Bring back ineligibilty for freshman. The corruption in recruiting will disappear overnight if these five-star high schoolers cannot play "varsity" basketyball their first year in college.
The O*N*L*Y way the NCAA can stop the one-and-done
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Not true. Let them go pro or go to football model. No one is forcing kids to college. Plenty of international or lower leagues to play in.
The rule preventing players going to the NBA directly from high school is an NBA policy, not NCAA.
I don't know if you are referring to my post. I know that, just saying frosh ineligibility isn't the only way. I'm surprise the players union allows them to come and take veteran jobs so easy. Seems contrary to union credos of job security. The drafting on potential is stealing the gig of someone that actually can perform.
Right. My OP referred to the only way the NCAA can stop the one-and-done. Obviously the NBA could stop it with an NFL type rule.
Just think of the immediate impact on recruiting. A guy like Romeo Langford would be ignored by coaches. They'd be looking for lower 4-stars and 3-stars who would be around for 3-4 years.
How would that change anything? If you're going to pay a top 5 player from the class of 2018 to play basketball at your school for the 2018-2019 season and all of a sudden nobody in that class can play in 2018-2019 then they'll still pay that player to come to the school and play the following year.
If your point is that that player would go to the NBA before being eligible to play in college, then they will start paying the kids that aren't headed straight to the NBA. No matter how you slice it, programs are going to battle over the top players available and some will inevitably find ways to cheat.
If your point is that that player would go to the NBA before being eligible to play in college, then they will start paying the kids that aren't headed straight to the NBA. No matter how you slice it, programs are going to battle over the top players available and some will inevitably find ways to cheat.
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I understand your point on this, but not sure I totally agree. Hypothetically if you eliminate the top 15-20 college freshman and make them NBA eligible out of HS, then yes, there becomes a new list of top 15-20 college freshman. The question is whether the shoe companies would see as big an ROI and simply "invest" in that new list of top 15-20 of players. You may be right that their strategy stays the same, but the dollars would have to go way down I'd think. The players most likely to sign one of those big shoe deals are not in college anymore. If it's the best players that shoe companies want to "invest" in, seems logical the money will follow them... which will be outside the college world.
You might essentially cut out much of the shoe company involvement this way but I think it would just trigger money coming from elsewhere. When there is competition for whoever the top players are, the programs competing for those players are going to do all they can to land them and inevitably there will be those willing to break the rules if they think they can get away with it. The shoe companies may not care but others will and money can/will come from other sources.
Couple of things here, TC43.
(1) I didn't say frosh ineligibility would stop corruption, I said it would stop the one-and-done, and it will.
(2) The shoe companies can be stopped by a simple rule: Any equipment company that is found to have paid cash to any HS/AAU amateur or his parents, coaches, handlers, whatever, will have all shoes, uniforms and other athletic products banned from all NCAA competition for ten years.
Extrapolate that thought...would the top dog coaches/programs, that do not go to prison, take the players we normally recruit? Given your premise I would say yes. Does this help or hurt Purdue?
I think it still helps as there are very few really high impact players (1 and dines) who now make a small number of teams very hard to beat in the tournament. They would be out of the picture.
But there are a greater number of kids who are closer in ability to each other as you move down the top 150 thus helping Purdue in terms of relative capability.
Exactly. You are 100% correct. Take out the NBA first-rounders from every HS class and there are 150 kids of more or less equal ability who may develop and may not. So which 25 is Adidas gonna fund?
You don't get it. If they go to Europe, It stops the one-and-done in US colleges. Heck, kids can go play in Europe right now.
Adjust the rpi so it hurts teams if players don't graduate. Now they only have to leave in good standing.
Of course a school like UNC will offer a degree in AAS that will grant a degree in one year.
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