Swanigan Update

[boilerjrut3]

@EvanDaniels: California is trying to package Ivan Rabb, Caleb Swanigan & Jaylen Brown. Pitching the 3 on playing together. Rabb would be first domino.

From what I've been reading on various sites this tweet has some legs to it.
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[BoilerDeac]

Get Cuonzo back to Purdue.

 

[boilerjrut3]

All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.
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[PU pit bull]

Let the dominos fall where they may then.....

 

[paintball1979]

Mentioned a lot on Espn yesterday, also saying it would rank them #1 recruiting class. If Purdue doesn't get CS, I hope this happens.

 

[cprh9u]

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:
All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.

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Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

 

[Like_a_Boss]

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:
All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.

Posted from Rivals Mobile

Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

 

[boiler-deuce]

Originally posted by Like_a_Boss:

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:
All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.

Posted from Rivals Mobile

Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

All I know is....with Bryson transferring and the De-committing story.....if AJ leaves and we don't land Swanigan....I can't see any possibility of improvement. In fact, I see another decline. JMHO. Selfishly we need AJ, and Swanigan.
This post was edited on 4/3 10:20 AM by boiler-deuce

 

[BBG]

Originally posted by boiler-deuce:

Originally posted by Like_a_Boss:

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:

All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.



Posted from Rivals Mobile

Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

All I know is....with Bryson transferring and the De-committing story.....if AJ leaves and we don't land Swanigan....I can't see any possibility of improvement. In fact, I see another decline. JMHO. Selfishly we need AJ, and Swanigan.

This post was edited on 4/3 10:20 AM by boiler-deuce

Personally I think we surprise next year with or without AJH. Cline is no joke and might be severely under rated. We actually will have some offense (in theory) for a change regardless.
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[lbodel]

I do not mean this in a bashing way on Bryson, but have you ever looked at his stats? His shooting numbers aren't good. He had as many assists as turnovers this year. He's a good defender, but still prone to foul trouble. I'm not sure why losing him has suddenly become some horrible thing for Purdue?

Yes, losing AJ wouldn't be good. But what makes Purdue not good?

At the center position, you'd have Haas who showed he's at least manageable (considering center is often the weakest position for many teams). Then Taylor as a back-up.

You have Edwards, a freshman that was recognized quite a bit, returning with Basil (who could very well start for many teams).

You have Mathias and Stephens as long-distance threats who both showed tremendous improvement defensively. They are also both very good size.

You have the returning Big Ten Defensive player of the year and team leader in Davis.

You have PJ who played decent minutes as a freshmen, plus one of the best shooters in the country coming in with good size.

I don't really know where this team is suddenly in free fall and HAS to have AJ AND Swanigan. That's just ridiculous.

 

[boiler-deuce]

Originally posted by lbodel:
I do not mean this in a bashing way on Bryson, but have you ever looked at his stats? His shooting numbers aren't good. He had as many assists as turnovers this year. He's a good defender, but still prone to foul trouble. I'm not sure why losing him has suddenly become some horrible thing for Purdue?

Yes, losing AJ wouldn't be good. But what makes Purdue not good?

At the center position, you'd have Haas who showed he's at least manageable (considering center is often the weakest position for many teams). Then Taylor as a back-up.

You have Edwards, a freshman that was recognized quite a bit, returning with Basil (who could very well start for many teams).

You have Mathias and Stephens as long-distance threats who both showed tremendous improvement defensively. They are also both very good size.

You have the returning Big Ten Defensive player of the year and team leader in Davis.

You have PJ who played decent minutes as a freshmen, plus one of the best shooters in the country coming in with good size.

I don't really know where this team is suddenly in free fall and HAS to have AJ AND Swanigan. That's just ridiculous.

I didn't use "free fall". I'm sorry, but, IMO, without AJ or Swanigan we only have Haas who did not look like a starter, but will be. And I really liked Scott. I thought he was going to develop into something. And, it's pretty well known I'm not a Stephens fan at all. Mathias is much better, I think, on an effort level. Talent? Stephens has it....we need more effort from him. JMHO.

 

[njm8845]

So why can Martin at Cal propose this package deal but nobody else can? Why doesn't Kentucky or Duke or ... PURDUE?

