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Thoughts on Swanigan....

pboiler18

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1. I doubt Kentucky is in much contact. They only continue to recruit kids who want to be there. I don't think they factor in the decision.
2. Duke is probably the worst fit for his game at this point. With Okafor leaving, Swanigan will most likely be their best post option and will be forced to play the 5 spot a lot. I think Swanigan would thrive in a Justice Winslow type role...but it will be hard to take that from Winslow if he's still there.
3. I think MSU is out for him right now TBH. They already have a talented PF coming in. No real big time option at the 5. I could see him getting a lot of minutes for them....but it would most likely be against his wishes at the 5 spot.
4. The Cal package deal is weird to me. A kid from GA and a kid from IN? Why would they want to go play out there? For THAT program? Obviously, love the coach....but that's about as far from a power program as you can get. I don't think there would be any debate from any basketball expert that Cal is in the weakest position of the schools on his list (besides Chicago St.) as far as current program standing and legacy. That said...all it takes is getting those good players to turn perception around. That said, Cal seems to be the choice to not upset MSU or Purdue people...not necessarily in his best interest career wise. Not a lot of east coast exposure for those Pac-12 teams.
5. Purdue is the perfect spot for him. Hammons most likely comes back. We would be REALLY good with Swanigan and Haas and Hammons AND Taylor coming back from injury. Throw Edwards in as a guy that can play the 4 and we are LOADED. That said, Purdue isn't a SEXY option...and with his intent to be a 1 and done...Purdue is probably the place where he gets the least overall hype in the media. That said, I think Purdue becomes the best team in the BIG next year with him in place...so there's definitely a risk with him coming here and not getting exposure...but I also think the reward is a deep tourney run with a pretty good surrounding cast.

Obviously I'm biased but I think it comes down to Purdue and Cal...and I hope he picks us!
 
RE: Cal.

AAU circuit is closing distances. The two most likely met on the national circuit. Also, dont discount the relationship between Zo and Barnes.
 
Originally posted by nat100:
RE: Cal.

AAU circuit is closing distances. The two most likely met on the national circuit. Also, dont discount the relationship between Zo and Barnes.
Is there one though? They weren't in school at the same time.

It seems that it might have been forged in Purdue circles....but I had never heard of them being pals before like 2 weeks ago.

Not doubting it...but there's a 10+ year age gap right?
 
Originally posted by pboiler18:
Originally posted by nat100:
RE: Cal.

AAU circuit is closing distances. The two most likely met on the national circuit. Also, dont discount the relationship between Zo and Barnes.
Is there one though? They weren't in school at the same time.

It seems that it might have been forged in Purdue circles....but I had never heard of them being pals before like 2 weeks ago.

Not doubting it...but there's a 10+ year age gap right?
According to some of the national recruiting guys. Have no reason to doubt them.
 
Originally posted by pboiler18:
Originally posted by nat100:
RE: Cal.

AAU circuit is closing distances. The two most likely met on the national circuit. Also, dont discount the relationship between Zo and Barnes.
Is there one though? They weren't in school at the same time.

It seems that it might have been forged in Purdue circles....but I had never heard of them being pals before like 2 weeks ago.

Not doubting it...but there's a 10+ year age gap right?
Roosevelt Barnes is 56, and Cuonzo Martin is 43.
 
Originally posted by nat100:

Originally posted by pboiler18:
Originally posted by nat100:
RE: Cal.

AAU circuit is closing distances. The two most likely met on the national circuit. Also, dont discount the relationship between Zo and Barnes.
Is there one though? They weren't in school at the same time.

It seems that it might have been forged in Purdue circles....but I had never heard of them being pals before like 2 weeks ago.

Not doubting it...but there's a 10+ year age gap right?
According to some of the national recruiting guys. Have no reason to doubt them.
Ehhh...I do. They are just producing a story. Not a ton of research done anymore when writing pieces. I think some people see the Purdue ties and just think that they are old pals.

Not that that potentially aren't....just saying that if I'm hearing it for the first time from a 3rd party "Guru", im taking it with a grain of salt.
 
