I thought there would be a correction here during the course of the week with some money being thrown our way. Either way, I love the Boilers getting this many. We were awful last Saturday, we won’t be this weekend. Take the points, head to the bank. More importantly, let’s win over there.
Still at +7.5??
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What did you anticipate as "the correction"?
After last week's display, what was it that had you believing money would be thrown Purdue's way? More so, given the performance of teams coming off/out of a bye (including Purdue's the week prior).
Purdue was indeed awful last Saturday...the only Saturday that they were not awful in the last month was the Iowa game (which seems like an outlier at the moment)...and the bye week.
I am all for the notion of wanting Purdue to get a win in Lincoln, but, it is anything but a sure thing...+7.5 or not...especially in having scored a single offensive touchdown in 4 of the last 5 games they have played.
Where were you the weekend of the Iowa game?
answer to your first question is that Nebraska’s defense isn’t even Minnesota good let alone Wisconsin
Nebraska fans say that their pass rush isn’t very good. I think they are decent against the run. It’s a pretty big defense.
We’ve played some pretty good defenses as of late. I think the Offense bounces back some against Nebraska. Expect a close game.
I agree. People forget that the defense and special teams were horrible against Nebraska .. the only place their team is better than us is the linebackers
People also forget Karlaftis didn't play last year and their offensive line lost two players.
Honestly, and this isn’t Boiler Kool Aid talking, I thought that the line would move closer to 5. Nebraska hasn’t beaten anyone and they lost to UofI. At least our ceiling of play is a win at Iowa. I sincerely think we have a better chance of winning outright than losing by +7. But there’s a reason the bookmakers are always in business and the bettors retire.
Exactly .. and we had the college version of jim tomsula (or as Jerry rice calls him, tom shula) coaching defense
Nebraska thumped NW, arguably should (at least certainly could) have beaten Oklahoma (overrated or not), and, were right there against/with MSU as well.
I am not sure that Purdue's true ceiling is Iowa...like say, in hindsight and at the moment, it just looks like an anomaly...4 of 5 games with a single TD seems much more relevant and reflective than an outburst against a team that Purdue has had success against for whatever reason in the past...it was awesome...it was fun...but, last week, Purdue was not able to do anything at all offensively and had no answers...and when I hear/see that the"3 QB" debacle will remain in place "because it has to (whatever that means)" I am not admittedly inspired.
You’re right. 100%. The 3 QB thing is embarrassing. It really makes no football sense. And more so when all 3 are on the field at the same time like Q3 vs Wisky. But, I’m hoping that Coach Brohm is over that skit.
You can spin Nebraska anyway you want but you can do that with us too. Coulda beat ND if not for bad red zone, illegal hits, bad INTs. Shoulda beat Minny, etc. The fact remains we are better at our best than they are. We’ll cover Saturday. And winning is more probable than losing.
There were people on the Board that thought we should have been favored last week and we lost by 17 to a team we haven't beaten in 15 years.
Nebraska has 5 losses but they lost to the current 4, 6, and 8th ranked teams by a total of 13 points.
I actually think the teams are pretty even and I believe we can win but 7.5 point dog doesn't seem that unreasonable since the game is at Nebraska, Purdue's had a poor performance last week and Nebraska is coming off a buy week.
Nebraska has 5 losses but they lost to the current 4, 6, and 8th ranked teams by a total of 13 points.
I actually think the teams are pretty even and I believe we can win but 7.5 point dog doesn't seem that unreasonable since the game is at Nebraska, Purdue's had a poor performance last week and Nebraska is coming off a buy week.
This isn't true. Nebraska has a better defense than Minnesota. You can look at any of the power rankings, vegas metrics, and computer efficiencies, they all have Nebraska's defense ahead of Minnesota.
Only thing Minnesota does better than Nebraska is rush the passer off the edge.
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Nebraska won't be able to control the line of scrimmage like Wisconsin did on both offense and defense. Nebraska's defense is solid, but struggles at generating pressure and causing turnovers. If they can't get pressure on AOC, then Purdue's offense will look more like the Iowa game compared to Wisconsin.