 

[lbodel]

You said you can't see any way of improvement and see "another" decline (if you're referring to a previous decline, that means losing season).

The fact of the matter is that if Hammons doesn't come back, we're not going to be the same team and we're not going to try and duplicate the same team.

We'll have 3 tall guards that are perimeter threats. This year we basically played 1 at a time for a variety of reasons.

It just cracks me up to hear make judgments that aren't really based on fact. Stephens' defense improved dramatically this season - he wouldn't be playing defense if he was lazy. The opposite is true for Scott - he's all emotional/hardcore and is aggressive - things that are good on appearance, but when your point guard has a 1:1 assist/turnover ratio - it's not good. Bryson averaged a turnover every 10 minutes. Stephens averaged a turnover every 20 minutes. But Stephens is the one who isn't a good passer, is lazy with the basketball, etc.

 

[BoilerDeac]

It's going to be Cal.

 

[purdue4sure]

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:
All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.

Posted from Rivals Mobile

Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

No. MP was the lead recruiter while serving as Associate HC.

Another fail, on your part.

 

[jadeezra]

Originally posted by BoilerDeac:
It's going to be Cal.

What makes you so sure this is the very type of recruitment that can come out of left field.

 

[kevindub]

Martin recruited Moore.

 

[boiler-deuce]

Originally posted by lbodel:
You said you can't see any way of improvement and see "another" decline (if you're referring to a previous decline, that means losing season).

The fact of the matter is that if Hammons doesn't come back, we're not going to be the same team and we're not going to try and duplicate the same team.

We'll have 3 tall guards that are perimeter threats. This year we basically played 1 at a time for a variety of reasons.

It just cracks me up to hear make judgments that aren't really based on fact. Stephens' defense improved dramatically this season - he wouldn't be playing defense if he was lazy. The opposite is true for Scott - he's all emotional/hardcore and is aggressive - things that are good on appearance, but when your point guard has a 1:1 assist/turnover ratio - it's not good. Bryson averaged a turnover every 10 minutes. Stephens averaged a turnover every 20 minutes. But Stephens is the one who isn't a good passer, is lazy with the basketball, etc.

Again, stop putting words in my mouth. If you can't stay on point, then leave it alone. I said "Another decline". I didn't say anything about how steep. I didn't say "worse" or even "the same". You don't have to like my opinion, that's not a rule. Get over yourself as I think not having two 7 footers is a drop off. It's nice having one on the court at all times. How did that work when Painter took them both out? Yeah, I thought so. So, unless you're thinking Haas will suddenly become a beast and play 40 minutes with no foul trouble, that's great. It's not realistic.

 

[Cleanface]

WE LOVE YOU BIGGIE!!!

 

[lbodel]

So if we declined, probably means we aren't making the NCAA Tournament, right?

Teams evolve. How often has Purdue had 40 minutes of true centers playing? Uh, very few teams in the last 20+ years. This year, we weren't much of a 3 point shooting team and focused on interior play, as we should have. Next year, you have 3 guys who are capable of shooting 40% from 3 and I wouldn't be surprised to see 2 of them playing at the same time in many instances. That's completely different than this past year.

 

[boiler-deuce]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.....And, I don't care what type of center play we've had in 20+ years. This is today, where Painter pulled both big men....FOR ONE PLAY. Why? Because he saw what everyone else saw. Of course we focused on interior play....remember our 3 point shooting in that last game? I'd remind you, but I don't have to. And, that is why....nothing to do with what we focused on in '90's. I'm hoping AJ stays.....and Swanigan signs, making this a non-story. But that is JMHO.

This post was edited on 4/4 12:26 PM by boiler-deuce

 

[GemstateBoiler]

Cleanface

In the screaming video you posted, the guy with the dark hair on the left in the back, dark shirt, looks just like Dakota . I hope the NCAA doesn't cite us for something illegal for that

This post was edited on 4/4 12:47 PM by GemstateBoiler

 

[jadeezra]

Pretty sure that's an outkast video

 

[IndySouthsider]

How often do you see a projected mid-late 2nd round kid hurry to leave early? Not leaving for a big money potential. Not guaranteed money unless your 1st round.

