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How about making healthcare coverage available to millions and saving the financial and automotive industries from collapse? Or was that Trump?
The way you mention those things here you make them sound good, but they were bad things. Bush started it with the auto and financial industries and Obama finished it off with both of those and the awful healthcare bill. Helping people get coverage isn't my issue. My issue is that it raised the costs significantly for anyone that isn't employed by a large employer and has made it near impossible for anyone to afford on their own or as a small business owner. Not only that, but Obamacare has been a financial boon to insurance companies.


 
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The way you mention those things here you make them sound good, but they were bad things. Bush started it with the auto and financial industries and Obama finished it off with both of those and the awful healthcare bill. Helping people get coverage isn't my issue. My issue is that it raised the costs significantly for anyone that isn't employed by a large employer and has made it near impossible for anyone to afford on their own or as a small business owner. Not only that, but Obamacare has been a financial boon to insurance companies.


Oh, so nothing about the Republicans abandoning the bill that was negotiated into its current form?
 
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You are the only one on the planet that believes that. Even the migrants know the border is now closed. They are not coming into the country by the thousands every day. That means it’s no longer open.
Seriously, guys, you're in a right wing echo chamber. If everyone you talk to also believes that the border was open and Trump just closed it, you're going to believe it. If that's what your media sources tell you, and you refuse to read any other sources, it confirms your belief. This is true of every single issue that Trump champions. You go out and find news sources to support your OPINIONS and biases, and you never question the veracity or bias of the source.

The hardest thing to deal with is the myriad articles posted here that purportedly back up these claims, only to do no such thing upon further review. The best was when one of you posted an article about the alleged persecution of Afrikan farmers, only to find out that the article was DEBUNKING THE CLAIM! The rationale was that the out of context propaganda quoted was the actual truth. It's just insane how susceptible the right is to this kind of bias.
 
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Interesting, nowhere in the article does it mention open borders. It's saying the Biden administration was planning to allow people to make asylum claims as opposed to locking them in cages and treating them like animals a la Trump.

Open border = RWNJ fantasy
 
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Right on cue, propaganda from Gym Jordan. He's on the list of least credible people on earth, so thanks for the laugh!
I am sure you trust lib icons "Rev" Al Sharpton and Morning Joe, right? If you don't trust them, who does that leave for a mindless knee-jerk lib like you to trust?

"Even Al Sharpton, never perceived as quick on his feet at MSNBC, sees the writing on the wall. He has called what is happening on the border an “invasion.” The gang on “Morning Joe” are now talking about how something needs to be done to secure the border, which they might have disparaged as a racist position a few short weeks ago. "

 
I am sure you trust lib icons "Rev" Al Sharpton and Morning Joe, right? If you don't trust them, who does that leave for a mindless knee-jerk lib like you to trust?

"Even Al Sharpton, never perceived as quick on his feet at MSNBC, sees the writing on the wall. He has called what is happening on the border an “invasion.” The gang on “Morning Joe” are now talking about how something needs to be done to secure the border, which they might have disparaged as a racist position a few short weeks ago. "

I'm going to be honest with you: I just don't care what you think. I'm right, you're wrong. Sorry ... Hatred and lies is not a way to run a country, and the country is not being run well at the moment. You're part of the problem, but a minute part. Your propaganda networks, on the other hand, are a big part of the problem.
 
So, why aren't you RWNJs exalting Obama as the next coming of Christ?
Simple, Obama had great ideas and I voted for him for Hope and Change, but he NEVER delivered, except for Muslims. For example, he deported millions, but NEVER secured the border. He could have healed racial division, but instead, furthered the concept that blacks are victims. He made that freaking apology tourtelling other countries that it is okay to use unfair trade practices to take advantage of the US. Iran, we will make you a wealthy country, so you can grow Islamic terrorists and wipe out the unholy Christians and Jews. Climate warming is real, and the oceans are rising a foot each year! I am so convinced I will buy a beautiful estate on a peninsula off the Atlantic Ocean.
 
