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Surprised the Dems infomercial had such a low viewership

How many people watch network tv these days? I’m either sports or Netflix, that number seems reasonable. Let’s be honest, most already have their minds made up, this isn’t changing anything except for a small majority. This will help politicians aiming for 2024 on the Republican side if they want to deal with the insults Trump will hurl at them if they run.
 
One, orange man gone, people don't care anymore. Dems are desperately trying to hold on to the orange boogie man in hopes of salvaging something in November.

Two, people who might've paid attention see it for what it is, a political, partisan, dog and pony show. The two "republicans" on the committee couldn't be bigger rinos. Cheney won't even win the primary to get able to run for reelection and Kinzinger is from Illinois and already said he isn't running again. They won't even let an actual conservative ask questions because it's about pushing an agenda.
 
How many people watch network tv these days? I’m either sports or Netflix, that number seems reasonable. Let’s be honest, most already have their minds made up, this isn’t changing anything except for a small majority. This will help politicians aiming for 2024 on the Republican side if they want to deal with the insults Trump will hurl at them if they run.
This is the dumb thing about this “event.” It’s like intentionally walking an average hitter to get to the team best hitter. In 2024 they are 50/50 to beat Trump. But whoever their tainted candidate has a slim chance of beating a ticket of Desantis and Scott or Haley or Sununu (Gov NH) or a combination there off. That’s 3 heavyweights for the undercard that would slice and dice a D VP.

And yes Desantis is beating Trump. He just won the Western conservative poll in CO (again). His popularity continues to rise - keep attacking him MSNBC. Sununu is probably the biggest threat as he could run the northeast states and collect those delegates. But a lot will depend on timing of those primaries and money.
 
Considering all networks were covering how our democracy was at risk

Like all things from NYT 20 million seems like another story of theirs I do not believe. That seems over blown, probably more like ~2 million. Can't believe anyone other than a news commentators, their staffs & the most partisan cheerleaders would watch. Time is too short for me. Then again I do not watch much "news"
 
Like all things from NYT 20 million seems like another story of theirs I do not believe. That seems over blown, probably more like ~2 million. Can't believe anyone other than a news commentators, their staffs & the most partisan cheerleaders would watch. Time is too short for me. Then again I do not watch much "news"
Had to link up a "legitimate news source" for the easily triggered. Tic
 
Like all things from NYT 20 million seems like another story of theirs I do not believe. That seems over blown, probably more like ~2 million. Can't believe anyone other than a news commentators, their staffs & the most partisan cheerleaders would watch. Time is too short for me. Then again I do not watch much "news"
I guess not allowing the Faux News watchers to watch commercials during the prime time shows worked by keeping the viewers away from the hearings. If that ain't a cult I don't know what is.
 
Like all things from NYT 20 million seems like another story of theirs I do not believe. That seems over blown, probably more like ~2 million. Can't believe anyone other than a news commentators, their staffs & the most partisan cheerleaders would watch. Time is too short for me. Then again I do not watch much "news"
It would be interesting to see the numbers for how many watched the first half hour and how many watched the last half hour. I suspect that some people may have tuned in initially, out of curiosity, but it shouldn't have taken a rational thinking human too long to realize this production was all Dem propaganda. Even Nancy said, "This hearing will show OUR narrative of what happened on Jan 6th."

We won't hear anything about how many undercover FBI agents were involved or what their roles were or why Pelosi didn't deploy the 20K National Guard troops that were available to her, when intel had indicated there was a chance for violence. Answering those questions may be counter to their narrative.

The indoctrinated sheep will feel a little more self righteous and the rest of us will see this event for what it is: Another attempt by the Dems to attack the Big Orange Guy, who haunts their dreams and another feeble attempt to label ALL Republicans as Racist White Supremacists, since that's all they have to run on in November.
 
