I don’t know about plenty of black pilots but the ones that are there still experience racism. And this is going on currently.
Tuskegee Airmen will no longer be taught to Air Force recruits
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What about black racism B? You know, like you spout here everyday.
I’ve never said anything racist. Speaking out AGAINST racism is not racist. Y’all are the one thy do not went blacks to be hired for anything. Y’all are the ones that do not want the wonderful stories of brave patriots told.
I find it fascinating. The right ringers want all instances of affirmative action or DEI removed. But when it comes to removing racist and offensive confederate statues and monuments or to rename the confederate military base names they want to keep those. Unbelievable.
Because you and other race baiters want to continue to sow racial division by pointing out a persons skin color before their accomplishment. Are we supposed to be more impressed because these pilots are black? Why? What's that say about you in terms of your thought process?
I gave you a reason: Because people think their skin color is irrelevant to their ability to achieve great things. Should we recognize every black high school student who gets a 1600 on their SAT? What about Asian or Indian students?
You and your way of thinking is exactly why DEI is being removed.
You sure seem to complain about oppression a lot for someone who's never been oppressed.
You sure are complaining about DEI for someone who was never affected by anyone hired under a so called DEI program.
Heck yeah you should be impressed these wonderful black men who under extreme Jim Crow era racism in the US armed forces were able to overcome. Be trained how to fly P-41 and P-51 Mustangs. Then become the most demanded fighter squadron group in WWII to protect the B-17 bombers from the German fighter planes. Unlike the white pilots, The Tuskegee Airmen had to be college graduates. That was a challenge in of itself for black folks in those days. In those days, German POWs had more respect by the US military than the black military officers did. I know that you don't like history but I challenge you to watch the 2013 Hollywood movie called "Red Tails". tjreese said that he watched it twice. Or, search YouTube and learn about this group of black men. You like to talk about the violence in Chicago all the time. But when it comes to learning something positive about black Americans you don't want any part of it.
Looks like Hegseth is fixing the training. This was a case of malicious compliance by racist liberals. Shocker.
www.al.com
Hegseth: Removal of Tuskegee Airmen video after DEI order ‘will not stand’
"We're all over it," Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth posted in response to Sen. Katie Britt.
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Pete Hegseth was chosen on merit?
Was he chosen because of a "connection"?
That's good if Chump stays out of it. Good gracious. The racist folks in this forum still wants this training gone. Even though black history is US history.Looks like Hegseth is fixing the training. This was a case of malicious compliance by racist liberals. Shocker.
Hegseth: Removal of Tuskegee Airmen video after DEI order ‘will not stand’
"We're all over it," Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth posted in response to Sen. Katie Britt.
I guess you can call this a connection hire. That is part of my point in all of this. When affirmative action/DEI goes away, there is going to be a lot of these connection hires which will setback US civil rights decades. All of the folks that fought, and died, for civil rights; their work will be in vain.
He was chosen because he is a white man mostly, but also because he wanted to return the hot nurse look.
Pete Hegseth Says All Women In The Military Are Now Nurses And Have To Wear Those Hot Matching Outfits Like In WW2!
WASHINGTON, D.C. — In his first official act as Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth announced today that all women in the military will now be nurses and they must wear those hot outfits like they did back in World War II.
Regardless of current rank or role, every woman in the armed forces will be issued a matching white nurse's outfit with the little hat, and all women will now be addressed as simply "nurse."
"This is the kind of military that defeated the Axis powers - a military where women were nurses, and they had hot matching outfits," explained Hegseth. "We are going to bring back what made the United States Armed Forces the best in the world, and that starts with women being nurses and wearing those weirdly sexy dresses."
Rank and file soldiers have roundly praised the move, saying it's the most positive step the military brass has made in decades. "This is what I signed up for - cute nurses wearing the little hats," said Corporal Sam Gamboa. "The problems in the military aren't because of a lack of some new program or new equipment. It starts with a lack of women being nurses and wearing hot matching outfits."
At publishing time, Hegseth had announced his second act would be requiring generals to be smoking a cigar at all times.
I raised you a joke!
Was Pete Hegseth chosen on merit?Pete Hegseth Says All Women In The Military Are Now Nurses And Have To Wear Those Hot Matching Outfits Like In WW2!
WASHINGTON, D.C. — In his first official act as Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth announced today that all women in the military will now be nurses and they must wear those hot outfits like they did back in World War II.
Regardless of current rank or role, every woman in the armed forces will be issued a matching white nurse's outfit with the little hat, and all women will now be addressed as simply "nurse."
