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Database Lists 12 Million People Older Than 120 as Eligible for Social Security: Musk

The database reportedly includes millions of supercentenarians and outnumbers the current U.S. population.

interesting thread when clicked on

More than 12 million people in the Social Security Administration (SSA) database of eligible benefits recipients are listed as being older than 120, according to data shared by tech billionaire Elon Musk.

Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, discovered the data while reviewing SSA records for potential waste or fraud.

“According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to false!” Musk wrote on social media platform X, which he owns, on Feb. 17, sharing a chart of the various age brackets.

The chart shows that there are more than 17 million centenarians who are marked as alive and eligible for benefits in the SSA system, of whom more than 12 million are allegedly older than 120.

More than 1,000 individuals are listed as being between the ages of 220 and 229.

Another person is purportedly in the 240 to 249 age bracket, and the oldest person in the system is listed as older than the United States itself at more than 360 years old.

The oldest living person in the world, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, is Tomiko Itooka, 116, of Japan.

“Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security,” Musk wrote in jest.

SSA data also reflect that the number of eligible Social Security recipients in the system is more than 398 million, yet the Census Bureau estimates the national population to be roughly 341 million.

When another user pointed out the impossibility of the data, Musk confirmed that “there are far more ‘eligible’ social security numbers than there are citizens” in the United States.

“This might be the biggest fraud in history,” he said.

DOGE is delving into federal agencies’ records and systems as part of its mission to enhance government efficiency by cutting costs and rooting out institutional waste.

President Donald Trump established the temporary organization within the U.S. DOGE Service, formerly named the U.S. Digital Service, on his first day in office.

He gave Musk’s team until July 4, 2026, to achieve its goal of $2 trillion in federal spending cuts before the organization is dissolved.
The White House says total DOGE cuts have topped $3.4 billion so far.

They include more than $1 billion in axed diversity, equity, and inclusion contracts and grants; $881 million in canceled Department of Education contracts; and $59 million clawed back from New York City in Federal Emergency Management Agency funds for housing illegal immigrants.

The White House has also turned to personnel cuts as a source of savings and increased efficiency.

Some 75,000 federal workers accepted the administration’s buyout offer by the Feb. 12 deadline, allowing them to continue collecting full pay and benefits through Sept. 30 as they seek alternative employment.

Mass layoffs have begun to sweep federal agencies.

An executive order that the president signed on Feb. 11 directed all agency heads to prepare for “large-scale reductions in force,” prioritizing temporary employees and those who perform functions not mandated by law.

“By eliminating waste, bloat, and insularity, my administration will empower American families, workers, taxpayers, and our system of government itself,” the order reads.
 
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Database Lists 12 Million People Older Than 120 as Eligible for Social Security: Musk

The database reportedly includes millions of supercentenarians and outnumbers the current U.S. population.

interesting thread when clicked on

More than 12 million people in the Social Security Administration (SSA) database of eligible benefits recipients are listed as being older than 120, according to data shared by tech billionaire Elon Musk.

Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, discovered the data while reviewing SSA records for potential waste or fraud.

“According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to false!” Musk wrote on social media platform X, which he owns, on Feb. 17, sharing a chart of the various age brackets.

The chart shows that there are more than 17 million centenarians who are marked as alive and eligible for benefits in the SSA system, of whom more than 12 million are allegedly older than 120.

More than 1,000 individuals are listed as being between the ages of 220 and 229.

Another person is purportedly in the 240 to 249 age bracket, and the oldest person in the system is listed as older than the United States itself at more than 360 years old.

The oldest living person in the world, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, is Tomiko Itooka, 116, of Japan.

“Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security,” Musk wrote in jest.

SSA data also reflect that the number of eligible Social Security recipients in the system is more than 398 million, yet the Census Bureau estimates the national population to be roughly 341 million.

When another user pointed out the impossibility of the data, Musk confirmed that “there are far more ‘eligible’ social security numbers than there are citizens” in the United States.