I guess not allowing the Faux News watchers to watch commercials during the prime time shows worked by keeping the viewers away from the hearings. If that ain't a cult I don't know what is.
They showed the whole thing on FOX Business. Did you really expect every channel on TV to broadcast Pelosi's Propaganda? What about the people watching HGTV, Animal Planet, Discovery, AMC, TNT, etc.? Should they have all been forced to watch the Dem Propaganda too? I believe Putin & XI would have required that, but that's not how the US operates, although the Dems keep nudging us in that direction.

You're right. Apparently you have no idea what a Cult is. I believe Cults have to announce their pronouns.
 
It would be interesting to see the numbers for how many watched the first half hour and how many watched the last half hour. I suspect that some people may have tuned in initially, out of curiosity, but it shouldn't have taken a rational thinking human too long to realize this production was all Dem propaganda. Even Nancy said, "This hearing will show OUR narrative of what happened on Jan 6th."

We won't hear anything about how many undercover FBI agents were involved or what their roles were or why Pelosi didn't deploy the 20K National Guard troops that were available to her, when intel had indicated there was a chance for violence. Answering those questions may be counter to their narrative.

The indoctrinated sheep will feel a little more self righteous and the rest of us will see this event for what it is: Another attempt by the Dems to attack the Big Orange Guy, who haunts their dreams and another feeble attempt to label ALL Republicans as Racist White Supremacists, since that's all they have to run on in November.
FBI informants are not undercover FBI agents.
 
They showed the whole thing on FOX Business. Did you really expect every channel on TV to broadcast Pelosi's Propaganda? What about the people watching HGTV, Animal Planet, Discovery, AMC, TNT, etc.? Should they have all been forced to watch the Dem Propaganda too? I believe Putin & XI would have required that, but that's not how the US operates, although the Dems keep nudging us in that direction...
Nobody is forcing people to watch anything. If you don't want to watch it, then turn to one of the hundreds or so channels. However, Faux News did the opposite. They did not want to air it on the main channel. On the main channel, Faux News did not want their viewers to turn away to watch when a commercial came up so they did not have any commercials. Therefore, who is controlling who? Talk about right wing propaganda at its best. You have to agree with that. Why no commercials?
 
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Nobody is forcing people to watch anything. If you don't want to watch it, then turn to one of the hundreds or so channels. However, Faux News did the opposite. They did not want to air it on the main channel. On the main channel, Faux News did not want their viewers to turn away to watch when a commercial came up so they did not have any commercials. Therefore, who is controlling who? Talk about right wing propaganda at its best. You have to agree with that. Why no commercials?
Believe it or not Faux news had a split screen running showing the propaganda presentation while Tucker, Hannity and Laura were telling us how to truly save our democracy
 
Believe it or not Faux news had a split screen running showing the propaganda presentation while Tucker, Hannity and Laura were telling us how to truly save our democracy
Yeah split screen with the sound is down as they spew their BS to the right wing cult.
 
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Yet there were undercover FBI agents involved in the alleged Gretchen Whitmer abduction plot, which was why that case got thrown out of court.

Unfortunately, our FBI has become politicized and some of the agents, have become activists.
Undercover FBI agents along with informants have done a lot of good throughout history. They have also made mistakes. I haven't followed closely but perhaps in the Whitmer case, the undercover cops cross some boundaries. As far as Jan 6, if the FBI undercover agents haven't crossed any legal boundaries, then there is nothing wrong with it.
 
I guess not allowing the Faux News watchers to watch commercials during the prime time shows worked by keeping the viewers away from the hearings. If that ain't a cult I don't know what is.

Couldn't tell you. For years I dont watch Fox news. Life is too short for "news". Other than radio news when I am on the move....that's it & I am a whole lot happier. Try it.
 
Nobody is forcing people to watch anything. If you don't want to watch it, then turn to one of the hundreds or so channels. However, Faux News did the opposite. They did not want to air it on the main channel. On the main channel, Faux News did not want their viewers to turn away to watch when a commercial came up so they did not have any commercials. Therefore, who is controlling who? Talk about right wing propaganda at its best. You have to agree with that. Why no commercials?
When you remove the other options, that's tantamount to forcing people to watch it. That's the approach that Putin & Xi use. Are you saying that you want to see that applied here, as well.