I think Purdue's defense matches up well against Nebraska's offense. Nebraska's offensive line is nowhere near Wisconsin's run blocking ability, and struggles even more than Wisconsin in pass blocking.
RB Rahmir Johnson catching passes out of the backfield, TE Austin Allen, a second TE set with Vokolek, or Martinez making plays with his feet could create problems for Purdue's defense. So, Graham and Grant will need to have a big game. Nebraska will probably want to game plan like Minnesota, where they go for big plays on double moves or other methods to create separation on an aggressive defense.
If Purdue's defensive line can control the LOS, then that will force Nebraska into a lot of 3rd and long situations. You have to like Purdue's chances on getting pressure on those types of situations to force Martinez to make mistakes.
I think Purdue's defense matches up well against Nebraska's offense. Nebraska's offensive line is nowhere near Wisconsin's run blocking ability, and struggles even more than Wisconsin in pass blocking.
RB Rahmir Johnson catching passes out of the backfield, TE Austin Allen, a second TE set with Vokolek, or Martinez making plays with his feet could create problems for Purdue's defense. So, Graham and Grant will need to have a big game. Nebraska will probably want to game plan like Minnesota, where they go for big plays on double moves or other methods to create separation on an aggressive defense.
If Purdue's defensive line can control the LOS, then that will force Nebraska into a lot of 3rd and long situations. You have to like Purdue's chances on getting pressure on those types of situations to force Martinez to make mistakes.
The most important thing 😁 at least against Purdue by far.
don’t worry man, unlike buddahaw the typical Nebraska fan, if you beat us.. I may have my criticisms of how we played, but I will credit Nebraska for playing well.
NCAA rankings at first glance
total defense
Minnesota 17th
Nebraska 44th
run defense
Minnesota 5th
Nebraska 51st
yards per run
Minnesota 13th
Nebraska 45th
passing yards allowed
Nebraska 43rd
Minnesota 65th
Yards per pass
Nebraska 26th
Minnesota 52nd
scoring defense
Nebraska 25th
Minnesota 26th
your feelings
Nebraska awesome
Minnesota 💩
Purdue's OL has been dominated pretty much every week...aside of the Iowa game (which does not make sense), it has been dominated by everyone else besides UConn (which is essentially a HS team). Thus, while Nebraska may not be Wisconsin, it is every bit as good as some of the other teams that have dominated Purdue up front.
It is tough to get a true read on Purdue's defense still...it was not very good against Minnesota...it was not good a week ago against Wisonsin....it struggled against Illinois...and, outside of Iowa (which again does not make much sense), UConn (already established as irrelevant) and ND (an awful OL), it has not dominated anyone up front.
If Purdue does not find a way to generate more than one TD offensively, it will have a tough time against anyone...and, that is what Purdue has done 4 of the last 5 games.
Teams that can physically dominate their opponents at the line of scrimmage are never more than a touchdown underdog to one of those alleged opponents.
Purdue's "Offensive" coordinator has to put plays in that allows the QB...whomever it is...to get rid of the ball quickly. If there were any sort of running game, that would help too as the Offensive line is honestly "offensive" and can't seem to stop anyone.
He said Purdue will “physically dominate” or you have a brain out of big 12 land and he never said that?
he said you won’t do what Wisconsin did. Then he did go on to talk about Purdue controlling the LOS. To us, offensively, that means time for Oconnell to throw and maybe even some rushing yards for backs.
defensively, you’re up against the premier defensive end in college football. Notre dame double and triple teamed him. He would hit coan on a speed move on one play, then push the OT right into coan’s lap on the next play. I’d be shocked if Purdue didn’t have a significant edge there.
Nebraska can:
> keep a TE in to block karlaftis - now your passing game is easier to cover.
> double team him - now linemen who otherwise won’t win their matchups are singled up and get to Martinez.
