Sweet 16 or fire Painter
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I'm there with you, but he isn't getting fired. Burke loves him and look at most posters on here... they are satisfied with his mediocrity. Plus his buy-out won't happen at Purdue. He should be fired when he has 1 year left or just no re-signed, but it depends if we have upgraded our AD at that point or not. Hopefully we get someone in here who can cleanup bball and football. But I doubt it since Athletics are not a priority at Purdue University.
Darrell Hazell makes Matt Painter look like John Wooden. Matt Painter is not going anywhere. Should he? At a top flight athletic program he wouldn't survive. At Purdue, .500, enjoy the middle, he is a great fit and will leave when he retires. So figure 20 more years.
True. I want to hear these stupid excuses people say now. Can't say he didn't have an experienced team on a down year in big ten, and highly rated recruits. If the best this team does is some joke worthless 9 loss season with a 1st or 2nd round elimination then it says a lot about the coach.
I feel completely fooled and misled. 3 losses now, optimistically 8 losses.counting the BTT. There is the kicker, these 2 Ls should be Ws. Going in I figured 4-5 overall losses. Not quite a champion but a definite top 3. Optimistic for the NCAA to win 2. Now I know we will win one we are not supposed to, but will also lose one more we are supposed to win (thinking home vs. Northwestern).
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I don't think I blame Painter as I resigned myself to the fact it is a cultural thing.
Last year at this time Duke lost to NC State 87-75 and then at home 90-74 to Miami. I guess Coach K temporarily forgot how to coach or teach defense. Truth is stuff happens and sometimes the other team has a night when it's just their night. Take a look who all lost this week, Iowa St, Oklahoma, Louisville, Providence, Arizona twice, Virginia twice, Dayton, UK, Butler and PU in the top 25. And maybe I even missed someone. It happens.
Yikes!! I can't take 20 more years of this pathetic brand of basketball!
I hope the new AD has the ___ to clean house in both football and bball.
In the mean time, we will be content to be bored out of our minds watching the wreckage. There will be a new AD in two years, right?
Why didn't any of you geniuses have the guts to post this lynch mob stuff after Purdue throttled Pitt at their place?
Duke went 35-4 last year and won it all. How about if Purdue goes on a run like that, all will be forgiven, lol. Yes, sometimes other teams just have a good night, but coach K and Duke are proven that you can't count them out, ever. Nobody thinks CMP has what it takes to turn this team around and go on a special run.
Are you comparing Matt Painter to Coach K? Or just the teams? Both are an apples to automobiles comparisons. Coach K had a roster of NBA talent and street cred of 11, ELEVEN Final Fours at this point last year. We have been to two Final Fours in the history of our school.
Nice! Take the ostrich approach and stick your head in the sand! We are ok, CMP is great, go Purdue rah rah rah!
I have been a critic of Purdue but your post...WOW! They aren't that bad. Reading this thread. Alot of you have seriously overrated the talent on this team. Hammons talent wise is the best player. But he is a flake. You can't count on him. The perimeter shooting is erratic. Good one half bad the next. This team has talent but the best talent is young. Davis has not looked right since the knee injury. Hammons looks disengaged against Iowa. Truth be told I don't think Hammons is that popular in the lockerroom. The point guard play is erratic... Hence the turnovers. PJ has played well in some games but he is not good enough to play at a consistent high level.
This team 2 years ago was awful. I am actually interested in how this team plays next year. Purdue was ranked 21st at beginning of year and IU was 15th. A good point guard is obviously Purdue's weakness and it's why they are soo inconsistent. You are what you are... When thy blew that lead at home against Iowa on Rick Mount night. If you couldn't see this team was inconsistent I don't know what to tell you....
Historically in both basketball and football, Purdue is not great in big games. When we have a chance to make a statement we don't.
We need some offense. Guys are way too hesitant to shoot the ball. I know we want good shots and to probe the defense, buy we pass up a lot of open shots. Turnovers are killers that lead to easy points.
I don't know what to think of Painter. He is probably a good player development guy and coaches defense well, but our offense has sucked for a long time.....going back to the Keady years. We have never had a lights out shooting team with maybe the exception of when RH and EM played together.
I go to most home games. Painter to me was too passive, especially with calls against Haas. He shows little emotion on the sidelines with his player or the refs.
We need some offense. Guys are way too hesitant to shoot the ball. I know we want good shots and to probe the defense, buy we pass up a lot of open shots. Turnovers are killers that lead to easy points.
I don't know what to think of Painter. He is probably a good player development guy and coaches defense well, but our offense has sucked for a long time.....going back to the Keady years. We have never had a lights out shooting team with maybe the exception of when RH and EM played together.
I go to most home games. Painter to me was too passive, especially with calls against Haas. He shows little emotion on the sidelines with his player or the refs.
I hope you have enjoyed him, because after this year he is a goner! All the experts had this team as a serious Final Four contender a month ago but they didn't count on inept coaching. 3 7-footers!