You do realize that we ALL know how to change channels. BTW, why did the Dems hire an ex ABC President to produce this hearing for Network viewing. When the focus should be on getting to the TRUTH, why are the Dems putting so much emphasis on the production? Perhaps they're more concerned about making their propaganda seem believable, than they are with the truth...

FYI, that broadcast wasn't produced for the FOX audience. Pelosi's Propaganda Production was designed to create outrage in the sheep and keep the Black voters on the Dem plantation. That whole hearing is about distracting people from the economy and the shit show that Biden & the Dems have made of our country and focusing your attention on Evil Orange Guy with multiple references to the Racist White Supremacists, who are allegedly Trump supporters.

The weak minded will never figure out that they're being manipulated. They'll just be filled with outrage about Evil Orange Guy and the new threat about the rise in White Supremacy in our country. Gotta keep the Black voters looking over their shoulders for those White Supremacists, who are coming to get them. Of course, the only way you can fight off those evil White Supremacists is to KEEP VOTING FOR DEMS, or so they would have you believe.

I've seen a lot of BLM and ANTIFA riots over the last several years. I don't recall ever seeing a White Supremacist riot anywhere, and I'm sure that if one occurred, the MSM would have nonstop coverage of it. Perhaps Larry Elder will be leading it, since the MSM has called him the Black Face of White Supremacy. Apparently, if you're Black and NOT drinking the Kool Aid, you must be a White Supremacist.
...and the sheep keep blindly believing and following their shepherds to the slaughter house.
 
Undercover FBI agents along with informants have done a lot of good throughout history. They have also made mistakes. I haven't followed closely but perhaps in the Whitmer case, the undercover cops cross some boundaries. As far as Jan 6, if the FBI undercover agents haven't crossed any legal boundaries, then there is nothing wrong with it.
I agree with you completely.

As I understand it, in the Whitmer case, the FBI agents were too eager to make the case against the alleged plotters and actually helped in the planning and encouraged them to go through with it. That falls into the realm of entrapment.

There are some rumblings that there were FBI agents in the crowd, who were encouraging people to break into the House. FBI agents are human and if one of them has a political agenda and sees an opportunity to help his team, by causing the opponents to embarrass or hurt themselves politically, it's not a big reach to see that happen. Especially with some of the rogue agents that worked for and supported Comey.
 
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Couldn't tell you. For years I dont watch Fox news. Life is too short for "news". Other than radio news when I am on the move....that's it & I am a whole lot happier. Try it.
People just need to recognize when they're hearing news and when they're getting opinion.
For news on FOX, Bret Baier and Shannon Bream are very objective. They have people on their shows, who voice opinions, but they usually have people from both sides, so you get both perspectives.
Opinion:
Carlson is a Libertarian, so he has a lot of unique takes.
Hannity and Ingraham are hard Right, but both have good guests from both sides.
 
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People just need to recognize when they're hearing news and when they're getting opinion.
For news on FOX, Bret Baier and Shannon Bream are very objective. They have people on their shows, who voice opinions, but they usually have people from both sides, so you get both perspectives.
Opinion:
Carlson is a Libertarian, so he has a lot of unique takes.
Hannity and Ingraham are hard Right, but both have good guests from both sides.

Obviously agree.
 
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Nobody is forcing people to watch anything. If you don't want to watch it, then turn to one of the hundreds or so channels. However, Faux News did the opposite. They did not want to air it on the main channel. On the main channel, Faux News did not want their viewers to turn away to watch when a commercial came up so they did not have any commercials. Therefore, who is controlling who? Talk about right wing propaganda at its best. You have to agree with that. Why no commercials?
You must have a new shovel as hard as you're digging to prop up your argument.
 
Believe it or not Faux news had a split screen running showing the propaganda presentation while Tucker, Hannity and Laura were telling us how to truly save our democracy
You freakin traitor. The people who support the only president in the history of our country to refuse to accept the results of a DEMOCRATIC presidential election our trying to SAVE our DEMOCRACY.