“This might be the biggest fraud in history,” he said.

DOGE is delving into federal agencies’ records and systems as part of its mission to enhance government efficiency by cutting costs and rooting out institutional waste.

President Donald Trump established the temporary organization within the U.S. DOGE Service, formerly named the U.S. Digital Service, on his first day in office.

He gave Musk’s team until July 4, 2026, to achieve its goal of $2 trillion in federal spending cuts before the organization is dissolved.
The White House says total DOGE cuts have topped $3.4 billion so far.

They include more than $1 billion in axed diversity, equity, and inclusion contracts and grants; $881 million in canceled Department of Education contracts; and $59 million clawed back from New York City in Federal Emergency Management Agency funds for housing illegal immigrants.

The White House has also turned to personnel cuts as a source of savings and increased efficiency.

Some 75,000 federal workers accepted the administration’s buyout offer by the Feb. 12 deadline, allowing them to continue collecting full pay and benefits through Sept. 30 as they seek alternative employment.

Mass layoffs have begun to sweep federal agencies.

An executive order that the president signed on Feb. 11 directed all agency heads to prepare for “large-scale reductions in force,” prioritizing temporary employees and those who perform functions not mandated by law.

“By eliminating waste, bloat, and insularity, my administration will empower American families, workers, taxpayers, and our system of government itself,” the order reads.
Big government leads to BIGGER fraud, 100% of the time.
 
Big government leads to BIGGER fraud, 100% of the time.
As I have previously posted the USA has not had the sustaining 2.1 births needed to hold steady the population and if you take 1 million legally between 1980 and 2020 the 40 million does not explain the difference between the census numbers for those years. Bottom line...lack of transparency and accuracy has not been a priority for "many" years and we know the last four years have crushed those numbers...
 
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Database Lists 12 Million People Older Than 120 as Eligible for Social Security: Musk

The database reportedly includes millions of supercentenarians and outnumbers the current U.S. population.

interesting thread when clicked on

More than 12 million people in the Social Security Administration (SSA) database of eligible benefits recipients are listed as being older than 120, according to data shared by tech billionaire Elon Musk.

Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, discovered the data while reviewing SSA records for potential waste or fraud.

“According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to false!” Musk wrote on social media platform X, which he owns, on Feb. 17, sharing a chart of the various age brackets.

The chart shows that there are more than 17 million centenarians who are marked as alive and eligible for benefits in the SSA system, of whom more than 12 million are allegedly older than 120.

More than 1,000 individuals are listed as being between the ages of 220 and 229.

Another person is purportedly in the 240 to 249 age bracket, and the oldest person in the system is listed as older than the United States itself at more than 360 years old.

The oldest living person in the world, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, is Tomiko Itooka, 116, of Japan.

“Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security,” Musk wrote in jest.

SSA data also reflect that the number of eligible Social Security recipients in the system is more than 398 million, yet the Census Bureau estimates the national population to be roughly 341 million.

When another user pointed out the impossibility of the data, Musk confirmed that “there are far more ‘eligible’ social security numbers than there are citizens” in the United States.

“This might be the biggest fraud in history,” he said.

DOGE is delving into federal agencies’ records and systems as part of its mission to enhance government efficiency by cutting costs and rooting out institutional waste.

President Donald Trump established the temporary organization within the U.S. DOGE Service, formerly named the U.S. Digital Service, on his first day in office.

He gave Musk’s team until July 4, 2026, to achieve its goal of $2 trillion in federal spending cuts before the organization is dissolved.
The White House says total DOGE cuts have topped $3.4 billion so far.

They include more than $1 billion in axed diversity, equity, and inclusion contracts and grants; $881 million in canceled Department of Education contracts; and $59 million clawed back from New York City in Federal Emergency Management Agency funds for housing illegal immigrants.

The White House has also turned to personnel cuts as a source of savings and increased efficiency.

