Train Wreck. Clown Show.
- Thread starter Katscratch
- Start date
I warned you, katBMW. The GOAT will not take his loss of stature sitting down.
And others are coming at you to displace you as well.
Heavy is the crown, @Katscratch .
Last edited:
Chasing perfection may only result in excellence or just very good...or just good. What we know is that it will be much better than the alternative Kamala and Biden. It already has accomplished much more and so I'm looking for improvement in numbers unaware of a reasonable magnitude, but believe the direction will be fine. You realize all the people that had a chance to correct the trade and defense, but didn't even attempt it?
Now the media tells you that product moving takes three years. Well, there is product that could take that long...under certain conditions, but most won't. First, not every company needs a new facility. They may want that for tax considerations, but there are many facilities that may have a big enough footprint for several companies and then it is all about the grid, heat and plumbing. I suspect the mechanical side particularly if it is a complete assembly could take longer than the electrical side. Castings we used would take maybe 10-12 weeks if cut in the USA where as China took 6-8 weeks. Certainly much larger and more complex castings would take more weeks. Plastic molding tools would take about 12 weeks. Presses for castings and molding would need shipped and that would take a few more weeks, but many products would be under the same ISO requirements whether commercial or auto as they were in say China. All the process steps, checks and flow and set ups would be used in the same equipment that was located in China. N ow tooling costs would be higher in the USA if no change in the projected tariffs for future tools. What I can't tell you is the supply chain as that is a function of any dominance of the material. Moving product inside a given company is a lot less risky than moving it to another company. I've done both hundreds of times. I realize my world is small compared to all the possible product, but there would be a lot of product of similar nature.
Now a semiconductor moving from Thailand could take three years. Thankfully, that has already been started and I believe Purdue has something in it...not moving the product but a new facility in ARizona??? However, there is still use for old technology in some applications that could be fired up rather quickly, but the wafer size might be around 6...maybe 8 inches instead of maybe 12 or so and the 12 already has 2 1/4 times the area of the 8" diameter and so you can see cost being half as much.... What we are witnessing is a HUGE undertaking because it has been ignored for so long. What Trump is doing is the right thing...how much tariffs are lowered for he USA will not be known for some time, but the direction is known today and it is going down the right path.
There is a lot of paralysis to change in big corporations...even in things that don't require retooling and such...and some people promoted by Murphy's Law. When we would requalify a product for approval the sample size was insufficient to provide the security believed by those without a background in statistics for the parts per million defects sought. Course anytime you try to predict with qualitative data rather than quantitative data your sample size must be thousands of times larger since you have no measure other than good or bad. Still GM did what they have done for years...and no doubt have cost themselves. Same thing with say capacitors. A machine produced an average value and sorted at the 5% or such from each distribution. Parts 5% out went into commercial product where automotive paid extra for the more nominal values. Think a commercial product could be tested to see the effect...nah because if it didn't see a difference some manager would have to make a real decision. I could list a lot of other things that companies were stupid on...mostly because they didn't want the risk and didn't understand the numbers and chose to be safe. Here is one. In Twinsburg Ohio, there is a rubber molder and one of the products they made was a rubber seal for the MAP sensor .
This rubber part shown below is bought from China. It is subsidized by the CCP. Work was put in to make it in Twinsburg, but they couldn't buy the material for the produced product from some company that started with R in China...too long ago to remember. The failure rate was high due to the mold construction needed to produce those little seals. Twinsburg worked with engineering and developed a slightly different profile that reduced scrap and that profile was heavily tested, but even in the success GM didn't want to change anything. Remember those cars with slides you would move from left to right or heat to defrost and such. Well that was one of the first things I noticed when coming from TEst & Development in Chrysler. There was linear motion to cause rotation in all these air controls produced for YEARS and none were rack & pinion...or just rotational (Marketing would never do I was told) turning of the knob...which opened and closed vacuum ports on a "Stator" produced in that same Twinsburg facility. Anyhow large corporations whether the government of another business company has a lot of waste and incompetence at many levels, but if faced with some pressure to perform it can be done.
I like the approach. I like the initial results. Time will tell how successful it is...
