Yeah but we went into the bowl game with 3 losses like Iowa and lost to a much better team than Iowa did. one of our losses was the first game of season and I think we played so well the rest of year we just kept moving up. We beat some really good teams and our only B1G losses were UM and OSU. Big ten was really good that year. We do that same this year and we probably finish 17th, don’t think it’s that different now.Just goes to show you how college football has changed. We finished the same 9-4 in 03 and weren’t we ranked like 17th?