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Wow you seriously misjudged the whole Purdue athletic program. They gave the AD a raise and Burke should have left. The reality at Purdue is yes making the NCAA tournament is good enough at Purdue and it should be good enough. This is not Duke, Kentucky or Kansas. How much money does the school put into recruiting? Did you know the John Purdue club is no bigger then NC State's booster program? I accepted the fact after the Iowa home game this team doesn't have the pieces to be a great team.
You wanna betch go betch at Keady who had several Final 4 capable teams and they flamed out. The 2000 Elite 8 loss to 8 lower seed Wisconsin with a chance to play in the Final 4 in Indy was truly inexcusable.
Oh I couldn't agree more there. That was absolutely pathetic that Wisconsin game. A total flame out back in 2000. Purdue is a university that embellishes losing as a part of its university strategy and legacy. I describe it as a tradition of blown opportunities especially in the big game from anything I have ever seen in my life Purdue and about the only thing Purdue can legitimately claim as a worthy achievement is winning the Rose Bowl against USC, but that happened back in the 1960s. If you can't be the best academically at least try to be winners. If you think Purdue is committed to academics just take a look at the downfall of the business school. If Purdue is committed to winning we need look no further than the raise for the AD after three of the worst football seasons in big ten all-time history. These are selfish administrators that just want money from the students. What do the students get out of it except debts to pay back, a suck sports program hell bent on losing, and cheep glue the broken wood type fixes and worthless half measures to control the angry mob of ripped off students.
I think you are bitterly stumbling around a "truth" of sorts. The previous president did commit grievous harm to all of our athletic programs during her reign. By cutting discretionary spending, we saw all our major teams almost dry up from weak recruiting. We are just now recovering. Look at the men's basketball program where most of the key players are sophomores or freshmen. Give it time.
The same could be said for the decline in academics that she oversaw. Some of the same issues haunt our scholastic ranking as much as our athletics. The BOD allowed this to happen, by sanctioning the president's actions. I have seen progress in some of the athletics, and hope the same progress will be seen in academics.
Darrell Hazell is exhibit A of why you don't fire Painter.
This is one of the dumbest threads I have read in a long time. We need to scrape together every cent we can to get rid of Hazell and then spend big money to get a real coach like Sumlin. Even if we wanted to fire Painter, which would be stupid, we don't have the money to fire both Hazell and Painter and clearly Hazell needs to go first.
Basically, any extra athletic funds need to go into the "fire Hazell" pot.
Basically, any extra athletic funds need to go into the "fire Hazell" pot.
Dude, anyone can do better. There's at least ten different coaches get in the final four every year...[/FirePainterStupidity]
Yeah - the Purdue Athletics car has a blown engine, a blind driver, and we're bitching about the windshield wipers making a weird scraping sound.
I would love to see the lives of these people on here claiming that they can't stand for mediocrity. I bet they are real testaments to greatness in their own lives.
That said, 17-4 and in the top 25 is in no way mediocre. If it's a letdown then that tells you that have high expectations and that's a good thing. If you aim high you're not always going to hit your target and if you don't aim high then you never achieve anything worthwhile. I'll happily take the problem we're having now rather than the problem we have with the football program because a few years ago everyone was upset with Hope and his mediocre 6 win seasons and assumed that just about anyone could do better.
In life, you tend to get what you deserve. The cant-settle-for-mediocrity people are getting what they asked for in football right now. I hope their voice isn't loud enough to drag the basketball program from its current top 25 status to a historic 3-year low also.
That said, 17-4 and in the top 25 is in no way mediocre. If it's a letdown then that tells you that have high expectations and that's a good thing. If you aim high you're not always going to hit your target and if you don't aim high then you never achieve anything worthwhile. I'll happily take the problem we're having now rather than the problem we have with the football program because a few years ago everyone was upset with Hope and his mediocre 6 win seasons and assumed that just about anyone could do better.
In life, you tend to get what you deserve. The cant-settle-for-mediocrity people are getting what they asked for in football right now. I hope their voice isn't loud enough to drag the basketball program from its current top 25 status to a historic 3-year low also.
Agree. The overall record is surely respectable. My personal disappoint comes from a lot of the wins we had that we just didn't look good. It fell in the 'a win is a win is a win' column and 'we cant shoot this bad in every game' theme. The PITT win was very gratifying (thank you Cline) but the littered trail of poor shooting and sloppy turnovers was bound to catch up with us sooner or later. It has for sure. We've gone from imposing our will to trying to react to the other teams schemes. You can't point to any one thing as the main problem and this team has talent ...but there's also enough deficiencies that talent alone can't overcome. Still a lot of ball left but if coach keeps on with same lineups/rotations, playing times, and schemes we will...........
These are the voyages of the starship enterprise ...it's mission to boldly go where no one has ever gone before into boiler mediocrity and the endless hamster in the wheel repeating the same behavior forever...
It's Purdue.....drink the kool-aid. ...I spent 30 years hoping then conformed to the norm...it's so peaceful here...no expectations and happiness. ..