Some 75,000 federal workers accepted the administration’s buyout offer by the Feb. 12 deadline, allowing them to continue collecting full pay and benefits through Sept. 30 as they seek alternative employment.

Mass layoffs have begun to sweep federal agencies.

An executive order that the president signed on Feb. 11 directed all agency heads to prepare for “large-scale reductions in force,” prioritizing temporary employees and those who perform functions not mandated by law.

“By eliminating waste, bloat, and insularity, my administration will empower American families, workers, taxpayers, and our system of government itself,” the order reads.
So if 17,000,000 get, let’s say $20,000 per year, for 20 years, my calculator says that’s 6.8e12!
Or 6.8 Trillion😩
 
Musk is a dipshit. They know who they send checks to and how much they spend. This is just grandstanding. Is there fraud? Certainly but it’s not at this scale.
 
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ss cost 1.2T in 2022. I don't know what the average ss draw is but if we say 20k per year, that's 61M on ss. Doesn't seem outlandish to me. Population 60 and over is 79M.
 
Database Lists 12 Million People Older Than 120 as Eligible for Social Security: Musk

The database reportedly includes millions of supercentenarians and outnumbers the current U.S. population.

interesting thread when clicked on

More than 12 million people in the Social Security Administration (SSA) database of eligible benefits recipients are listed as being older than 120, according to data shared by tech billionaire Elon Musk.

Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, discovered the data while reviewing SSA records for potential waste or fraud.

“According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to false!” Musk wrote on social media platform X, which he owns, on Feb. 17, sharing a chart of the various age brackets.

The chart shows that there are more than 17 million centenarians who are marked as alive and eligible for benefits in the SSA system, of whom more than 12 million are allegedly older than 120.

More than 1,000 individuals are listed as being between the ages of 220 and 229.

Another person is purportedly in the 240 to 249 age bracket, and the oldest person in the system is listed as older than the United States itself at more than 360 years old.

The oldest living person in the world, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, is Tomiko Itooka, 116, of Japan.

“Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security,” Musk wrote in jest.

SSA data also reflect that the number of eligible Social Security recipients in the system is more than 398 million, yet the Census Bureau estimates the national population to be roughly 341 million.

When another user pointed out the impossibility of the data, Musk confirmed that “there are far more ‘eligible’ social security numbers than there are citizens” in the United States.

“This might be the biggest fraud in history,” he said.

DOGE is delving into federal agencies’ records and systems as part of its mission to enhance government efficiency by cutting costs and rooting out institutional waste.

President Donald Trump established the temporary organization within the U.S. DOGE Service, formerly named the U.S. Digital Service, on his first day in office.

He gave Musk’s team until July 4, 2026, to achieve its goal of $2 trillion in federal spending cuts before the organization is dissolved.
The White House says total DOGE cuts have topped $3.4 billion so far.

They include more than $1 billion in axed diversity, equity, and inclusion contracts and grants; $881 million in canceled Department of Education contracts; and $59 million clawed back from New York City in Federal Emergency Management Agency funds for housing illegal immigrants.

The White House has also turned to personnel cuts as a source of savings and increased efficiency.

Some 75,000 federal workers accepted the administration’s buyout offer by the Feb. 12 deadline, allowing them to continue collecting full pay and benefits through Sept. 30 as they seek alternative employment.

Mass layoffs have begun to sweep federal agencies.

An executive order that the president signed on Feb. 11 directed all agency heads to prepare for “large-scale reductions in force,” prioritizing temporary employees and those who perform functions not mandated by law.

“By eliminating waste, bloat, and insularity, my administration will empower American families, workers, taxpayers, and our system of government itself,” the order reads.
Did you really just take this at face value and believe what Musk said? You, the king of "the dems believe whatever they're told by the liberal media", continue to do the same thing.

The shadow president has NO IDEA what the numbers mean or how the SSA system works. But he's rich so he knows everything.