Last edited:
It’s safe to say that for the ultimate in passive-aggressive, nonsensical, sycophantic, logic-defying, dysfunctional and dystopian message posting, no one is in your league.
Logic-defying is particularly funny, katBeamer, since it was your "logical progression" of BMW moving its SC plant to Canada that earned you the crown.
That statement was truly a feat of unprecedented stupidity on this forum. Don't be modest about it. You slayed the GOAT.
Sigh.
You go on being you. And you always hold true to this form; I assume in your not-anonymous life too.
Last edited:
South of the Mason-Dixon Line, East of the Mississippi.
Did you want my home address and cell #?
Last edited:
Convict who beat former Subway-pitchman Jared Fogle in Colorado prison sought publicity
Convict who beat former Subway-pitchman Jared Fogle in Colorado prison sought publicity
www.denverpost.com
I'm gonna go ahead and dox @Riveting- right here:
He is Bussa Krishna, from Konne village in Telengana, near Hyderabad.
He is Bussa Krishna, from Konne village in Telengana, near Hyderabad.
I hear you. Southeast quadrant of the US.
Relatively high cost for that part of the country so not rural Arkansas, but not extreme high cost.
I live in the best small town in the Midwest. Cost of living is very low. A few years ago we had a BLM protest after the George Floyd killing. Picture and article about them in the local paper. Eight people showed up, all white.
See which 3 Indiana towns were named Best Small Towns in the Midwest in a USA TODAY poll
USA TODAY 10Best readers voted on the Best Small Towns in the Midwest and three Indiana towns made the list.
www.indystar.com
Glad you like it thereI live in the best small town in the Midwest. Cost of living is very low. A few years ago we had a BLM protest after the George Floyd killing. Picture and article about them in the local paper. Eight people showed up, all white.
See which 3 Indiana towns were named Best Small Towns in the Midwest in a USA TODAY poll
USA TODAY 10Best readers voted on the Best Small Towns in the Midwest and three Indiana towns made the list.www.indystar.com
How high is the river? Is the town safe from a potential flood?I live in the best small town in the Midwest. Cost of living is very low. A few years ago we had a BLM protest after the George Floyd killing. Picture and article about them in the local paper. Eight people showed up, all white.
See which 3 Indiana towns were named Best Small Towns in the Midwest in a USA TODAY poll
USA TODAY 10Best readers voted on the Best Small Towns in the Midwest and three Indiana towns made the list.www.indystar.com
Well, we live on a ridge that is about 300 feet above the river. My wife's sister and her hubby, neither of whom are rocket scientists, bought in a flood plain right on the bank of the river about ten years ago. He said it hadn't flooded since 1934 and that they had flood insurance. They've been flooded three times since, including this year. They're now living in an airB&B for six weeks while the house gets repaired.
Oh, and a few days ago they were in a panic to carry all of their furniture from the first floor to the second floor as the water began trickling in. What fun! They are sixty-somethings on Social Security and both couch potatoes. Must have been like being horse-whipped.
Last edited:
You sound jealous. Everything will be okay, so don’t let this bother you.
I struggle with your write up even though I genuinely respect you as an individual, I think its your understanding of economics that makes queesy. On one breath you denounce socialism, but with the same breath, you seem to inadvertently advocate for socialism for businesses. Also you often seem to conflate supply and demand issues. I mentioned this earlier in another post where you did the same thing.
In a capitalistic sense, the parts in bold are the only thing matters. If I was being extreme, everything else you have brought up is arguably socialistic. Wage is just price point for labor. Like every other market, there is demand and supply. Human beings supply labor, businesses demand labor. People are not paid what the market pays for the job "expectations" (even though that's how it looks to an individual employer when he is trying to set the wage rate), rather people are paid what how supply and demand for that type of labor in that market shakes out. It is not education, expectations, job difficulty or etc that determines wages. It is just supply and demand of labor in that market. That's it.
So for the person on the supply side, all he has to consider is, is the wage being offered a worthy use of my time or not. If they are skipping school or work to go surf, the person is saying the wage on offer is not worth giving up my fun time for. It is not a moral failure, it is not laziness, it is just what it is, there isn't enough signal (wage) in the market to justify to that person that is a worthy use of their time.