I'm thinking this one is cal msu or purdue.... Who knows which? My guess msu
 
Originally posted by Bill4411:

I would rather he play for the Russian national team than MSU.
As others have pointed out, not sure he has a spot at MSU as they have a 5* forward and he has said he doesn't want to play the 5 in college. But, you never know.
 
this guy seems like a perfect fit for purdue, with our bigs, he seems to really want to play the 4 and MSU doesn't give him that from what I see. That being said the have the selling point of green and how well he's doing this year in the nba. But green was a 4 year player. I am optimistic about our chances.
 
When you win, you are "sexy". We got all the attention in the world with the Baby Boilers.
 
I would love for us to get him, but my gut say's MSU. Izzo will tell him anything he wants to hear... CMP will not. Also with Duke with only 8 players on scholly & probably losing 2 or 3 after last night, I'm guessing Coach K will come calling.
 
Don't have time to look it up, but are all the schools on his list Nike? I would mark any that are not Nike off the list.
 
Don't think that really matters. People commit to Nike schools at the Under Armour High School All-American football game.

This post was edited on 4/7 3:18 PM by lbodel
 
Funny thing is izzo told Dawson he would be stuck playing center at purdue..... Boy was that a misstatement to say the least. Now now the msu fans are saying izzo doesn't make promises that's paintrr according to them.
 
Originally posted by lbodel:
Wasn't it one person?
Jerry Meyer was the first one i saw say anything. Not sure if the others are just using that.

He usually has his facts straight.
 
Originally posted by beenhummeled?:

And we took advantage of being "sexy" by landing Bade and Tacos.
Ouch. Here's hoping the real recruting turnaround started in 2014 with solid players like Haas and VE. We know of the abysmal recruiting from 2008-2011. 2012 was thought to be the start of something special, but turned out to be an average or slightly above average class. 2013 was touted as even better by some, but with one gone and the other 2 coming off the bench, it's turned out to be below average (Stephens could make a big jump, but after expecting it in year 2, I'm not really expecting it as much in year 3). So really overall recruiting from 2008 - 2013 was not very good. 2014 was solid, with a very good player in VE, a player in Haas who could have started this year if we didn't have AJH, a good stopgap PG if you count Octeus and 2 potential role players (or better, who knows).

2015 doesn't look overly impressive on paper, but maybe Cline and Weatherford end up a lot better than their rankings and offer list suggest they will be. I'm not nearly as optimistic about our HC and future (including next year... who will run the point and where will the shooting come from?) but we certainly have some pieces. Just need more development especially with our "shooters", a PG, and some additional special talent (Swanigan, please) and we could be a special team. However, I think that is asking a lot.
 
If it is his ambition to go to a Final Four, he won't be coming to Purdue. I got a feeling he will be wearing green and white.
 
Damn the negativity....maybe the kid will be entirely selfish want to play with Hammons so he can highlight his NBA potential and be a one and done. Hell CTC landed a 5 star, what is his pitch" even with the best program, two 1st rd draft picks and my inability to coach in game will get us eliminated in the 2nd round"
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Yeah, PU should just stop his recruitment.............but wait, you all want 5 star players in the program so maybe PU should keep it up..........but wait, none of these 5 star players would want to come here............but wait, why doesn't CMP go after these guys more..........but wait..........

SMH
 
Originally posted by Bill4411:

I would rather he play for the Russian national team than MSU.


+100

This post was edited on 4/7 4:46 PM by Dandelion1972
 
Originally posted by PU pit bull:

Yeah, PU should just stop his recruitment.............but wait, you all want 5 star players in the program so maybe PU should keep it up..........but wait, none of these 5 star players would want to come here............but wait, why doesn't CMP go after these guys more..........but wait..........

SMH
Good thing he's not a point guard.

And someone said I need a beer. Let's all go to the bar and discuss this. We''ll change the world in one sitting:):):) one pitcher at a time.
 