So rather than question the ridiculous numbers and do a few minutes of research, you rush over to start a thread........and demonstrate how ludicrous it is to put him and his team of twentysomethings of finding waste and fraud.
 
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Did you really just take this at face value and believe what Musk said? You, the king of "the dems believe whatever they're told by the liberal media", continue to do the same thing.

The shadow president has NO IDEA what the numbers mean or how the SSA system works. But he's rich so he knows everything.

So rather than question the ridiculous numbers and do a few minutes of research, you rush over to start a thread........and demonstrate how ludicrous it is to put him and his team of twentysomethings of finding waste and fraud.
Do you hate George Soros as much as you hate Trump? If not, why
 
Musk is a dipshit. They know who they send checks to and how much they spend. This is just grandstanding. Is there fraud? Certainly but it’s not at this scale.
Who told you that? The government? You probably also didn't think we were giving Uganda millions of American tax payer dollars to fund trans initiatives did you?
 
Did you really just take this at face value and believe what Musk said? You, the king of "the dems believe whatever they're told by the liberal media", continue to do the same thing.

The shadow president has NO IDEA what the numbers mean or how the SSA system works. But he's rich so he knows everything.

So rather than question the ridiculous numbers and do a few minutes of research, you rush over to start a thread........and demonstrate how ludicrous it is to put him and his team of twentysomethings of finding waste and fraud.
not sure what you said in disagreement other than you don't want to believe it...but the hits keep on coming...
 
Yet again, the woke are more obsessed with the fraud being exposed than they are with the fraud itself. What shameful losers.
who would have believed there was a deep state a few years ago. The difference between conspiracy theories and reality is about 6 months!
 
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so 9B per year on average...on a 1.2T program. So what's that fraud rate? Way less than any bank on the planet. Should it be fixed? Yes. Was it anywhere close to what Musk was alluding to? No.
Ya know I had a friend I would see in Florida in July at the condo I had at the time that was a multimillionaire. One of his sons at the time was renting a house to Bruce Springsteen for 35 K a month. He owned some paper factory I don't recall the specifics. He was but one Italian in the group, but being older he had saved his money. He was like a Godfather to the kids and had several relatives that were in the Godfather movie. He would buy Pizza for us but it was always "cheese" or in Italy perhaps Margherita Pizza and recall his wife going to garage sales and buying $1 air popcorn poppers. He was much different and richer than my other Italian friend whose mother was a bookie and bought condos just to hide some money. What I am saying is they are finding a lot of waste and I'm not naive enough to think some of this doesn't all go as it appears on the surface. I'm ecstatic that someone finally is trying to reel in the waste and bloated blob and this by no means is the total. It is but another waste. If every place you look has waste, don't you think it will show up in other places? There is nothing in your life relative to the government that poses as significant result for so many as what is going on now.
 
Ya know I had a friend I would see in Florida in July at the condo I had at the time that was a multimillionaire. One of his sons at the time was renting a house to Bruce Springsteen for 35 K a month. He owned some paper factory I don't recall the specifics. He was but one Italian in the group, but being older he had saved his money. He was like a Godfather to the kids and had several relatives that were in the Godfather movie. He would buy Pizza for us but it was always "cheese" or in Italy perhaps Margherita Pizza and recall his wife going to garage sales and buying $1 air popcorn poppers. He was much different and richer than my other Italian friend whose mother was a bookie and bought condos just to hide some money. What I am saying is they are finding a lot of waste and I'm not naive enough to think some of this doesn't all go as it appears on the surface. I'm ecstatic that someone finally is trying to reel in the waste and bloated blob and this by no means is the total. It is but another waste. If every place you look has waste, don't you think it will show up in other places? There is nothing in your life relative to the government that poses as significant result for so many as what is going on now.
I live in a fact based world. I loathe sleezy salesmen who push data without any real understanding. I'm happy for waste to be eliminated, but be fact based. I don't trust anyone who bought their access to the government.
 