Seriously, guys, you're in a right wing echo chamber. If everyone you talk to also believes that the border was open and Trump just closed it, you're going to believe it. If that's what your media sources tell you, and you refuse to read any other sources, it confirms your belief. This is true of every single issue that Trump champions. You go out and find news sources to support your OPINIONS and biases, and you never question the veracity or bias of the source.

The hardest thing to deal with is the myriad articles posted here that purportedly back up these claims, only to do no such thing upon further review. The best was when one of you posted an article about the alleged persecution of Afrikan farmers, only to find out that the article was DEBUNKING THE CLAIM! The rationale was that the out of context propaganda quoted was the actual truth. It's just insane how susceptible the right is to this kind of bias.
Are you disputing the statistic that illegal crossings on the southern border are down 90% since Trump took office compared to Biden?
 
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I'm going to be honest with you: I just don't care what you think. I'm right, you're wrong. Sorry ... Hatred and lies is not a way to run a country, and the country is not being run well at the moment. You're part of the problem, but a minute part. Your propaganda networks, on the other hand, are a big part of the problem.
ha ha. This is absolutely hilarious. You remind me of one of those purple haired liberal warthogs that shows up at one of the silly protests and just screams nonsensical gibberish.
You're metaphorically sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and stomping your feet like a toddler who doesn't want to be told they're wrong.
Classic lefty lib.
 
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Republicans control the house, the senate, and the presidency. If they hate Obamacare so much they can repeal it. Just like they could in 2016.
This is why I am middle of the road. I heard McCain say 'repeal and replace for seven years. He even campaigned on that promise. The minute Trump walked into the office, he should have had McCain's R&R Bill on his desk. And again, every President who campaigned for the presidency for the past 40-plus years was a LIAR, except for Trump. You may hate his guts, but he either did or tried to do what he campaigned on.

Without McCain's Bill. Trump threw together an R&R bill, and you guessed it, McCain helped vote it down.

Another mark against Obama was his Obamacare; even though its premise was good, it was flawed because it hurt small businesses, which had to radically restructure their companies. Trump actually enhanced Obamacare by cutting out most of the red tape.
 
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This is why I am middle of the road. I heard McCain say 'repeal and replace for seven years. He even campaigned on that promise. The minute Trump walked into the office, he should have had McCain's R&R Bill on his desk. And again, every President who campaigned for the presidency for the past 40-plus years was a LIAR, except for Trump. You may hate his guts, but he either did or tried to do what he campaigned on.

Without McCain's Bill. Trump threw together an R&R bill, and you guessed it, McCain helped vote it down.

Another mark against Obama was his Obamacare; even though its premise was good, it was flawed because it hurt small businesses, which had to radically restructure their companies. Trump actually enhanced Obamacare by cutting out most of the red tape.
Exactly what road are you in the middle of?

"every President who campaigned for the presidency for the past 40-plus years was a LIAR, except for Trump."
 
Exactly what road are you in the middle of?

"every President who campaigned for the presidency for the past 40-plus years was a LIAR, except for Trump."
Biden at least didn’t lie. He couldn’t put a coherent sentence together to lie if he wanted too.
 
This is why I am middle of the road. I heard McCain say 'repeal and replace for seven years. He even campaigned on that promise. The minute Trump walked into the office, he should have had McCain's R&R Bill on his desk. And again, every President who campaigned for the presidency for the past 40-plus years was a LIAR, except for Trump. You may hate his guts, but he either did or tried to do what he campaigned on.

Without McCain's Bill. Trump threw together an R&R bill, and you guessed it, McCain helped vote it down.

Another mark against Obama was his Obamacare; even though its premise was good, it was flawed because it hurt small businesses, which had to radically restructure their companies. Trump actually enhanced Obamacare by cutting out most of the red tape.
Yeah, I have to disagree with you here. Trump’s number one issue that he ran on was reducing prices. He has done zero things to reduce prices.
 
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Exactly what road are you in the middle of?

"every President who campaigned for the presidency for the past 40-plus years was a LIAR, except for Trump."
I have probably voted 51% of the time for a Democrat and 49% of the time for a Republican. My biggest mistake was not being stronger for Perot.