"This is the kind of military that defeated the Axis powers - a military where women were nurses, and they had hot matching outfits," explained Hegseth. "We are going to bring back what made the United States Armed Forces the best in the world, and that starts with women being nurses and wearing those weirdly sexy dresses."
Rank and file soldiers have roundly praised the move, saying it's the most positive step the military brass has made in decades. "This is what I signed up for - cute nurses wearing the little hats," said Corporal Sam Gamboa. "The problems in the military aren't because of a lack of some new program or new equipment. It starts with a lack of women being nurses and wearing hot matching outfits."
At publishing time, Hegseth had announced his second act would be requiring generals to be smoking a cigar at all times.
I raised you a joke!
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He was chosen because he is a white man mostly, but also because he wanted to return the hot nurse look.
Pete Hegseth Says All Women In The Military Are Now Nurses And Have To Wear Those Hot Matching Outfits Like In WW2!
WASHINGTON, D.C. — In his first official act as Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth announced today that all women in the military will now be nurses and they must wear those hot outfits like they did back in World War II.
Regardless of current rank or role, every woman in the armed forces will be issued a matching white nurse's outfit with the little hat, and all women will now be addressed as simply "nurse."
"This is the kind of military that defeated the Axis powers - a military where women were nurses, and they had hot matching outfits," explained Hegseth. "We are going to bring back what made the United States Armed Forces the best in the world, and that starts with women being nurses and wearing those weirdly sexy dresses."
Rank and file soldiers have roundly praised the move, saying it's the most positive step the military brass has made in decades. "This is what I signed up for - cute nurses wearing the little hats," said Corporal Sam Gamboa. "The problems in the military aren't because of a lack of some new program or new equipment. It starts with a lack of women being nurses and wearing hot matching outfits."
At publishing time, Hegseth had announced his second act would be requiring generals to be smoking a cigar at all times.
I raised you a joke!
The problem isn't women in combat, it's women in deployed units. Eleven percent of women in the military services get pregnant every year. What do you do with a pregnant service member in an infantry company in Iraq or in a submarine or in a helicopter crew?
Oops, I am very sorry. I was citing outdated information. Nowadays 16% of women in the military services get pregnant every year, and an astonishing 40 percent have gotten pregnant since joining the military.
"More than 40 percent of ADSW (42.6 percent DoD, 43.7 percent Coast Guard) have been pregnant since joining the military, and about 16 percent had been pregnant in the 12 months prior to the survey."
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This is such absolute bullshit. Nobody here has ever said anything to this extent. You just take it as this when someone is against DEI. That isn't the same thing as not wanting blacks to be hired for anything. Not even close. The sooner you learn that, the closer you get to seeing reality.
I had a feeling this was the case, but @BNIBoiler loves him some knee jerk reactions and ridiculous race baiting.Looks like Hegseth is fixing the training. This was a case of malicious compliance by racist liberals. Shocker.
Hegseth: Removal of Tuskegee Airmen video after DEI order ‘will not stand’
"We're all over it," Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth posted in response to Sen. Katie Britt.
This is but another powerful example of the need for DEI! Obviously, there isn't enough nuns in the deployed units. Al Sharpton being the preacher of some sect is probably already on this.
Could this mean Hegseth is not a true conservative? If he were, he would not be reversing the decision according to @BNIBoiler.
Sorry, I seemed to have deleted your reply by mistake.
Was it more sarcasm and avoiding the question?
Was it more sarcasm and avoiding the question?
If it was to me the answer is yes...obviously. However, I'll play this childish game. Pete and many others that some may or may not believe is the best choice, is but an individual thing...an individual decision. Where you and BNI continually get confused on this topic even though I have explained it many times before is the DEI is an application that has group connotations and that is dramatically different than individual issues...and since that is a main platform of the democrats...every single member inside the "group" that is applicable for DEI may always have questions concerning competence.
I'm happy Pete got in, but really embarrassed for the dems asking so many stupid irrelevant questions. Who voted for these senators? Pete brings leadership, intelligence and real life experience in understanding the ground floor needs and problems. He can surround himself with politicians and other talkers...
I didn't say or ask anything about DEI. BNI is wasting his time with you guys. You and yours refuse to acknowledge basic facts of
the argument.
Mine is a simple question, which you still haven't answered. Was Pete Hegseth on merit?