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not sure what you said in disagreement other than you don't want to believe it...but the hits keep on coming...
He's WRONG. He doesn't understand the system or the glitches and inconsistencies in it. He looks at a piece of paper with numbers on it and draws the wrong conclusions. This is just one of the problems with putting a billionaire and a bunch of twentysomethings in charge of cutting waste. They have no experience or knowledge of what they're evaluating.

And then we have people like you who REALLY DO believe whatever they're told. Five minutes of research would have gotten you to the truth.

The system has many flaws and needs to be fixed. These Bozos should spend their time doing that instead of rushing to X to do a TD dance.

 
I live in a fact based world. I loathe sleezy salesmen who push data without any real understanding. I'm happy for waste to be eliminated, but be fact based. I don't trust anyone who bought their access to the government.
You do realize the the government is and has been using Elon for development on technical things. You may be aware as it is pretty well understood that at some time, money doesn't motivate people. Elon just finds the source of the data and does not dictate...Course sometimes the data is untraceable...on purpose? Probably, why would that be? Sure is different when you have a business person instead of a lifetime politician at the helm.

"DOGE Says $4.7 Trillion in Treasury Payments Missing Identification Codes (now why is that so?)

The payments for unknown items make government spending almost impossible to track, according to the agency.

The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) said on Feb. 17 that a total of $4.7 trillion worth of payments from the Treasury Department are almost impossible to trace because of missing account identification codes.

DOGE said the Treasury Department has assigned identification codes called Treasury Access Symbols (TAS), designed to note which account a Treasury payment is linked to, which DOGE said was a “standard financial process” for bookkeeping. However, the codes were not assigned for trillions of dollars worth of payments as the field was considered optional, according to the agency.

“In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost impossible,” DOGE stated on the social media platform X.

As of Saturday, this is now a required field, increasing insight into where money is actually going. Thanks to U.S. Treasury for the great work.”

According to the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, TAS codes are identification codes assigned by the Treasury to “an individual appropriation, receipt, or other fund account.”

It stated that all financial transactions made by the federal government are typically classified using a TAS code for reporting to the Treasury and the Office of Management and Budget.

Savings Found

DOGE, headed by SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk, also proposed on Monday to eliminate paper checks at the Treasury to help save U.S. taxpayers’ money.

According to the advisory commission created by President Donald Trump, the Treasury processed 116 million paper checks in the fiscal year 2024 and stored them in a lockbox. The estimated cost of maintaining the lockbox is $2.40 per check, it stated.

DOGE also stated that some $25 billion in tax refunds were delayed or lost due to return of expired checks during the fiscal year 2023.

“Deleting paper checks would save at least $750 million per year,” the commission stated on social media platform X.

Trump replaced the existing United States Digital Service with DOGE and asked the commission to review federal agencies for potential downsizing and cost reductions. Trump would have to approve any proposals made by DOGE, which only has a fact-finding and advisory function.

To conduct audits, DOGE has been granted access to federal systems, sparking legal challenges from some Democratic lawmakers and labor unions who argued the access is unconstitutional.

DOGE reported that it found an estimated total savings of $55 billion on Feb. 17, which it said would come from a mix of “fraud detection/deletion, contract/lease cancellations, contract/lease renegotiations, asset sales, grant cancellations, workforce reductions, programmatic changes, and regulatory savings.”

“We are working to upload all of this data in a digestible and fully transparent manner with clear assumptions, consistent with applicable rules and regulations,” DOGE stated on its website.

As of Feb. 17, DOGE placed the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) first in its list of top 10 agencies based on total contract savings, followed by the Department of Education and the Office of Personnel Management. DOGE said its reporting website will be updated twice per week.

Attorneys general from 14 states filed a lawsuit on Feb. 13 challenging the Trump administration’s delegation of government access to Musk. The coalition, led by New Mexico Attorney General Raul Torrez, alleged that the “sweeping authority” granted by the administration to Musk is unconstitutional because he has not been confirmed by the Senate.