> single block karlaftis - bad stuff happens immediately…
and if your idea is “oh well misdirection and we will run Martinez…” do you remember Michigan Martinez’ freshman year? SS Marvin Grant reminds me of Michigan linebacker Devin bush.. not quite as explosive, harder hitter. Not sure how many shots Martinez wants to take from him or how easy it will be to get away.
a lot of times spreads are based in recent bias
You're comparing the Boilers D to Michigan in 2018 now?
Ok. I'm done now. You've run me off.
No.. you’re a moron so you don’t really understand what I am doing. I said one player reminds me of the kind of player that one player on Michigan was. I also said we have the best DE in football.
How you read that as “this defense is like that Michigan defense” is a deep insight into things like the reading comprehension of fans of traditional powers, jingoism etc.
If you suddenly get into what I actually wrote and read our board, you will see that I think you guys are not Wisconsin, we can keep it close if we play well, and I think we can win by 3.. again, if we play well.
And as far as running you off, oh no. Here’s a parting gift in case you meant it:
By the way stooge, let’s get back to what he said.. did he say we’d physically dominate the line of scrimmage?
By the way for anyone who is always like “oh come on, their fans are so nice” THAT is their fans
D@mn, I didn't realize the rodents were that stout against the run. The boat rower is getting it done in the trenches.
Boat Rower gets way more than his fair share of hate and disdain, but, bottom line...he has done a far better job on the field, and off, in his time there...never mind dominating Purdue during said time.
He at least grasps the importance of winning in the trenches...and, that having 50 WRs is useless in that they can't all play, and, more useless if/when you can't get the ball in their hands when they do.
Deeper insight here.. Doerue got 95 yards against them but it came at the expense of everything else .. it Nebraska decides to take everything else away expect a similar day from doerue and also for Oconnell to have time abs make plays
Holy sh*t... Boat Rower was handed a pretty d@mn decent roster. He should have "done a far better job on the field, and off, in his time there..."
Yeah, Claeys was known for his repeated success there...and Minnesota was a national power...I forgot.
The guy has won...which is all that matters...with what he inherited, and, subsequently, with what he has brought in.
Brohm was handed better QBs by maybe the most incompetent HC of all-time than he has managed to recruit in 5 years. Never mind, in 5 years, one would think (hope?) that the alleged gap that you allude to when they both arrived might have been narrowed at least.
Say we win tomorrow … will you show up and celebrate us winning even if it still doesn’t mean brohm is good?
I believe we're 12th in total defense. This has to be the biggest move by any team in the nation. We were just horrible last year.
Shhh don’t tell the Nebraska fan.. he thinks he’s facing some bad Danny hope defense and instead of George our best player is some dude named Rick lol
It was not as if Purdue won that battle going away...they struggled to run...they really struggled in short yardage situations...and, Plummer was under pressure a great deal throughout the game.
To your point, I don't know if I would say that they were dominated...but, it was not a game where they shined by any means either...in fact, coming out of it, it was identified by more than myself as a pretty significant concern...and, it was dominated for the first quarter of the UConn game the following week.
...eh? The substance of the roster doesn't matter?
Claeys was there one full season, went 9-4, winning a bowl game. That was their FIFTH STRAIGHT bowl game. Then the Boat Rower took over. Since that time, the Boat Rower has taken them to TWO bowl games in four seasons.
You think the argument is that a team must be a "national power" for a new coach to have success?? Wow.
That Minny roster had some nice depth, and the Boat Rower leveraged it for some wins. It looks like he has taken the program's success DOWN a notch.
I don't think using Boat Rower to go after Brohm does what you think it does, but I get it... this is another cudgel to use against Brohm.
You’re really reaching here. I attended the UCONN in person. FFS, we won 49-0 and outside of our first series UCONN didn’t dominate Purdue in any way except for giving up scores. We obliterated them and Brohm rested the starters for most of the second half.
We beat Oregon State pretty soundly and could have easily tallied 10-14 more points than we did.
You have your jaded views of this team and it doesn’t matter what I sayyou’re not going to change them…..
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