Originally posted by GemstateBoiler:
Originally posted by PU pit bull:

Yeah, PU should just stop his recruitment.............but wait, you all want 5 star players in the program so maybe PU should keep it up..........but wait, none of these 5 star players would want to come here............but wait, why doesn't CMP go after these guys more..........but wait..........

SMH
Good thing he's not a point guard.

And someone said I need a beer. Let's all go to the bar and discuss this. We''ll change the world in one sitting:):):) one pitcher at a time.
It was me Gem, after your deleted "grammar" post....lol

Still....a good idea.

"Drinks all around, " and water for the horses.
 
Originally posted by GemstateBoiler:

Originally posted by PU pit bull:

Yeah, PU should just stop his recruitment.............but wait, you all want 5 star players in the program so maybe PU should keep it up..........but wait, none of these 5 star players would want to come here............but wait, why doesn't CMP go after these guys more..........but wait..........

SMH
Good thing he's not a point guard.

And someone said I need a beer. Let's all go to the bar and discuss this. We''ll change the world in one sitting:):):) one pitcher at a time.
No kidding, LOL. Hey, here's a question for the board, sort of off topic and sort of not.............which news would be more important to the program, Hammons staying or getting Swanigan? I'll take both, but I would rather have the proven performer if I had to make the choice. Anyway, just a question that ran thru the noggin today.
 
Originally posted by Purdue Grad in Texas:



It was me Gem, after your deleted "grammar" post....lol

Still....a good idea.

"Drinks all around, " and water for the horses.
Yep that was it after he ruffled my feathers. Sometimes nothing bothers me, then others times Grrrr!

This post was edited on 4/7 5:09 PM by GemstateBoiler
 
Originally posted by PU pit bull:

Originally posted by GemstateBoiler:


Originally posted by PU pit bull:

Yeah, PU should just stop his recruitment.............but wait, you all want 5 star players in the program so maybe PU should keep it up..........but wait, none of these 5 star players would want to come here............but wait, why doesn't CMP go after these guys more..........but wait..........

SMH
Good thing he's not a point guard.

And someone said I need a beer. Let's all go to the bar and discuss this. We''ll change the world in one sitting:):):) one pitcher at a time.
No kidding, LOL. Hey, here's a question for the board, sort of off topic and sort of not.............which news would be more important to the program, Hammons staying or getting Swanigan? I'll take both, but I would rather have the proven performer if I had to make the choice. Anyway, just a question that ran thru the noggin today.
That's a tough one. I guess I may lean towards Swanigan only because Haas is back for 3 years and Biggie for awhile. Still a balance beam question though.
 
Originally posted by GemstateBoiler:

Originally posted by PU pit bull:


Originally posted by GemstateBoiler:



Originally posted by PU pit bull:

Yeah, PU should just stop his recruitment.............but wait, you all want 5 star players in the program so maybe PU should keep it up..........but wait, none of these 5 star players would want to come here............but wait, why doesn't CMP go after these guys more..........but wait..........

SMH
Good thing he's not a point guard.

And someone said I need a beer. Let's all go to the bar and discuss this. We''ll change the world in one sitting:):):) one pitcher at a time.
No kidding, LOL. Hey, here's a question for the board, sort of off topic and sort of not.............which news would be more important to the program, Hammons staying or getting Swanigan? I'll take both, but I would rather have the proven performer if I had to make the choice. Anyway, just a question that ran thru the noggin today.
That's a tough one. I guess I may lean towards Swanigan only because Haas is back for 3 years and Biggie for awhile. Still a balance beam question though.
Yep, I was thinking along the same lines, but Swanigan's stay was what I was pondering about. Damn, I wish I still had my psychic abilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Swanigan.





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I'm hearing that Caleb Swanigan is down to #Purdue & #Cal. Ironic that former #Boiler Cuonzo Martin coaches at Cal.
 