The attorneys general asked the court to issue a temporary restraining order barring Musk and DOGE from making any changes to the disbursement of public funds, canceling government contracts, accessing sensitive agency data, and altering agency data systems.

Trump told reporters at the White House earlier in February that Musk “can’t do and won’t do anything without our approval, and we’ll give him the approval where appropriate; where not appropriate, we won’t.” “He reports in,” the president said.

Musk told reporters at the White House on Feb. 11 that Trump and the GOP’s ability to win a government trifecta in the 2024 election was a broader mandate for DOGE’s efforts.

“The people voted for major government reform, and that’s what people are going to get,” the tech billionaire said. “That’s what democracy is all about.”

The White House previously said that Musk is a special government employee under the Trump administration. The position means that Musk’s service would only be temporary.
 
He's WRONG. He doesn't understand the system or the glitches and inconsistencies in it. He looks at a piece of paper with numbers on it and draws the wrong conclusions. This is just one of the problems with putting a billionaire and a bunch of twentysomethings in charge of cutting waste. They have no experience or knowledge of what they're evaluating.

And then we have people like you who REALLY DO believe whatever they're told. Five minutes of research would have gotten you to the truth.

The system has many flaws and needs to be fixed. These Bozos should spend their time doing that instead of rushing to X to do a TD dance.

read on Bob and you will see a fix on untraceable data recently. Why was in untraceable? Tell me are the sources of anything you find accurate based upon history and not misleading? I have no idea where all the waste is taking place in social security and neither do you, but we are finally learning about it. I see you are still hung up about words rather than what actually takes place. I share some Libertarian views and would have no problem taking an axe to everyplace on a certain percent of the heads and budgets because the blob is way too big. Here is an email sent to me this morning. He is a multimillionaire as is his high school friend.

"This is something that I never thought could happen, but boy am I enjoying it. I spend weeks doing all of our family tax returns and computing the several hundred thousand dollars we have to send to the swamp every year, knowing that it won't last a nano-second in the hands of the government, but also knowing we're in deep doo-doo if we don't send the crooks our money. I can't think too much about it because I can become infuriated. The game we have to play in agriculture is stupid also, with the farm programs bailing us out every time there is a downturn, which simply allows our suppliers to keep prices high, and equipment manufacturers to increase prices to the stratosphere so that their unionized employees can make a lot more money than the average farmer at a simple, low hour job with no risk. But, it is the game we are given to play, and we just have to try to play it better than our neighbors"

another email from a different person...ex military


"Ya. I read that about the 4.7 T.
Please pop me some more popcorn as I am enjoying the shit outta this !!"
 
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You do realize the the government is and has been using Elon for development on technical things. You may be aware as it is pretty well understood that at some time, money doesn't motivate people. Elon just finds the source of the data and does not dictate...Course sometimes the data is untraceable...on purpose? Probably, why would that be? Sure is different when you have a business person instead of a lifetime politician at the helm.

"DOGE Says $4.7 Trillion in Treasury Payments Missing Identification Codes (now why is that so?)

The payments for unknown items make government spending almost impossible to track, according to the agency.

The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) said on Feb. 17 that a total of $4.7 trillion worth of payments from the Treasury Department are almost impossible to trace because of missing account identification codes.

DOGE said the Treasury Department has assigned identification codes called Treasury Access Symbols (TAS), designed to note which account a Treasury payment is linked to, which DOGE said was a “standard financial process” for bookkeeping. However, the codes were not assigned for trillions of dollars worth of payments as the field was considered optional, according to the agency.

“In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost impossible,” DOGE stated on the social media platform X.

As of Saturday, this is now a required field, increasing insight into where money is actually going. Thanks to U.S. Treasury for the great work.”

According to the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, TAS codes are identification codes assigned by the Treasury to “an individual appropriation, receipt, or other fund account.”