In the micro sense, if you can't find workers, you are not offering enough wages, perhaps the employer is stuck on what they think wages should be rather than what the market thinks it ought to be. If the wages go high enough, demand and supply will equilibrate.
That said in the macro sense, can there be longer term structural issues? Yes there can. People trained for one type of job which have now disappeared (e.g. what happened to all those horse industry folks after automobile), and are not adequately trained for the types of jobs currently available. Or perhaps as a whole the whole country does not even have enough people. I would still say in the long run, the market solves this problem. The industries that have higher growth will offer higher wages relative to declining , and therefore incentivize people to go train for it. There are things government, as a collective, can do to ameliorate things in the short run. But if we collectively do nothing, let's not act suprise to see the effects of those structural mismatches. It is intellectual lazy to attribute these structural issues to laziness or moral failures.. Perhaps, it makes the utterer feel smug and self-righteous.
Ok. Just don't like to be obviously and overwhelmingly lied to by my president.
Great question!
No; not just since then. Donald Trump has been lying to the American public for many decades.
Last edited:
Answering for the GOAT to remind him of his fallen status?
To counter your rudeness, I hereby proclaim that the dumb post award will henceforth be called the "Bagram Bob Award" to remind you to curb your hubris.
Wow - you are apparently not just having a problem with reading, but also with understanding.
Let me help (you are welcome):
- BB62: "don't like to be obviously and overwhelmingly lied to by my president." The Current President is Trump.
- Riverting: "Is this a new concern of yours just since Jan 20?"
- Me (answering for myself, not others): "No; not just since then. Donald Trump has been lying to the American public for many decades."
How about the legions of Biden staffers and news outlets that assured you that Joe was sharp as a tack?
I can't say I disagree with what you wrote. A person's incentive is a function of the comfort level. Those unwilling to take a job that seems to be below them obviously have enough comfort level to turn down the job. Perhaps the things that lead to the comfort level should not be provided or reduced by the government? Many don't take advantage of the k-12 public education that was free to them and are unlikely to take advantage of training ...especially if it requires going backward to learn what should have already been learned. FWIW, I use to joke around with a buyer telling him that when I quit work I'm going to go out park beside a handicap parking spot and video the people that park there and post them on Facebook. Many of those people appear to be just fine...no oxygen, no visual struggles and yet I can also see people that have some visual struggles walking past the handicap parking. There are a LOT of people that believe they are victims...that are not.
Most of the time turning down a job is not a moral issue as you typed, but can certainly be a character thing. Our views obviously have some differences due to our own experiences.
Terrible! Back then I was quite clear that Biden had zero business running for President at his age and state of mental capacity.
Staffers also lied about Reagan's second term Alzheimer's.
The difference is that Trump is the drastically mentally diminished CURRENT President, and Trump has dictatorial tendencies that in his current state he is very much acting out on.
That is TDS nonsense. You don't like what he's doing but he nas no symptoms of dementia. You Trump haters would have more credibility if you stopped making up crap like this.
The 'logical progression' of your answer is that Trump has been president for many decades, katBWM. Your BB crown is safe -- for now.
Yeah, that was BS too.
Are you admitting trump is lying or just doing a whataboutism? Or is it ok if trump does it?
I have told you repeatedly that Trump is a loose cannon. What comes out of his mouth is often gibberish. Nonetheless, his agenda is far better than the open borders, DEI, transgenders in womens' sports Biden zombie.
As long as you’re cool with incompetence, economic idiocy, and loss of international alliances, it’s completely worth getting rid of something like six transgender athletes. As a bonus, an American with a criminal conviction is now open for deportation to a max facility in El Salvador.
Thanks goodness at least he stopped all those wars.
Which American with a criminal conviction is open for that, katBMW?
Your TDS hysteria has been the key to your triumph in winning and keeping the Bagram Bob Award - at least for now.
Last edited:
Does loose cannon gibberish include lying about his appearance and physical stats.........so obviously false a blind man could see it?
Stop repeating the script. He told a big, fat lie......because he's so vain, among other personality flaws.
I'm not gonna beat you up with it. Just say it. I'm just looking for one trumper that doesn't seem afraid to tell the truth about the president.
Similar threads