 

[ghostoffatjack]

Just read that one of Zo's Asst at Cal just accepted the SIu-Edwardsville Head Coaching position, wonder if he was recruiting Caleb for Cal?

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Yes, thank you, we are all aware that 2nd rounders don't get guaranteed contracts.

But yet, it IS guaranteed that AJ can make money somewhere playing ball next year, if he so chooses.

 

[cprh9u]

Originally posted by Like_a_Boss:

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:
All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.


Posted from Rivals Mobile

Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

Welcome to GBI, where if you can't offer a logical retort, you name call. Nice job "boss".

 

[cprh9u]

Originally posted by purdue4sure:

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:
All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.


Posted from Rivals Mobile

Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

No. MP was the lead recruiter while serving as Associate HC.

Another fail, on your part.

I've heard on this site it was mainly Zo who brought them in. Maybe that was wrong. But how do you explain the recruting after that? We've had what appears to be 1 good class since and that was 2014. 2015 looks mediocre as well unless we do get Swanigan.

 

[purdue4sure]

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by purdue4sure:

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:
All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.


Posted from Rivals Mobile

Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

No. MP was the lead recruiter while serving as Associate HC.

Another fail, on your part.

I've heard on this site it was mainly Zo who brought them in. Maybe that was wrong. But how do you explain the recruting after that? We've had what appears to be 1 good class since and that was 2014. 2015 looks mediocre as well unless we do get Swanigan.

At the time they were being recruited, the players repeatedly commented how hard MP recruited them, sometimes rushing back from a Purdue game to attend their high school games. When they committed, Rivals listed MP as their primary recruiter. That was his main job when he was as AHC -- to raise the level of talent. That is no longer his primary role. He is now the head coach.

 

[Cleanface]

So when is the announcement supposed to happen???

Is there some specific place it will happen??? Some specific time???




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[cprh9u]

Originally posted by Cleanface:
So when is the announcement supposed to happen???

Is there some specific place it will happen??? Some specific time???





Posted from Rivals Mobile

I think next Saturday at some tournament. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[cprh9u]

Originally posted by purdue4sure:

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by purdue4sure:

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by boilerjrut3:
All 3 of those players are very highly rated. If Cuonzo pulls that off it would be incredible. Not surprising, he was a great recruiter while in West Lafayette.



Posted from Rivals Mobile

Yes, don't most consider him the man behind the Robbie/Martin/JJ/Moore class? We need a recruiter like that back in West Lafayette! No wonder recruiting fell off so sharply after he left.

No. MP was the lead recruiter while serving as Associate HC.

Another fail, on your part.

I've heard on this site it was mainly Zo who brought them in. Maybe that was wrong. But how do you explain the recruting after that? We've had what appears to be 1 good class since and that was 2014. 2015 looks mediocre as well unless we do get Swanigan.

At the time they were being recruited, the players repeatedly commented how hard MP recruited them, sometimes rushing back from a Purdue game to attend their high school games. When they committed, Rivals listed MP as their primary recruiter. That was his main job when he was as AHC -- to raise the level of talent. That is no longer his primary role. He is now the head coach.

He either needs to step it up (many good HC's land really good talent even when their assistants go elsewhere) or get better assistants. 1 good class in the last 7 years. Of course it was 2014 so maybe things are on the rise.

 

[Cleanface]

Originally posted by cprh9u:

Originally posted by Cleanface:
So when is the announcement supposed to happen???

Is there some specific place it will happen??? Some specific time???





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I think next Saturday at some tournament. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh OK.

I thought it was this wknd for some reason.

 

[ChemicalArmada]

If Bucky wins the championship, do you think that helps our chances of landing Biggie?

 

[BoilerFan#35]

I doubt it would help I'm sure deep down he already knows where he is going right now.

 

[lbodel]

Ask Georgetown fans. Their best player is leaving early and isn't even on a draft board.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Nothing new but just more on Swanigan rumor to Cal

Swanigan to Cal rumor

 

[DrEss]

Purdue nowhere to be found according to those guys
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[atkinsbj]

Because the only people that think we have a chance are delusional Purdue fans. Not happening.

 

[lbodel]

I wouldn't really take much stock in any of these. Most of these are posts being written to write them for readership.