The media used to have headlines of Trump's biggest lies. I guess I was the only person who read them. Most were puffing. Trump is not Presidential and overinflates statistics to puff like we had the best this or that in history. His next biggest lies were when it is a difference of opinion. The biggest one is that the Democrats stole the election in 2020. I have given facts on how they did it, but it is so ingrained in people's minds because the media kept saying "Trump unjustly or incorrectly claimed", which would earn you an F in any Journalism 101 course. They are to report the news NOT give their opinion. If News shows say that, then people know they are news opinion shows like MSNBC, Fox, or CNN. There are times, occasionally, when Trump pulls a number out of the hat, again, a non-Presidential move. However, Trump is very transparent and is open to the press two or three times a day. Since the media dissect every sentence, I would say he is candid. Trump's main campaign promises were to secure the border, remove illegal criminals and spies, bring International Peace, rid waste and fraud from the government, stop inflation, reduce the debt, and achieve this by negotiating for FAIR trade. He has been by far the most honest when it comes to campaign promises. It is also true that he ran into obstacles that the Biden Administration laid out in January, yet IMO, he miscalculated how long this would take. The other countries are not cooperating, and I don't blame them. And I don't think he anticipated Federal Judges getting so involved. However, I have faith that the country will soon get behind him.

Compare this to Bush Sr, Clinton. Bush Jr., Obama, and Biden; and Trump crushes them. Sadly, I feel that among the five losers, Clinton was the best.
 
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Yeah, I have to disagree with you here. Trump’s number one issue that he ran on was reducing prices. He has done zero things to reduce prices.
They all say that. If you don't, you lose. A president’s power to lower prices is very limited.
 
He not only stopped a war between Pakistan and India and saved Russia from "really bad things" happening to them, he didn't like what his tariffs were doing to China so he saved them "from a very bad situation".

What a guy. It's almost like he thinks he's running the world and only he can solve all the problems.

 
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I have probably voted 51% of the time for a Democrat and 49% of the time for a Republican. My biggest mistake was not being stronger for Perot.

The media used to have headlines of Trump's biggest lies. I guess I was the only person who read them. Most were puffing. Trump is not Presidential and overinflates statistics to puff like we had the best this or that in history. His next biggest lies were when it is a difference of opinion. The biggest one is that the Democrats stole the election in 2020. I have given facts on how they did it, but it is so ingrained in people's minds because the media kept saying "Trump unjustly or incorrectly claimed", which would earn you an F in any Journalism 101 course. They are to report the news NOT give their opinion. If News shows say that, then people know they are news opinion shows like MSNBC, Fox, or CNN. There are times, occasionally, when Trump pulls a number out of the hat, again, a non-Presidential move. However, Trump is very transparent and is open to the press two or three times a day. Since the media dissect every sentence, I would say he is candid. Trump's main campaign promises were to secure the border, remove illegal criminals and spies, bring International Peace, rid waste and fraud from the government, stop inflation, reduce the debt, and achieve this by negotiating for FAIR trade. He has been by far the most honest when it comes to campaign promises. It is also true that he ran into obstacles that the Biden Administration laid out in January, yet IMO, he miscalculated how long this would take. The other countries are not cooperating, and I don't blame them. And I don't think he anticipated Federal Judges getting so involved. However, I have faith that the country will soon get behind him.

Compare this to Bush Sr, Clinton. Bush Jr., Obama, and Biden; and Trump crushes them. Sadly, I feel that among the five losers, Clinton was the best.
The biggest lie was the dems stole the election? Or that was just opinion? Confusing.

What obstacles? Like not cooperating at all with the incoming administration? Oh wait, that was trump when Biden took office.

He had to be the only human alive to think there wouldn't be hundreds of lawsuits filed because of his brazen executive takeover and constitutional violations. Well, maybe you and few others here as well.

How's that whole "reduce the debt" thing going anyway? Have you seen the big beautiful bill?
 
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The biggest lie was the dems stole the election? Or that was just opinion? Confusing.

What obstacles? Like not cooperating at all with the incoming administration? Oh wait, that was trump when Biden took office.