The president who actually considered having the National Guard, DOJ, DHS, or DOD confiscate the voting machines......thanks to meetings IN THE WH with the likes of Flynn and Powell and Rudy......who convinced trump not to do it and not to declare martial law. Who fired anybody who didn't go along with his lie that the election was stolen. A president who personally spoke to state election officials and pressured them to reassess their results.

That's the man who stands for the democracy you and the Fox stooges say is being taken away?

So what if they had a split screen? Wtf does that do? The video with no audio? Is that supposed to make their commentary seem objective?
 
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When you remove the other options, that's tantamount to forcing people to watch it. That's the approach that Putin & Xi use. Are you saying that you want to see that applied here, as well.

You do realize that we ALL know how to change channels. BTW, why did the Dems hire an ex ABC President to produce this hearing for Network viewing. When the focus should be on getting to the TRUTH, why are the Dems putting so much emphasis on the production? Perhaps they're more concerned about making their propaganda seem believable, than they are with the truth...

FYI, that broadcast wasn't produced for the FOX audience. Pelosi's Propaganda Production was designed to create outrage in the sheep and keep the Black voters on the Dem plantation. That whole hearing is about distracting people from the economy and the shit show that Biden & the Dems have made of our country and focusing your attention on Evil Orange Guy with multiple references to the Racist White Supremacists, who are allegedly Trump supporters.

The weak minded will never figure out that they're being manipulated. They'll just be filled with outrage about Evil Orange Guy and the new threat about the rise in White Supremacy in our country. Gotta keep the Black voters looking over their shoulders for those White Supremacists, who are coming to get them. Of course, the only way you can fight off those evil White Supremacists is to KEEP VOTING FOR DEMS, or so they would have you believe.

I've seen a lot of BLM and ANTIFA riots over the last several years. I don't recall ever seeing a White Supremacist riot anywhere, and I'm sure that if one occurred, the MSM would have nonstop coverage of it. Perhaps Larry Elder will be leading it, since the MSM has called him the Black Face of White Supremacy. Apparently, if you're Black and NOT drinking the Kool Aid, you must be a White Supremacist.
...and the sheep keep blindly believing and following their shepherds to the slaughter house.
You trying to reduce any objections to trump down to this orange man bad" sh!t shows you have no interest in rational discussion or in truly understanding why people object to trump. You simply will not allow yourself to consider ANYTHING than the view that trump is being persecuted and that nothing that happens to him is his fault or responsibility.

The sheep like you REFUSE to let themselves be exposed to anything that might sway you from your blind devotion to trump.

The hearings show videotaped testimony. Is the tape being altered or are the witnesses lying? Or are they being pressured or blackmailed? The witnesses are from within the administration. Explain to me how that's propoganda? How do you determine it's propoganda when you don't even watch it?
 
You freakin traitor. The people who support the only president in the history of our country to refuse to accept the results of a DEMOCRATIC presidential election our trying to SAVE our DEMOCRACY.

The president who actually considered having the National Guard, DOJ, DHS, or DOD confiscate the voting machines......thanks to meetings IN THE WH with the likes of Flynn and Powell and Rudy......who convinced trump not to do it and not to declare martial law. Who fired anybody who didn't go along with his lie that the election was stolen. A president who personally spoke to state election officials and pressured them to reassess their results.

That's the man who stands for the democracy you and the Fox stooges say is being taken away?

So what if they had a split screen? Wtf does that do? The video with no audio? Is that supposed to make their commentary seem objective?
Looks like I should have been put TIC after my post. Tic
 
Sorry, trump has already worn out the "I was joking" BS.
Like many liberals you are humorless. I was going to put Tic after my original post but have been accused by another liberal on this board that I use it too much.