Originally posted by *4purdue*:
I would love for us to get him, but my gut say's MSU. Izzo will tell him anything he wants to hear... CMP will not. Also with Duke with only 8 players on scholly & probably losing 2 or 3 after last night, I'm guessing Coach K will come calling.
Good Lord you guys must wear tin foil hats. Never witnessed such a myopic fan base.
What makes you think Izzo needs to lie to rcrts? Did this cockeyed view of MSU and Izzo exist prior to Dawson"s rcrtmnt? Iirc, many felt T Trice was offered solely in order to land Dawson. That he wasn't a B1G level talent? Wrongo.

And, according to other poster Dawson was told.....by Izzo....he'd have to play C if he chose PU? Honestly, where do you guys come up w/ this stuff? I hope you know how completely out to lunch you sound talking about the best ambassador the conf. has in bb or fb, athletics...period, as if he was a Lou Henson level cheater. To assert that Izzo is shady or of questionable character in any way is just dumb.

As for Swanigan, I believe PU is, based on the attention your pair of 7 footers 'd attract at C, the best fit from a personnel standpoint.The big question mark, mentioned in other threads, being, who's your pg going to be? All that frontcourt and wing talent's wasted unless you can find at least a functional pg. PJ Thompson and Grant Weatherford? Brahahahahahahaha
 
Originally posted by JDMEvergreen:

Originally posted by *4purdue*:
I would love for us to get him, but my gut say's MSU. Izzo will tell him anything he wants to hear... CMP will not. Also with Duke with only 8 players on scholly & probably losing 2 or 3 after last night, I'm guessing Coach K will come calling.
Good Lord you guys must wear tin foil hats. Never witnessed such a myopic fan base.
What makes you think Izzo needs to lie to rcrts? Did this cockeyed view of MSU and Izzo exist prior to Dawson"s rcrtmnt? Iirc, many felt T Trice was offered solely in order to land Dawson. That he wasn't a B1G level talent? Wrongo.

And, according to other poster Dawson was told.....by Izzo....he'd have to play C if he chose PU? Honestly, where do you guys come up w/ this stuff? I hope you know how completely out to lunch you sound talking about the best ambassador the conf. has in bb or fb, athletics...period, as if he was a Lou Henson level cheater. To assert that Izzo is shady or of questionable character in any way is just dumb.

As for Swanigan, I believe PU is, based on the attention your pair of 7 footers 'd attract at C, the best fit from a personnel standpoint.The big question mark, mentioned in other threads, being, who's your pg going to be? All that frontcourt and wing talent's wasted unless you can find at least a functional pg. PJ Thompson and Grant Weatherford? Brahahahahahahaha
Ah somebody needs a hug
 
Originally posted by JDMEvergreen:


Originally posted by *4purdue*:
I would love for us to get him, but my gut say's MSU. Izzo will tell him anything he wants to hear... CMP will not. Also with Duke with only 8 players on scholly & probably losing 2 or 3 after last night, I'm guessing Coach K will come calling.
Good Lord you guys must wear tin foil hats. Never witnessed such a myopic fan base.
What makes you think Izzo needs to lie to rcrts? Did this cockeyed view of MSU and Izzo exist prior to Dawson"s rcrtmnt? Iirc, many felt T Trice was offered solely in order to land Dawson. That he wasn't a B1G level talent? Wrongo.

And, according to other poster Dawson was told.....by Izzo....he'd have to play C if he chose PU? Honestly, where do you guys come up w/ this stuff? I hope you know how completely out to lunch you sound talking about the best ambassador the conf. has in bb or fb, athletics...period, as if he was a Lou Henson level cheater. To assert that Izzo is shady or of questionable character in any way is just dumb.

As for Swanigan, I believe PU is, based on the attention your pair of 7 footers 'd attract at C, the best fit from a personnel standpoint.The big question mark, mentioned in other threads, being, who's your pg going to be? All that frontcourt and wing talent's wasted unless you can find at least a functional pg. PJ Thompson and Grant Weatherford? Brahahahahahahaha
If I remember right it was CousinofSparty who posted all that stuff.
 
It was indeed cousinofsparty it's comical, a few of them anyhow. They come hear tell us their fake negative inside scoop then twist it to where we fabricated it
 
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