He had to be the only human alive to think there wouldn't be hundreds of lawsuits filed because of his brazen executive takeover and constitutional violations. Well, maybe you and few others here as well.

How's that whole "reduce the debt" thing going anyway? Have you seen the big beautiful bill?
You seem happiest on this forum when you think the country is regressing under Trump. Does that make you feel good about yourself?
 
If you say that Jordan is the GOAT, the media cannot say you are lying because all the evidence is that Wilt is the GOAT. The media can say that Trump claimed he won the election, but he did not have the evidence to show he won. The media can NOT say Trump falsely claimed, because now they are prejudicing how you are reading the report. In 2017, the media claimed 24/7 that Trump lied when he said more people watched his inauguration than ever before. No wonder everyone thinks Trump is a liar. With the Internet and foreign TV, more people saw this than ever before. I am sure they told this to Trump, and I think once Trump changed it to 'attended', which is debatable, because I believe Obama had more attendees. However, since the media said Trump falsely claimed 24/7, many people see him as a liar,

In January, Biden killed all US chickens to stop the flu. I think that if he remained President, he would quarantined most to see if they were all infected. Maybe I am wrong, but I have not read a counter to doing that. I also think Biden purposely reiterated that he wants Ukraine in NATO and is giving them long-range missiles. And now, in a couple of weeks, the US will mediate a treaty. Are you kidding me? Please also remember that I believe Biden started the war with this type of talk, and by easing sanctions on Russia, so they would have the money to invade.

And as stated earlier, how come Obama wasn't hit with lawsuits when he deported illegals. Trump got them for deporting illegals who committed felonies and/or were members of vicious gangs. I am sorry, but I can't process that anyone would object to that, and the sooner the better. Why are you not for it? I don't understand.

I love all the things Trump is doing to reduce the debt. Cutting waste, fraud, and bureaucratic red tape in the government is fantastic. Again, I can't process that anyone would object to that, and the sooner the better. Why are you not for it? I don't understand.

I have not studied the big, beautiful bill. What parts of it do you object to?
 
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I love all the things Trump is doing to reduce the debt. Cutting waste, fraud, and bureaucratic red tape in the government is fantastic. Again, I can't process that anyone would object to that, and the sooner the better. Why are you not for it? I don't understand.

I have not studied the big, beautiful bill. What parts of it do you object to?
Any thoughts on the “big beautiful bill” increasing the national debt by trillions of dollars?

Also, what about the bill taking away the judicial branch’s checks and balances on the executive branch by taking away the judicial branches ability to enforce their rulings?
 
I am not a political expert, but here is my opinion, which I hope you find to be common sense.

Other countries benefited from the US after WWII. Trump is trying to change that and make it fair trade. He is also using his tariff power to ensure that we do not depend on other countries and have to acquiesce to them because we rely on them for this or that. Trump is also maneuvering with Canada and Greenland for US defense and to get precious minerals. I also applaud what he did to attain open passage through the Red Sea and Panama Canal. I notice that no one has mentioned these two BIG deals. The Federal Courts are ruling on this, and I see it as an attempt for them to dictate foreign policy. Therefore, I see this as the opposite of what the media has explained to you.

I also see Federal Judges overreaching their authority on Universities. Hamas has been attacking Israel from Gaza Hospitals, Schools, and homes. Therefore, when Israel strikes back, they are killing civilians. Ironically, University students have protested Trump, despite his role in orchestrating the Abraham Accords. However, the students have been threatening Jewish students, and the Universities have not been protecting them. I am glad Trump is holding funds, but here I think the Lawyers and Judges should get involved.

However, I am glad Trump and Rubio are getting involved with foreign students. Why should we educate foreign students unless it is reciprocal? Furthermore, why educate students who may be spies? This should be the Executive Branch, not the Judicial Branch.
 
Interesting, nowhere in the article does it mention open borders. It's saying the Biden administration was planning to allow people to make asylum claims as opposed to locking them in cages and treating them like animals a la Trump.

Open border = RWNJ fantasy
I see, so just because nobody on the left SAYS there was an open border then it wasn't. Makes sense to me, what's your problem?

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