Please spare me the rhetorical traitor nonsense. Most of us on this board think the attack on the Capitol was terrible and I agree with Mitch McConnell when he condemned it on the Senate floor. However what most of us “traitors “ want is true non partisan review but this kangaroo court is nothing but pure propaganda. Like I said previously, this may end up a win win. You succeed in getting Trump off the 2024 ballot and the rest of the country gets Desantis who will truly make America great
 
The hearings show videotaped testimony. Is the tape being altered or are the witnesses lying? Or are they being pressured or blackmailed? The witnesses are from within the administration. Explain to me how that's propoganda? How do you determine it's propoganda when you don't even watch it?
They are not true witnesses if there are no non-Pelosi repubs to question them. This is like a show trial in China.
 
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I agree with you completely.

As I understand it, in the Whitmer case, the FBI agents were too eager to make the case against the alleged plotters and actually helped in the planning and encouraged them to go through with it. That falls into the realm of entrapment.

There are some rumblings that there were FBI agents in the crowd, who were encouraging people to break into the House. FBI agents are human and if one of them has a political agenda and sees an opportunity to help his team, by causing the opponents to embarrass or hurt themselves politically, it's not a big reach to see that happen. Especially with some of the rogue agents that worked for and supported Comey.
Rumblings? You see, that is a perfect example on how right wing conspiracy BS gets perpetuated. It is one thing to say that the FBI agents were in the crowd. Then you say that they were encouraging people to break into the house.
 
FYI, that broadcast wasn't produced for the FOX audience. Pelosi's Propaganda Production was designed to create outrage in the sheep and keep the Black voters on the Dem plantation
It sure works with BNI he is the democrat plantation poster child
 
You freakin traitor. The people who support the only president in the history of our country to refuse to accept the results of a DEMOCRATIC presidential election our trying to SAVE our DEMOCRACY.

The president who actually considered having the National Guard, DOJ, DHS, or DOD confiscate the voting machines......thanks to meetings IN THE WH with the likes of Flynn and Powell and Rudy......who convinced trump not to do it and not to declare martial law. Who fired anybody who didn't go along with his lie that the election was stolen. A president who personally spoke to state election officials and pressured them to reassess their results.

That's the man who stands for the democracy you and the Fox stooges say is being taken away?

So what if they had a split screen? Wtf does that do? The video with no audio? Is that supposed to make their commentary seem objective?
You trying to reduce any objections to trump down to this orange man bad" sh!t shows you have no interest in rational discussion or in truly understanding why people object to trump. You simply will not allow yourself to consider ANYTHING than the view that trump is being persecuted and that nothing that happens to him is his fault or responsibility.

The sheep like you REFUSE to let themselves be exposed to anything that might sway you from your blind devotion to trump.

The hearings show videotaped testimony. Is the tape being altered or are the witnesses lying? Or are they being pressured or blackmailed? The witnesses are from within the administration. Explain to me how that's propoganda? How do you determine it's propoganda when you don't even watch it?
What is actually like in your world @BuilderBob6 ?

BTW , its propaganda not propoganda , just an FYI for the next 100 times you use it in the next week.
 
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It sure works with BNI he is the democrat plantation poster child
I think you right wingers are on the plantation. Particularly when you have a so called news agency like Faux News banning commercials during the prime time programming in order to prevent cult members to switch over to the other networks covering the Jan 6 hearings. If that ain’t egregious I don’t know what is.
 
I think you right wingers are on the plantation. Particularly when you have a so called news agency like Faux News banning commercials during the prime time programming in order to prevent cult members to switch over to the other networks covering the Jan 6 hearings. If that ain’t egregious I don’t know what is.
Dude, you are so sucked into playing the fool for the democrats. Lyndon Johnson had a picture of you on his wall when he made his famous statement about having N***** voting Dem for the next 200 yrs.

Did Fox news somehow have control over my remote control? I didn't watch any of the sh*tshow on any network that night at all. It is nothing but Dem propaganda to cover up for what a mess they have made. I could frankly care less about Jan 6 . I am much more concerned about fuel prices every time I fill up, food prices , things that effect me on a daily basis. just wait until heating season starts for most people. I have plenty of firewood to burn but most people aren't that self sufficent . Already talks of major layoffs in RV industry locally which is the canary in the economy coal mine.
 
