State of 'traditional' BT conf teams.....

[typeviic]

It occurred to me that the in-state program down south has found a winning formula by bringing in a new HC, who also brought a dozen players from football 'powerhouse' James Madison. That is bad news for the strength of the conference, IMO. It should not happen. This is not sour grapes. Its an indication of a historically weak (traditional teams) Big Ten. Can you just imagine Mississippi State replicating that in the SEC, bringing in a new HC, being 8-0, and using a dozen new players from, say Appalachian State? As someone said on this board, IU "needs to take advantage of this once in a lifetime schedule opportunity".

 

[Dreambig74]

I was thinking the same thing. Could be coaching but those guys from JMU are better.

 

[Chi-Boiler]

It occurred to me that the in-state program down south has found a winning formula by bringing in a new HC, who also brought a dozen players from football 'powerhouse' James Madison. That is bad news for the strength of the conference, IMO. It should not happen. This is not sour grapes. Its an indication of a historically weak (traditional teams) Big Ten. Can you just imagine Mississippi State replicating that in the SEC, bringing in a new HC, being 8-0, and using a dozen new players from, say Appalachian State? As someone said on this board, IU "needs to take advantage of this once in a lifetime schedule opportunity".

If it was Rutgers, you wouldn't be saying this.

 

[SKYDOG]

It occurred to me that the in-state program down south has found a winning formula by bringing in a new HC, who also brought a dozen players from football 'powerhouse' James Madison. That is bad news for the strength of the conference, IMO. It should not happen. This is not sour grapes. Its an indication of a historically weak (traditional teams) Big Ten. Can you just imagine Mississippi State replicating that in the SEC, bringing in a new HC, being 8-0, and using a dozen new players from, say Appalachian State? As someone said on this board, IU "needs to take advantage of this once in a lifetime schedule opportunity".

Most are all older players who understand the assignment they have and execute to the best of their abilities.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

I don't know if you remember this or not... But JMU was really good last year. Way better than Indiana or Purdue were last year. Sarratt, Lawton, Fisher and Kamara are indeed beast. They are B1G caliber players who just happened to play at JMU instead because they were overlooked. They are showing out with their opportunity at IU.

 

[pboiler18]

I don't know if you remember this or not... But JMU was really good last year. Way better than Indiana or Purdue were last year. Sarratt, Lawton, Fisher and Kamara are indeed beast. They are B1G caliber players who just happened to play at JMU instead because they were overlooked. They are showing out with their opportunity at IU.

I don’t. And I don’t really care.

IU will get exposed when the schedule turns less favorable. Whether that’s vs OSU or in a playoff game…it’s coming.

 

[typeviic]

I don't know if you remember this or not... But JMU was really good last year. Way better than Indiana or Purdue were last year. Sarratt, Lawton, Fisher and Kamara are indeed beast. They are B1G caliber players who just happened to play at JMU instead because they were overlooked. They are showing out with their opportunity at IU.

Ah, good to know. Explains a lot.

 

[rgarlitz]

I don't know. Instant turnarounds like that are such rare outliers, I wonder how much they really tell us about the rest of the league. I mean, Indiana pasted Nebraska last week but hen Nebraska looked very respectable at OSU yesterday. I don't think many people are going to accuse OSU of being soft.

This might make Purdue fans uncomfortable, but I see parallels to what Joe Tiller did at Purdue in '97.

Granted, transfers weren't anywhere near as big as they are today. For Tiller, it was probably the system as much as the players.

But sometimes you just bring the right guy into the situation, and it works out.
Maybe you catch some early breaks that build excitement and momentum like Purdue beating ND in week 2 in '97 or Indiana's early favorable schedule this year (none of their first 5 B1G opponents are in the top half of the league). And things just take off

 

[typeviic]

I don't know. Instant turnarounds like that are such rare outliers, I wonder how much they really tell us about the rest of the league. I mean, Indiana pasted Nebraska last week but hen Nebraska looked very respectable at OSU yesterday. I don't think many people are going to accuse OSU of being soft.

This might make Purdue fans uncomfortable, but I see parallels to what Joe Tiller did at Purdue in '97.

Granted, transfers weren't anywhere near as big as they are today. For Tiller, it was probably the system as much as the players.

But sometimes you just bring the right guy into the situation, and it works out.
Maybe you catch some early breaks that build excitement and momentum like Purdue beating ND in week 2 in '97 or Indiana's early favorable schedule this year (none of their first 5 B1G opponents are in the top half of the league). And things just take off

O$U and UM are very pedestrian this year, compared to how they have been before

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

I don’t. And I don’t really care.

IU will get exposed when the schedule turns less favorable. Whether that’s vs OSU or in a playoff game…it’s coming.

Well if you don't know, and don't care to know... Then you're just willfully ignorant.

 

[rgarlitz]

I don't know if you remember this or not... But JMU was really good last year. Way better than Indiana or Purdue were last year. Sarratt, Lawton, Fisher and Kamara are indeed beast. They are B1G caliber players who just happened to play at JMU instead because they were overlooked. They are showing out with their opportunity at IU.

Along the same lines, Kurtis Rourke is a genuinely good quarterback. I follow Ohio U. almost as much as I follow Purdue (lived in Athens for six years). His older brother, Nathan Rourke, also an Ohio U. qb, got a few NFL tryouts before finding a career in the CFL.

 

[rgarlitz]

O$U and UM are very pedestrian this year, compared to how they have been before

Michigan probably. But I don't think I'd call OSU pedestrian. Their only loss is by 1 point at the team that is now ranked #1.

 

[pboiler18]

Well if you don't know, and don't care to know... Then you're just willfully ignorant.

There’s a board for this. It’s not here.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

There’s a board for this. It’s not here.

Well it's difficult to question where the league is but not care about any of the facts, just because your feelings are hurt.

 

[johnboiler123]

The big ten is definitely down this year. Perfect storm for iu with an insanely weak schedule. I think they would get embarrassed by at least half the sec. It’s also embarrassing that we’re letting Oregon come in and win the conference their first year.

 

[Chi-Boiler]

Well it's difficult to question where the league is but not care about any of the facts, just because your feelings are hurt.

Sounds like it's your feelings that are hurt, not his. Because he doesn't care about your team.