whole new understanding based upon first hand experience of life in the services and war in general. He said he would surround himself with good people and I think there are probably many that know how to work Washington through their years doing such that.

I don't know what you do, but I'm going to say general contractor. Your knowledge based is intimate within that scope inside code. You may not have the specific knowledge of an I beam design for load, or maybe three way wiring, sizing a geothermal or determining the duct work layout, but you will listen to those people that may discuss their areas of knowledge and make an executive decision. I expect Pete to do the same. I believe we need an influx of people not tainted by Washington in how to stay elected, but rather how to efficiently get the results the public needs.

 

[tjreese]

We currently have ten (10!) aircraft carriers on order (link 1). At the same time we know full well that China, Russia and Iran all have hypersonic missiles that can take them out (link 2). And today's hypersonics are Mach 5 (a bullet from a rifle flies at Mach 3). This will soon increase to Mach 10 and some of the development is being done at a Purdue/ND joint lab facility (link 3).

Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Can Iran's Missiles Send U.S. Navy Aircraft Carriers Underwater?

Here’s What You Need to Remember: The Khalij Fars has one-quarter the DF-21’s range at 190 to 220 miles, and relatedly doesn’t fly as high or fast, with a lower maximum speed of Mach 3 as it plunges towards its target. Thus the Khalij Fars would likely prove easier to intercept with defensive...

nationalinterest.org

US gets wind tunnel to test hypersonic power at 10 times speed of sound

The Mach 10 quiet wind tunnel of University of Notre Dame can simulate hypersonic flight at higher speeds and benefit scientists working in this field.

interestingengineering.com

Wow, no idea we were flirting with Mach 10!!!!

 

[BB62]

I was not accusing you of using DEI. In "ANY" appointment or hire things may or may not work out and that can happen whether the person in question has a litany of various accomplishments that no doubt some would weigh differently. When things don't work out and the person does not fall inside the DEI group (If DEI is at a time of usage), then that person can be considered a bad hire...a bad choice, and perhaps a surprise since the hire or appointment was considered a good one. Inside DEI when things don't work out it is inevitable that thoughts occur that the best person was not sought since the DEI cloud is overhead. Relative to DEI, this is what I have tried to express many times.

Now, I don't have relative knowledge of the events you mention and the times I was able to hear him in front of the dem senators...all I heard was his love life. I wasn't aware of which you write being discussed in the hearing. I did see them admit many statements of support for him by people he led. Personally, I have a lean and perhaps a preference for those outside the government payroll almost all their life in "politics". I think he will bring a whole new understanding based upon first hand experience of life in the services and war in general. He said he would surround himself with good people and I think there are probably many that know how to work Washington through their years doing such that.

I don't know what you do, but I'm going to say general contractor. Your knowledge based is intimate within that scope inside code. You may not have the specific knowledge of an I beam design for load, or maybe three way wiring, sizing a geothermal or determining the duct work layout, but you will listen to those people that may discuss their areas of knowledge and make an executive decision. I expect Pete to do the same. I believe we need an influx of people not tainted by Washington in how to stay elected, but rather how to efficiently get the results the public needs.

Ok. So you say that Pete is being hired on merit but you have no "relative knowledge" of his previous work in the private sector........other than his hosting duties on Fox, which I assume you know about.

How can you make the argument he's qualified when you know little about him? You're a logic guy, explain that to me. Explain to me why it's not simply because he's a republican nominated by trump.

There's literally thousands of people who have the same or FAR greater experience in the service and in war. You say the people the government should be hired because they are the best, not because of other factors like DEI. How is this hire furthering your point?

 

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Trump wants someone who is not a toady for the mil/industrial/war machine establishment like Austin was.

And not because he is qualified for that position, correct? I thought merit was important to you folks.

 

[Quix0te]

And not because he is qualified for that position, correct? I thought merit was important to you folks.

Where was all of this questioning about credentials when Biden made Swift Boat Kerry the Climate Czar, Word Salads Harris the Border Czar, the mayor of South Bend the Sec of Transportation and Jennifer Granholm the Sec of Energy?

 

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Where was all of this questioning about credentials when Biden made Swift Boat Kerry the Climate Czar, Word Salads Harris the Border Czar, the mayor of South Bend the Sec of Transportation and Jennifer Granholm the Sec of Energy?

This is false equivalences on steroids. Those folks that you mentioned qualifications are comparable to their predecessors. Just because you do not like someone doesn't mean that they are not qualified.

Speaking of qualifications, Chump in his last administration selected a neurosurgeon for Secretary of HUD. Go figure. Seem like Health Secretary would have been a better fit. If Biden would have hired a black neurosurgeon for Sec of HUD, y'all would have said that it was a DEI hire like y'all said about Def Sec Lloyd Austin.

 

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Where was all of this questioning about credentials when Biden made Swift Boat Kerry the Climate Czar, Word Salads Harris the Border Czar, the mayor of South Bend the Sec of Transportation and Jennifer Granholm the Sec of Energy?

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Two of my favorite qualified Biden appointees.

 

[Quix0te]

This is false equivalences on steroids. Those folks that you mentioned qualifications are comparable to their predecessors. Just because you do not like someone doesn't mean that they are not qualified.

The false equivalence is on you. Hegseth has a vastly greater background in the Dept of Defense than Mayor Pete had in transportation or Gennifer Granholm had in energy. In college, Pete majored in history and literature. Throughout his career he did not have one day of experience in any industry or government agency concerned with aviation, automotive or anything else touching on transportation.