Nobody is forcing people to watch anything. If you don't want to watch it, then turn to one of the hundreds or so channels. However, Faux News did the opposite. They did not want to air it on the main channel. On the main channel, Faux News did not want their viewers to turn away to watch when a commercial came up so they did not have any commercials. Therefore, who is controlling who? Talk about right wing propaganda at its best. You have to agree with that. Why no commercials?
I keep waiting for you to realize the mistake in your logic - but i assume this is the regurgitation on your news sources. So I am gonna help you out so you can stop.

"They did not want to air it on the main channel." But they did. You realize that FoxNews is owned by Fox Corp which has local affiliates (just like ABC, NBC, CBS). And because so many on this board kept thinking that had this huge burn i checked my local fox affiliate (WFLD). And there is was. The January 6 hearing on carried on Fox Corp free television for everyone to watch.

But give me the logic of why would Fox Corp air something on its secondary channels which are paid services when somebody could simply watch the very same thing on its free option?
 
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Like many liberals you are humorless. I was going to put Tic after my original post but have been accused by another liberal on this board that I use it too much.

Please spare me the rhetorical traitor nonsense. Most of us on this board think the attack on the Capitol was terrible and I agree with Mitch McConnell when he condemned it on the Senate floor. However what most of us “traitors “ want is true non partisan review but this kangaroo court is nothing but pure propaganda. Like I said previously, this may end up a win win. You succeed in getting Trump off the 2024 ballot and the rest of the country gets Desantis who will truly make America great
Pretty hard to tell that was tic when you're saying the same thing as the Fox opinonators, and given your political position. Whatever.

What are you gonna review? The FBI was responsible, Antifa was responsible. It's was a false flag operation a la Tucker.

For the 18th time, there was a helluva lot more to this than a riot. As a matter of fact, the riot posed less risk to overthrowing the election than most everything else that went on.

Do you believe Pence should not have certified the election? Trump really didn't want the electors sent back to the states, something that has never happened and had no law to back it up? The Eastman memo really didn't happen? Trump really wasn't pressuring Pence? He didn't try to replace the AG with his handpicked crony who would weaponize the DOJ to investigate? All the people around trump that said the election wasn't fraudulent were lying? There weren't alternate illegal electors selected in at least 7 states.....that their republican legislatures refused to accept? That were organized by trump associates? What are you gonna review? Do you want to keep arguing about why security didn't stop the riot.......because it completely ignores the conspiracy to overthrow the election?
 
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Pretty hard to tell that was tic when you're saying the same thing as the Fox opinonators, and given your political position. Whatever.

What are you gonna review? The FBI was responsible, Antifa was responsible. It's was a false flag operation a la Tucker.

For the 18th time, there was a helluva lot more to this than a riot. As a matter of fact, the riot posed less risk to overthrowing the election than most everything else that went on.

Do you believe Pence should not have certified the election? Trump really didn't want the electors sent back to the states, something that has never happened and had no law to back it up? The Eastman memo really didn't happen? Trump really wasn't pressuring Pence? He didn't try to replace the AG with his handpicked crony who would weaponize the DOJ to investigate? All the people around trump that said the election wasn't fraudulent were lying? There weren't alternate illegal electors selected in at least 7 states.....that their republican legislatures refused to accept? That were organized by trump associates? What are you gonna review? Do you want to keep arguing about why security didn't stop the riot.......because it completely ignores the conspiracy to overthrow the election?
I really was going to say Tic so I wouldn’t trigger you, but my bad I should have trusted my gut.

You’re right Trump didn’t have any concerns over the election integrity. Trump was ahead in several swing states but they mysteriously had to take a break at the same time in counting and Atlanta had a “water leak” that ended up not. Then they reopen and Biden took the lead.