It stated that all financial transactions made by the federal government are typically classified using a TAS code for reporting to the Treasury and the Office of Management and Budget.

Savings Found

DOGE, headed by SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk, also proposed on Monday to eliminate paper checks at the Treasury to help save U.S. taxpayers’ money.

According to the advisory commission created by President Donald Trump, the Treasury processed 116 million paper checks in the fiscal year 2024 and stored them in a lockbox. The estimated cost of maintaining the lockbox is $2.40 per check, it stated.

DOGE also stated that some $25 billion in tax refunds were delayed or lost due to return of expired checks during the fiscal year 2023.

“Deleting paper checks would save at least $750 million per year,” the commission stated on social media platform X.

Trump replaced the existing United States Digital Service with DOGE and asked the commission to review federal agencies for potential downsizing and cost reductions. Trump would have to approve any proposals made by DOGE, which only has a fact-finding and advisory function.

To conduct audits, DOGE has been granted access to federal systems, sparking legal challenges from some Democratic lawmakers and labor unions who argued the access is unconstitutional.

DOGE reported that it found an estimated total savings of $55 billion on Feb. 17, which it said would come from a mix of “fraud detection/deletion, contract/lease cancellations, contract/lease renegotiations, asset sales, grant cancellations, workforce reductions, programmatic changes, and regulatory savings.”

“We are working to upload all of this data in a digestible and fully transparent manner with clear assumptions, consistent with applicable rules and regulations,” DOGE stated on its website.

As of Feb. 17, DOGE placed the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) first in its list of top 10 agencies based on total contract savings, followed by the Department of Education and the Office of Personnel Management. DOGE said its reporting website will be updated twice per week.

Attorneys general from 14 states filed a lawsuit on Feb. 13 challenging the Trump administration’s delegation of government access to Musk. The coalition, led by New Mexico Attorney General Raul Torrez, alleged that the “sweeping authority” granted by the administration to Musk is unconstitutional because he has not been confirmed by the Senate.

The attorneys general asked the court to issue a temporary restraining order barring Musk and DOGE from making any changes to the disbursement of public funds, canceling government contracts, accessing sensitive agency data, and altering agency data systems.

Trump told reporters at the White House earlier in February that Musk “can’t do and won’t do anything without our approval, and we’ll give him the approval where appropriate; where not appropriate, we won’t.” “He reports in,” the president said.

Musk told reporters at the White House on Feb. 11 that Trump and the GOP’s ability to win a government trifecta in the 2024 election was a broader mandate for DOGE’s efforts.

“The people voted for major government reform, and that’s what people are going to get,” the tech billionaire said. “That’s what democracy is all about.”

The White House previously said that Musk is a special government employee under the Trump administration. The position means that Musk’s service would only be temporary.
Again, as with the death date being set to false in SS, the 4.7T is totally misrepresented by Musk. Was I correct on the SS fraud or not? I don't grandstand and I don't stand to benefit from playing down nor trumping up findings. I guarantee there is not 4.7T in untraceable payments. Just like with SS, Musk doesn't understand what he's looking at.
 
Again, as with the death date being set to false in SS, the 4.7T is totally misrepresented by Musk. Was I correct on the SS fraud or not? I don't grandstand and I don't stand to benefit from playing down nor trumping up findings. I guarantee there is not 4.7T in untraceable payments. Just like with SS, Musk doesn't understand what he's looking at.
You understand I believe that all of this is preliminary findings. The bigger concern for you should be that the lack of traceability of the money spent. No question there is SS fraud. No question we don't know the exact number and no question we don't know the SS numbers in existence for people that have already died and possibly sold as an illegal in video recently would not answer without a lawyer. What we do know is that during your lifetime nobody had attempted to fix the blob that will bankrupt this country unless overhauled. We cannot sustain the spending. What is going on is great. Find the pot of gold in various locations with linkage and then have the forensic accountants deep dive as mentioned in another post snipped below. Looking at data and finding anomalies of various proportions is easy for some that have worked with data. Hell, the 2020 election had anomalies.