Same with Granholm. In college she majored in political science and French, then became a lawyer. Throughout her career she did not have one day of experience in any industry or government agency concerned with energy.

Now consider Hegseth (copied from Wikipedia): After graduating from Princeton University, Hegseth began his career working as an analyst for Bear Stearns. From 2003 to 2014 and again from 2019 to 2021, he served as an infantry officer in the Army National Guard, attaining the rank of Major. He received the Bronze Star while serving in the special operations forces during a combat deployment to Iraq in 2005.[3] In 2014, he voluntarily deployed to Afghanistan to train the Afghan security forces. Following his military service, Hegseth became an active figure in conservative and Republican politics and was the executive director of Vets for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America.

 

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The false equivalence is on you. Hegseth has a vastly greater background in the Dept of Defense than Mayor Pete had in transportation or Gennifer Granholm had in energy. In college, Pete majored in history and literature. Throughout his career he did not have one day of experience in any industry or government agency concerned with aviation, automotive or anything else touching on transportation.

Same with Granholm. In college she majored in political science and French, then became a lawyer. Throughout her career she did not have one day of experience in any industry or government agency concerned with energy.

Now consider Hegseth (copied from Wikipedia): After graduating from Princeton University, Hegseth began his career working as an analyst for Bear Stearns. From 2003 to 2014 and again from 2019 to 2021, he served as an infantry officer in the Army National Guard, attaining the rank of Major. He received the Bronze Star while serving in the special operations forces during a combat deployment to Iraq in 2005.[3] In 2014, he voluntarily deployed to Afghanistan to train the Afghan security forces. Following his military service, Hegseth became an active figure in conservative and Republican politics and was the executive director of Vets for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America.

Again false equivalences. I'm talking about Mayor Pete and others qualifications for the same position, in Mayor Pete's case Sec of Transportation. Mayor Pete as we know was Mayor of South Bend, IN. Chump's Sec of Transportation selection is Sean Duffy. I'm not going to get into whether he is qualified or not. But I mentioned Duffy to show that Pete's qualifications are at least comparable to Chump's pick for the same position. Duffy was a US Congressman, Marketing major, and member of a 90s MTV reality show, Real World.

As far as Hegseth, serious allegations should have disqualified him by themselves. Then add in the qualifications compared to someone like Gen. Lloyd Austin. It's no question who is more qualified. It is also no question on why Hegseth was selected as well as other questionable Chump selections like Goetz, was to do what Chump tells them to do. Goetz was even a worse selection. The chick that Chump replaced him with seems to be more qualified for AG than Goetz.

 

[Riveting]

And not because he is qualified for that position, correct? I thought merit was important to you folks.

His top qualification is loyalty to the nation, not to the defense industry like Austin.

"After retiring from the armed services, Austin joined the boards of Raytheon Technologies, Nucor, Tenet Healthcare, and Auburn University. On December 7, 2020, he was nominated for defense secretary by then-President-elect Joe Biden and was confirmed by the United States Senate on January 22, 2021, by a vote of 93–2."

 

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His top qualification is loyalty to the nation, not to the defense industry like Austin.

"After retiring from the armed services, Austin joined the boards of Raytheon Technologies, Nucor, Tenet Healthcare, and Auburn University. On December 7, 2020, he was nominated for defense secretary by then-President-elect Joe Biden and was confirmed by the United States Senate on January 22, 2021, by a vote of 93–2."

Nope. Hegseth’s top qualification is his loyalty to Chump and the Cosa Nostra that Chump has embraced.

 

[Quix0te]

Nope. Hegseth’s top qualification is his loyalty to Chump and the Cosa Nostra that Chump has embraced.

This is why a forthright, rational discussion isn't possible here. Riveting presented factual data and you countered with hate and nonsense.

 

[BB62]

This is why a forthright, rational discussion isn't possible here. Riveting presented factual data and you countered with hate and nonsense.

Lol. You're right. When you tout riveting's opinions as facts it's hard to have a conversation.

He sits behind a keyboard and somehow knows that Pete is loyal to the country and Austin is not. He doesn't know that and neither do you.

If the best qualification he can come up with for Pete us that he's loyal to the nation......while implying he doesn't give two sh/ts about the defense industry that he will be working closely with and whose products he needs to do his job.....how can you take his unqualified opinions as facts?

 

[Riveting]

Nope. Hegseth’s top qualification is his loyalty to Chump and the Cosa Nostra that Chump has embraced.

You think presidents pick cabinet members who will not be loyal?

 

[Riveting]

He sits behind a keyboard and somehow knows that Pete is loyal to the country and Austin is not.

Joining the Army and two combat tours of duty proved that about Hegseth.

I didn't say Austin was not loyal to the country - but when he didn't resign during or following the Afg debacle, it looked to me like his highest loyalties were to defense contractors. Do you agree - or are you still stuck on believing that closing Bagram before everybody was out was not a massive blunder.

 

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You think presidents pick cabinet members who will not be loyal?

There is a difference between being loyal and being loyal within a Cosa Nostra. Where a Cosa Nostra is loyalty with consequences. That is why during Chump’s last fiasco he had scores of folks in his cabinet and administration that were either fired, resigned, or went to prison. The folks that “kissed the ring” went to prison like a Cosa Nostra. The ones that didn’t resigned or was fired.