I'd get that phone call made.
Maybe give him Co-OC title?
Maybe give him Co-OC title?
Stubblefield as WR Coach?
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I don’t like the idea of former players coming back to become coaches! I remember when Bart Starr and Forest Gregg tried to become coaches. They both failed. And their long time fans began to hate them! Eventually Stubblefield will fail and fans here will hate him.
How about Bob Greise or Mark Herman as Qb coach? Or Mike Alstott as rb coach? Or Woodson as DB coach? Or light as ol coach? Great players do not always become great coaches! And you would hate it when they fail.
How about Joe barry and big dog as our next basketball coaches? That makes as much sense!
How about hiring my son? He was a Wr in high school
How about Bob Greise or Mark Herman as Qb coach? Or Mike Alstott as rb coach? Or Woodson as DB coach? Or light as ol coach? Great players do not always become great coaches! And you would hate it when they fail.
How about Joe barry and big dog as our next basketball coaches? That makes as much sense!
How about hiring my son? He was a Wr in high school
I also believe Louisville will regret hiring Brohm. What happens when he doesn’t live up to the hype and expectations?
To add to your point Brandon Brantley is doing quite well, as is Katie Gearlds. Jeff and Brian Brohm are both doing well, and Jim Harbaugh is having a pretty solid coaching career so far. Sure there are many more examples.
I guess you don't like the idea of Matt Painter or Brantley coming to coach BB? Brock Spack had some very good defenses here as DC as well. Those are examples of former players having success coaching at their Alma Mater.
Griese, Hermann, and Alstott aren't CFB coaches so hiring them won't make sense maiming your analogy is illogical. Stubblefield has coached some very good WRs in P5 and B1G.
If you're afraid of failure, then you're afraid of success. Don't be afraid of success.
Obviously you didn’t understand my point. Yes, players do well as coaches. But they often fail when they try to go back home and coach the same team they played for! And when they fail they place the administration and fans with a dilemma! Do you keep them? Or fire them? Coach Wooden was an all American but he didn’t coach at Purdue! The same with Bobby Knight and Coach K. They didn’t return to coach their alma mater. And neither did Zo or Katie!
Painter was a nice player at Purdue but I never thought of him as a star. I definitely would not want Hummel as a Purdue coach.
It’s very hard for the individual, the administration and the fans to appreciate a star player returning home to coach! Would you want Rick Mount or Brees to coach? Obviously some of you would. What would you do if they fail? Would you post the cliche well the cupboard was bare and he needs 4 more years or there were key injuries or it wasn’t the coach that threw that interception? Do you start making others the scapegoat? And what is the ad supposed to do? Fire a legacy? That’s why I say louisville will regret bringing Brohm back home. If he doesn’t succeed, then what? The AD resigns?
It's the exact same dillema for any coach fired. Either they do well or they don't. If they don't do well they get fired. It's simple. It doesn't matter if they are alumni or not.
I really didn’t see Brock Spack or painter as being tremendous star players at Purdue! I saw them as complementary players!
There are many examples of role players who become successful coaches! I’m talking about the star players!
Will Prime Time be successful at Colorado? Maybe. But you didn’t see him trying to get a job at his alma mater!
Didn’t Spurrier go back to his alma mater? Only to leave?
Sure there are many examples you could list where a player stays on as a coach at their alma mater and has success as a coach. Really wasn’t that impressed with spack as a coach and neither was Tiller or Morgan as they gave the job to Hope! Obviously there are people here who love him and believe he can do no wrong! That’s why he’s coaching at the powerhouse Ill st and does well against SIU.
Look at Steve Alford. He’s a legend at IU. He had several opportunities to coach there, but he wisely chose to coach elsewhere.
My point was about the legendary players, Not the complementary ones! Did you consider Painter a legendary player at Purdue? Was he even on that same mt Rushmore with Cardinal and Sichting?
There are many examples of role players who become successful coaches! I’m talking about the star players!
Will Prime Time be successful at Colorado? Maybe. But you didn’t see him trying to get a job at his alma mater!
Didn’t Spurrier go back to his alma mater? Only to leave?