Consider the following: Imagine a person is found dead and no weapon found that created the "entrance" wound. Now that person is dead (fact) and was murdered (fact). Not catching the murderer doesn't change the fact of the findings, nor that there was a murderer or several involved which might be revealed at a later date

"The DOGE boys, aged 19 through 25, implement algorithms and AI models requiring significant computational resources, analyzing data for patterns and anomalies rather than individual entries, aiming to identify fraud and waste in departments. This is a simplification; DOGE analyzes government departments to uncover fraud patterns, not personal data like social security numbers or tax information, and the engineers likely use specific natural language queries and prompts. The fact we don't seem to comprehend is they're using new tools nobody had access to before within the government to perform trillions of calculations to put patterns together. You don't need to be a forensic accountant to understand these anomalies and how to find them. You have never had access to the level of computing power these six genius kids have. But if you think these kids are working alone, you're wrong; they just find the anomalies. The forensic accountants, also part of the DOGE team with 30 or 40 years of forensic accounting backgrounds, do the detailed work.
 
What we do know is that during your lifetime nobody had attempted to fix the blob that will bankrupt this country unless overhauled. We cannot sustain the spending. What is going on is great.
SecDef Hegseth has order DOD to plan for 8% cuts in each of the next five years. As a 28-year Army veteran, I can say: Only 8%? I have seen it on the inside and the waste is staggering. First thing should be to stop production of the obsolete F-35 fighter plane.

 
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SecDef Hegseth has order DOD to plan for 8% cuts in each of the next five years. As a 28-year Army veteran, I can say: Only 8%? I have seen it on the inside and the waste is staggering. First thing should be to stop production of the obsolete F-35 fighter plane.

Yeah, I mentioned elsewhere the sacred cow for repubs getting 8% reduction and trying to eliminate the $600 hammers. Trump is searching for tax relief everywhere, because he understands the spending cannot be sustained or there will be irreversible damage done to the country. Instead you can see some people lacking in this understanding protesting and such wanting this damage to take place. Useful idiots helped Lennon and Stalin and we have even more useful idiots in the USA today than years ago
 
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I'm not concerned about the lack of traceability because I know it's a bogus claim. Treasury doesn't randomly release funds.
 
I'm not concerned about the lack of traceability because I know it's a bogus claim. Treasury doesn't randomly release funds.
So, I have had to work with traceability for warranties and such. Sometimes , not just a reduced window but to an individual part inside an individual build. Without traceability you have no way of quantifying the size of an issue. Lacking coding on the sum or money spent which is now fixed, should never have existed. Course businesses are concerned somewhat to limiting their losses when things go bad. Do we think that was just stupid people that had that area for years not identified? Shoot, credit card companies (not all but some) have actual codes for firearm and ammo purchases...and some even refuse the use of a card for such. They obviously wanted to know about the usage of the credit card for armed purchases for some reason...which I think we all know. Why didn't the government want to code and learn for some reason inside certain areas but have traceability in other areas? It is coded now for the future...that is a very good thing
 
So, I have had to work with traceability for warranties and such. Sometimes , not just a reduced window but to an individual part inside an individual build. Without traceability you have no way of quantifying the size of an issue. Lacking coding on the sum or money spent which is now fixed, should never have existed. Course businesses are concerned somewhat to limiting their losses when things go bad. Do we think that was just stupid people that had that area for years not identified? Shoot, credit card companies (not all but some) have actual codes for firearm and ammo purchases...and some even refuse the use of a card for such. They obviously wanted to know about the usage of the credit card for armed purchases for some reason...which I think we all know. Why didn't the government want to code and learn for some reason inside certain areas but have traceability in other areas? It is coded now for the future...that is a very good thing
Army has GFEBS for accounting. Look it up. Under PEO EIS.
 
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