I’m glad your guy won and you own every misfit mistake he has made. Trump wouldn’t have to blame Russia because Russia wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine. As far as energy and inflation you can’t seriously believe Trump would have been worse. Wouldn’t be close how much better our economy would be if Trump would have remained in office.

Regarding criminal wrongdoing, I have repeatedly said I’m for a non partisan investigation and frankly hope Trump doesn’t run in 2024. However before you start spiking the football, you’ll be interested to know William Barr said he hasn’t seen anything that Trump could be charged criminally. This is the same William Barr who resigned due in part because he disagreed with Trump’s illegitimate election claim. By the way I’m a huge Bill Barr fan
 
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You freakin traitor. The people who support the only president in the history of our country to refuse to accept the results of a DEMOCRATIC presidential election our trying to SAVE our DEMOCRACY.

The president who actually considered having the National Guard, DOJ, DHS, or DOD confiscate the voting machines......thanks to meetings IN THE WH with the likes of Flynn and Powell and Rudy......who convinced trump not to do it and not to declare martial law. Who fired anybody who didn't go along with his lie that the election was stolen. A president who personally spoke to state election officials and pressured them to reassess their results.

That's the man who stands for the democracy you and the Fox stooges say is being taken away?

So what if they had a split screen? Wtf does that do? The video with no audio? Is that supposed to make their commentary seem objective?
Calling someone a traitor, because they don't have TDS like you, is a bit much, don't you think.

You are such a hypocrite, Bob.

HRC is still claiming that the 2016 election was stolen from her, although she tried to steal it with her Russian Collusion scam. Are you outraged that HRC, Obama, Comey, Brennan, Clapper and other leading Dems colluded to undermine Trump and steal that election? Illegally obtained FISA warrants by a corrupt FBI is no big deal to you, if they hurt the Orange Guy, right?

You really need to find a cure for your TDS. It seems to be getting worse.
 
I don't know if they are going to come up with enough evidence to directly link Trump to the planning for January 6, but I do believe part of the role of the committee is to debunk all of the election fraud baloney.

For god sakes they have already laid out that Bill Barr, the White House Council, Pence, Trump's campaign lawyer, Mark Meadows, 60 courts, Trump's campaign analytics guy, state and local republican officials and Ivanka thought it was BS. Some of the testimony was on tape, some from court records, some from sworn testimony and some of it comes from text or emails. I'm sure we're going to here it from many more top officials. What else does it take?

Trump lost. It looks like only a small group of people within Trump's internal circle believed he didn't. A functioning democracy cannot continue if the loosing candidates continue to sow doubt into the results of elections. The fact that Trump continues perpetuating "the big lie" is just as much of a problem as what happened on January 6 IMO.

My hope is that the hearings help nudge some republicans to accept the results of the election and come up with a different candidate in 2024. I hope the Dems do the same and we can get this whole mess behind us and move forward as a country..
 
I don't know if they are going to come up with enough evidence to directly link Trump to the planning for January 6, but I do believe part of the role of the committee is to debunk all of the election fraud baloney.

For god sakes they have already laid out that Bill Barr, the White House Council, Pence, Trump's campaign lawyer, Mark Meadows, 60 courts, Trump's campaign analytics guy, state and local republican officials and Ivanka thought it was BS. Some of the testimony was on tape, some from court records, some from sworn testimony and some of it comes from text or emails. I'm sure we're going to here it from many more top officials. What else does it take?

Trump lost. It looks like only a small group of people within Trump's internal circle believed he didn't. A functioning democracy cannot continue if the loosing candidates continue to sow doubt into the results of elections. The fact that Trump continues perpetuating "the big lie" is just as much of a problem as what happened on January 6 IMO.

My hope is that the hearings help nudge some republicans to accept the results of the election and come up with a different candidate in 2024. I hope the Dems do the same and we can get this whole mess behind us and move forward as a country..
This would be ideal, but as you can see by some on this board, they still don’t think the election was valid. They run with the wildest conspiracy theories put out there as truth. These are supposedly college-educated, thoughtful folks on here who think that way. Multiply that out to the general population and, well………
 
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