Sure there are many examples you could list where a player stays on as a coach at their alma mater and has success as a coach. Really wasn’t that impressed with spack as a coach and neither was Tiller or Morgan as they gave the job to Hope! Obviously there are people here who love him and believe he can do no wrong! That’s why he’s coaching at the powerhouse Ill st and does well against SIU.
Look at Steve Alford. He’s a legend at IU. He had several opportunities to coach there, but he wisely chose to coach elsewhere.
My point was about the legendary players, Not the complementary ones! Did you consider Painter a legendary player at Purdue? Was he even on that same mt Rushmore with Cardinal and Sichting?
Who cares if they are legendary player or not? It doesn't matter.
This thread was about Taylor Stubblefield who by all accounts is a very good WR Coach and recruiter.
Brohm will be successful just not as successful as the fans want or expect. 8 or 9 wins during the best years and that won't be good enough for the Louisville fans.
ACC is largely Clemson and then a rotation at #2 (FSU right now) so they have a legit chance of regularly being in contention, especially since Satterfield recruited well. He’ll have a much easier time than he would have here post-Divisions.
Then, Brian can replace him in the future with Brady taking over down the line… 😉
...it's third and one....and Bart drops back and hits Carroll Dale for a 30 yard TD or was that Boyd Dowler...too much mud on the numbers...
Dale, he was out boozing till 5 am the day of the Super Bowl Legend...it's third and one....and Bart drops back and hits Carroll Dale for a 30 yard TD or was that Boyd Dowler...too much mud on the numbers...
The point I was making is Stubblefield is known as one of Purdue’s greatest WR’s. When it comes to Purdue WR’s, he’s kind of a legend.
And that’s my entire point. It’s never a good thing for a legend player to return home to coach their alma mater. It very rarely succeeds.
There 2 million examples of players who coach at their alma mater and become successful. There are thousands of examples of players who were legends that became successful.
But how many players who were legends went back to their alma maters and became successful? Less than 10? Name 1 Purdue legendary player that came back to Purdue and became a successful coach. And by legendary, I’m talking about an all American!
Let people like Stubblefield enjoy their success much like Alford enjoyed his! Yes he was a great player. Don’t try to strike lightning twice.
Your point is made but is only your opinion. It is not fact. There is no law of the universe that automatically makes alumni fail when coaching at their Alma mater.
I don't want to hire Stubblefield just because he is a legendary WR. I want to hire him because he is also a good WR coach and recruiter who is familiar with the Purdue culture.
You are correct, it’s only my opinion. However I provided many examples.
Why hasn’t Stubblefield returned earlier? Why didn’t Zo return to coach at Purdue? Why didn’t Alford return to IU? Why didn’t Prime Time return to his alma mater?
It’s my opinion that Stubblefield probably likes where he currently is.
You provided poor examples. For example, Zo did coach at Purdue for 8 years and was very successful. Leading to his own HC career.
And then when fired, people wanted him back. Go to IU board. Look and you will find many posts by IU fans crying and begging for them to hire Alford!
Maybe Zo was a bad example but I thought it was one you could relate to. Fans keep screaming for Purdue to bring back legends as coaches. Every time there is an opening, some fan wants to bring back some legend as a coach. but the reality is the vast majority of our most successful coaches were outsiders. And the vast majority of our former players have enjoyed success elsewhere.
Somewhere there is a reason for that.
Why did IU’s Woodson return to IU? Why did Howard return to Michigan! I think Howard’s choice was a bad one. But that’s my opinion.
Zo would have been great to bring back as an assistant under Painter. But he was too good and got another HC job. Again, bad example.
You say Purdue fans always want to bring players back as coaches but you cite IU and Michigan coaches. Bad examples.
I agree with your general point that some people just like to throw out names of great former players with no coaching experience ("let's bring in Brees as HC or OC" type of thing) and that would probably be a disaster and do harm to their legacy.
In the specific case of Stubblefield I think you are stretching the definition of "legendary" to make your point. Also he has actual relevant experience. He may or may not want to come back here but it's not in the same universe of just hiring Glenn Robinson as the next basketball coach with no experience.
