Terrance Shannon
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Seeing reports that it happened in Lawerence during the KU Illinois football game in September. I realize it takes time to gather facts etc before a prosecutor and judge believe there is enough evidence to bring charges. With that said, he is innocent until proven guilty but Illinois has known for 3 months that this might blow up.
Curious if he sees the court again this season.
Damn, talk about a fall from grace. This guy was popping up on All American lists. I was just starting to peep at Illinois as a challenge for our squad...if he's off the team then I can stop looking.
They have another solid guard who was Lance’s teammate who is a scorer too. Not saying easy without Shannon but might be fight.
Domask isn’t the downhill scorer that Shannon was and nowhere near as quick and physical. He can still score don’t get met wrong, but Shannon was different and is what made U of I a possible threat in March.
Thanks! Hadn’t watched any Illinois games yet but saw he was putting up 11/pg and figured he could be a threat.
I hate to hear news like this, even if it hurts a top challenger to Purdue for the Big Ten title.
I’m glad he got caught if he did it.
Agree.
Rape cases are tough to prove, though. I hope they get it correct, whether innocent or guilty.
This had been reported to the courts over 3 months ago. Shannon also notified Illinois officials at that time.
A second report suggested the actual charges are a lot different than what some media and fans are inferring on social media forums.
A third media report posted the victim’s birthdate in BOLD print as if the victim’s age Is the basis of the charges. And this may be why it has taken 3 months before charges were filed.
A second report suggested the actual charges are a lot different than what some media and fans are inferring on social media forums.
A third media report posted the victim’s birthdate in BOLD print as if the victim’s age Is the basis of the charges. And this may be why it has taken 3 months before charges were filed.
I'm assuming the Prosecutor was waiting for some type testing results. Also, don't blame Illinois for waiting until "due process".
The conclusion on rape cases have a very high conviction/judgment rating. Sounds like an unfortunate and/or sad situation for everyone involved.
The conclusion on rape cases have a very high conviction/judgment rating. Sounds like an unfortunate and/or sad situation for everyone involved.
I’ll try to find it. The most insightful accounting came from a news station out of Illinois.
I’m not defending Shannon or his accuser.
see the links below
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here is the link. it includes the wording he was accused of rape or an alternative count of sexual battery. it also says the victim was born in 2005, which would make her 17 or 18. it also says Shannon claims he's innocent.
www.wifr.com
Illinois suspends star basketball player Terrence Shannon Jr. following rape charge
Illinois has suspended basketball player Terrence Shannon Jr. after he was charged with rape for an alleged incident that happened when the football team played at Kansas in September
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this link is from the SUN Times and includes his lawyer's remarks. his lawyer indicates this case has been under investigation for a long time before they decided to file charges.
chicago.suntimes.com
Illinois basketball star Terrence Shannon Jr. charged with rape in Kansas
Shannon was suspended from all activities, effective immediately, the school announced Thursday, one day after a warrant was issued for his arrest.
chicago.suntimes.com
this link is for information purposes only defining Kansas law and why it took 3 months to decide to file charges. Kansas law is different than some states.
https://kslegislature.org/li/b2023_..._article/021_055_0003_section/021_055_0003_k/
https://kslegislature.org/li/b2023_..._article/021_055_0003_section/021_055_0003_k/
If true, that could be a long time in today’s court system. The incident was first reported to authorities on the first week of September and it took until this week for actual charges to be filed.
They’re still good but nowhere near what they were with TSJ. He makes them a top 10 team that could push for a run to the F4. Without him, they may not get out of the first weekend…someone or multiple players could step up of course, but TSJ is what made them contenders.
He is screwed...The Illinois AD is saying he found out about him being charged with rape from the internet like everyone else....His warrent was issued Dec 5th
For the civilian criminal justice system that's pretty fast. Even in the military system, which is substantially quicker, three months from report to charging is fairly quick or at least fairly routine.
If he's denying any contact at all then DNA testing would be needed, of course you'd get it anyways just in case. And that takes a minute. Plus if there are other witnesses, you'd want multiple interviews with the alleged victim to be sure because unlike the military, civilian prosecutors rarely take a case if they don't think there's a very high chance of winning (the military isn't concerned with prosecutors getting reelected so they tend to take harder cases to trial).
My guess as well. He probably denied any kind of sexual interaction with the victim. DNA doesn't lie and if he did initially lie to detectives. This will hurt any kind of consensual case.
Ok folks - the Illinois sleuths are on it.
There is another tweet that the bar in question was temporarily closed. Someone pointed out that was over Christmas break and it is staffed by college students so of course there was no one to work.
There is another tweet that the bar in question was temporarily closed. Someone pointed out that was over Christmas break and it is staffed by college students so of course there was no one to work.
Reading through the replies, the note seems fishy and is tough to believe at this point. As you pointed out, the bar is “temporarily closed” due to no students there during break…but it allegedly occurred during September. If the note is true about cameras showing they were only talking and never seen leaving, Shannon will need to prove with timestamps where he was all night.
Genuinely asking here, If he was arrested, would one assume they have more evidence than just he said/she said? If it’s only he said/she said, then I would think he’d still be playing…will need to see how this pans out before coming to any sort of conclusion.
I don’t know what source was used to verify a date back in September that they were temporarily closed. Granted that would contradict the statement there is video of them just talking.
On bringing charges - I would assume they have more than just circumstantial evidence that something happened. Way too risky to bring charges on that but then again, we live in a weird time.
I would think cellphone location data could prove or disprove this case rather quickly. If she said he was at her place, location data says one way or the other.
Lastly, I think the reason he isn’t playing is because the AD found out when everyone else on the internet did. If he and the coaching staff brought it to his attention in September, he might have the AD willing to fight for him. Since they kept it under wraps, that forced the AD to side with the suspension.
I have no idea if he's guilty or not, but that Twitter post is just silly. It implies that the investigators were so boneheaded as to not notice that the bar where events happened wasn't open at the time.
There are false accusations all the time, but as you mentioned above, these don't usually rise to the level of an arrest, indicating that there is more to this than just an unfounded accusation.
It's always discouraging to me that many fans are so anxious to find a way to explain something away, no matter how heinous, so that their team can win games...
I know I am an outsider here; sorry for the comment...
Well the place I think was open in September but if you look now or last week, it said temporarily closed due to students being gone (and I guess a majority of staff was students).
But yeah, I would think an arrest and suspension would occur with more than just some he said/she said.
Appreciate the comments. Their fans are embarrassing themselves by trying to explain this away and make up crazy rumors to dispel it.
The craziest part is someone says Bill Self is behind this because he knows they can’t beat Illinois
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