Summer Practice Started Today
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Liam gettin up shots from his favorite spot
Liking the quick release:
Liking the quick release:
If he can pick up the system on both ends he could make a real difference. Brady Eifert almost made it to the FF as a sharpshooting, semi-athletic stretch four who did the little things and hit open shots.
For sure. Just to have another 3 pt specialist off the bench would be great. He is perfect for the corner three for Braden to kick it to off the PnR if Murphy’s man helps/sags off.
Does not look like his shoulder is bothering him much at all. Hopefully he’s 100% recovered from surgery now.
Obviously we all know the team is going to be great but until Cliff and Mayer get here hard to get a good feel for how things are going to shake out.
Yup. Just wanted to provide some boiler ball happenings cuz it’s been too long since real bball action 😂
Love a team that run bring it on , we can use some of that.Gonna need it .....ie Alabama and others
Interesting how high he is on Benter. But again as pointed out Mayer isn’t on campus yet so we don’t know how that affect Benters potential pt.
For those not wanting to open X:
1. Cluff and Mayer aren’t on campus yet. Cluff is in Australia getting visa renewed so he doesn’t have to deal with it later in season. Mayer will be with Israeli U19 team this summer.
2. Jacobsen has added a lot of weight, getting up to over 250 now, and it’s noticeable. He may also end up with opportunity to play with US U19 team, which would be valuable given how long he’s gone without playing competition basketball. His catch radius around the rim is ridiculous and he was disruptive defensively, something Purdue sorely missed last year.
3. Antione West Jr. stepped on campus looking like a grown man. He’s a big, physical guard that could provide value defensively against bigger guards if he sees time.
4. Benter is going to get minutes. He’s a 6’5” floor spacer that will see time both at the 3 and the 4, confirmed by Painter. He is prolific from deep and looks much slimmer and more athletic from last summer.
5. Part of the reason Benter will see time at the 4 is Liam Murphy likely won’t be ready for full contact until fall. With that said, Murphy looked every bit of the 42% 3 point shooter he was last year, as it was a rarity that he missed an outside shot in drills.
6. CJ and Gicarri looked really confident, comfortable, and aggressive, and both were drilling 3’s. Can’t wait to see their sophomore jumps.
7. Raleigh is still sidelined and will be for some time after having same surgery as DJ.
8. Smith, TKR, and Loyer are the clear leaders of this team and that showed up in practice as you’d expect, both vocally and in their work.
Thanks for the updates DwayneP....
Sounds like our team put in the work in the offseason. Going to be an exciting year!
Painter referring to Jack using Sasha as example of a player who redshirted and then started 3 years. Everyone there was impressed with Jack including Painter. Happy his time to shine is coming. I stand by my assessment that Jack will be the best of the 2024's although a new bigger Daniel has also arrived. Who said Jack could play the 4? And who said that can't ever happen. We deserve to be ranked #1 and not just because of the big 3.
Still don’t see how Jack gets many mins—Mayer isn’t there right now either…and if he played the 4 (apparently due to Murphy not going to be 100% by the first month), then I assume we are in a very small ball lineup. I would love to eat crow and be impressed by his defense/rebounding! I know he can shoot it like fletch if not better…but we will have to wait all summer to see 😂
I just want to know if someone in WL could run out to Wal-mart and get a can of WD-40 for that door where CMP was trying to talk to reporters......
You’ve been high on Benter since Painter offered so I trust your opinion. I think if he is getting 20 minutes a game come March - this team is dangerous. He is the reason Painter didn’t blink on Myles and Cam leaving. The fact he can score at all 3 levels and dribble….game changer. Slight dip in athleticism but smarter ball player.
Haha.....maybe trying to top some of those impromptu interviews before games......the background noise is so loud, hell, you might as well just hold some of them on the access road to I-65...... 🤔
Good insight from Fletch (looking 💪 💪 😂). The whole interview is good, but around the 4 min mark he talks about Braden, which I found interesting:
I suspect the minutes played in Nov Dec might not match the minutes played in the Spring.
I'd also remind that Painter changes things all of the time in the season. He didn't start Heide and Colvin, then he did, then he didn't. He started Harris, then didn't. Didn't start Cox, then did.
What he says and does at the start isn't locked in the entire season. Which means he adjusts to what his players bring. I don't think that changes this season particularly with so many options.