You know something B, I hope every minority...black, blue, white or the evasive pink. Become rich and successful. When I look for a carpenter, plumber, electrician, or banker I don't look at their skin, but I do check out their qualifications. Then I pick the best and most recommended. Do you do that?
Bob, if you read what you quoted you would not only see the answer, but the differentiation between individual appointments and DEI. It's all there. BTW did you see that the DEI material was removed from the Tuskegee airmen but the rest of the historic video's were retained. Not sure if this hits CNN and it's ilk?
We need someone with the balls to change the system, including the military-industrial complex. Aircraft carriers are obsolete. Tanks are obsolete. Fighter planes are obsolete. The future of warfare is drones and hypersonic missiles. A reiired 4-star who spent 30+ years in the system doesn't have the vision to make the needed changes. Hopefully, Hegseth does.
I believe a person that was on the ground with actual experience has an understanding that those that haven't don't. There are a boatload of people with the "other" expertise and I expect Pete to have them as council as well.
Your comment is nothing but a childish, uninformed tantrum. Our Dept of Defense needs to prepare for the next war, not the last one.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...iller-is-worlds-largest-air-launched-missile/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidh...-javelin-crunching-anti-tank-missile-numbers/
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/the-fighter-jet-era-has-passed/
Do you mean fighter jets will be obsolete in the future because they seem pretty useful now against enemies like Iran...?
Dude, Q is in la la land. Or smokin too min o that whacky tobacky. He expect me u me to get rid trillions of dollars in fighter jets and nuclear subs do some jive drones.
Iran had only four anti-aircraft defense systems and Israel took out all four of them before attacking other targets. Against a well-defended enemy, the F-35s would be vulnerable to state-of-the-art surface-to-air missiles in addition to air-to-air drones/missiles. We need to plan 10-20 years into the future, not for next year.
Elon Musk says human-piloted fighter jets like the F-35 are obsolete. Drone tech can't yet fill the gap.
The Tesla CEO went after the F-35, calling crewed fighter jets "obsolete in the age of drones," but uncrewed technology isn't there yet.
www.businessinsider.com
Now I see it. My bad.
To be clear, I have not mentioned DEI once in this thread. Choosing Hegseth has nothing to do with DEI........other than one of the reasons he was chosen was to end it.
You believe his selection is merit based. From what I can tell, the arguments against DEI from your side say that people should be selected because they are the best qualified.
How is Pete more qualified than any other former army Major? Colonel? General? Has he been in charge of any large organizations? His positions at various veterans groups resulted in demotions and forced resignations. His best job since his military career appears to be the Fox News weekend gig. Please tell me how his appointment is merit based considering all the above.
That is exactly my point in all of this. These right wingers say merit this. Merit that. And seeming every black selection by Biden and others are DEI hires. But yet Hegseth is arguably the most non-qualified for Def Secretary that I can remember. These same folks even called arguably the most qualified Sec of Defense, Lloyd Austin a DEI hire even though Biden never said that he was going to select a black person in that role. If that even makes a difference. Similarly, with Goetz and RFK Jr. Ne'er one of them is qualified for their selections. Good thing Goetz dropped out. Seemingly, his replacement is much more qualified for this role than he can ever imagine.
For FUKKS SAKE! The reason why we say DEI this and DEI that about Biden's hires are because:
1. Biden himself stated the number one qualification was skin color, THEREFORE it's more than likely the best person for the job was overlooked. IF the best person was a black lesbian woman then that's who it was, but that's not how that brain dead imbecile hired and it showed!
2. These people he hired were SHIIT at their job!
3. MANY of them should have been fired because they were so shiit at their job, but Biden refused to fire anyone
You have no F'ing clue what Hegseth's qualifications are so you're here bitching. Perhaps his best qualification for what we need is the fact that he isn't tied to the military industrial complex, but has enough military knowledge to know how to move our military forward.
If it was a black man, you wouldn't say shiit. Even if it was Hank "Guam is going to capsize and tip over" Johnson. That guy is another example of DEI and a testament to how stupid Democrat voters can be.
I fully agree that one of us is wacked out. I was an active duty US Army officer for 28 years and retired at the rank of Colonel (O-6). The only uniform you ever wore was Cub Scouts or maybe high school band while the studs were playing football. I said nothing whatever about "getting rid" of fighter jets or anything else. We need to stop procuring aircraft carriers, tanks and fighter jets because drone/missile technology has made all of them obsolete. We don't get rid of them, we just don't buy any more. We should focus DOD on the drone and missile development that will win the next war. Ditto the much ridiculed "Star Wars."