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Makes me wonder if Myles and Cam decided to leave partly because they saw what they were up against with Benter coming off his redshirt.
Totally agree about Braden getting down on himself. If I can see that from my couch it must be really pronounced to his teammates. He needs an f' it kobe/mj attitude of I will kill you on the next play. I think he has certainly made strides on that but he needs to more consistently channel that negative emotion into positive ruthless aggression on the next play.
I think he will too because last year he had to learn to the "the man" with no Edey around. When you are consistenly at the top of the scouting report and teams specifically scheme to stop you, it is physically and mentally draining over the course of the season. His body and mind will have adjusted for this season making him even more dangerous.
NFW Benter plays major minutes unless there are injuries. Not a knock on him, minutes just aren’t there. If he plays spot minutes this year, that’s a major win for him and sets him up for big things starting next season.
Also.....some guys who don't start the game end up on the floor in "crunch time" finishes.
I think it depends on how many different "types" of lineups we see. CMP gave a very quick positive answer when asked if we'd see Benter at the 4. That would likely be as small a 1-4 as we've ever had if that happens. Might we see a lineup with TKR at the 3? Probably not but I think it's something that possible and never was before. I just think we have more options this year than ever before, and that's obviously a good thing. That's what makes all of these minutes threads so full of guesswork and conjecture and assumption. But that's why we have message boards. No one can really be wrong because there are so many possibilities.
I get that it's fun to throw a bunch of wild shit out there. It's June and a long way until there's much real to talk about around Purdue basketball. The reality is, we know that barring injuries, the vast majority of the minutes at the 4/5 will go to Trey, Cluff and DJ. There will be zero minutes with those three on the floor together. Fun to think about what JB and Murphy might do, but the reality is that they're going to average maybe 10-12 minutes a game combined unless there area ton of blowouts.
The same is true in the backcourt. Braden and Fletch are going to both play 30+ mpg unless there are a ton of blowouts and there are a bunch of really good players who are competing for the other 60ish minutes. Awesome to have a lot of talented options. Fun as fans to think about how it might work. The reality is that in close games the best players are going to play most of the minutes and while we may get one or two surprises, we know who most of those players are.
Minutes are only not there if you demand that Loyer must play 30+ minutes every single game, that Smith must play close to 40 every game.
If you recognize that Loyer playing some games under 30 and Smith playing games under 35 isn't some craziness then there's plenty of minutes.
I expect Smith and TKR during all crunch times. I expect Loyer during most crunch times unless it's a defensive possession or certain other situations.
I've said it before: if there are a bunch of blowouts, all bets are off, play guys like Jack and Omer as much as you can. Aside from that, you're not going to play Jack more than players he's not as good as, i.e. Trey and Fletcher. Having said that, if Jack is all world, maybe he takes all the minutes at the four when Trey is out and all the minutes at the three when Fletch is out. I just don't see it, too hard for a RS frosh to play both positions.
Jesus no one said MORE. No one said bench Loyer. No one said don't start Loyer. All anyone has said is that with players like Benter, Mayer, Murphy, Harris, et Al you don't have a situation where you are forced to play only one way with one set of players.
There were multiple games last season that were neither blowouts nor even wins where Loyer played less than 30 minutes. Loyer spent a stretch in January where he avg over 35 minutes then immediately followed it with a similar stretch of 5-6 games where he averages under 30.
Most of those weren't blowouts. Now, with more, better players, Painter has the enviable challenge of folding those guys in. I do not think he approaches that as well I can't possibly ever play Loyer less than 30 minutes. I'm sure he, correctly, approaches it as Loyer is a key cog. But sometimes if Mayer or Cox or Harris or yes Benter is having a great game then yes, Painter will do what he did 13 times last season and give them minutes even if it means Loyer drops below what is apparently the magical number of 30 minutes. Or Smith drops below 35.
Even if you only give them 10-12 minutes combined and we agree that none of them are at the 4/5, then Fletch at 30 and Smith at 38, from last season, means you only have 40 minutes left for Harris, Cox, and Mayer combined. This team is going to be best if these players step up not just running the big three and filling in some gaps as if those three alone win us most games.
All year long Painter praised the scout team for getting the team ready for different styles. My sources said Jack would scrimmage playing the 1-5 and dominated both sides of the ball. Not sure about Cam but Myles may have been intimidated. Time will tell how he fits.
Well apparently, it's wild shit to think he does more than mop minutes. Mayer too.
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