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So UofL has a fiscal year net operating loss of $316 million?

Goes in line with many saying UofL fumbled the process by not only firing Petrino but outwardly placing Brohm as their #1 candidate. A friend of mine who worked inside UofL athletics as a trainer said, 'The way they handled this is totally UofL athletics. Arrogant and totally misunderstanding that Purdue could in fact retain Brohm because it is a better job right now. UofL athletics staff and fans are totally out in right field most days and I liken them to the irrational IU basketball fans that think they are better than anyone else simply because they wear candy stripped pants.'
The former trainers are always in the know - lol.
 
That’s the part that you just don’t (won’t) get. There no other evidence besides “home town pull” and if there were - you’d dismiss it with the same sort of delusion that you have all others.

That’s it all - right there.

Sorry.
Again, read my original message you attempted to dismiss (along with those I have posted at your own board). Nowhere have I dismissed the home town pull UofL has. You are also pointing out some type of delusion when I have presented very real facts...then again, I'm sure they probably didn't teach you evidence based research at UofL.

Wall Street Journal 2018 Rankings:
UofL: roughly 406th
Purdue: 43rd

But I'll assume you likely only read my original post for about 15 seconds. Probably about all the physical exertion your body could take.
 
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He would know given he was the associate head trainer...essentially the second or third in charge of the entire athletic training staff on a given night. He literally worked in the athletic department so I don't know how you can say he wouldn't know.
And if he was talking about an injury, I’d give him credit for knowing what he’s talking about. To suggest that he is in the know about intricacies of what is occurring at UofL ( athletics and budget) currently and, be able to intelligently extrapolate and compare that to Purdue’s situation - is just silly.
 
Gotta be honest - and seriously no disrespect intended - but I got bored about 1/3 of the way through your post and skipped the rest.

Brohm is just coming home. I’m sorry if it doesn’t make sense to you guys, or you think it’s a terrible decision on his part but, it’s just happening.

Deep down - you know it.

So why are you here if you are so sure it’s a done deal? Won’t the kiddies down south let you play in their sandbox? I for one hope Brohm stays but if he doesn’t the silver lining would be at least all the UofL trolls can go home and pat themselves on the back and tell each other they really aren’t the most corrupt college athletics program in the country. Really...really ?
 
So why are you here if you are so sure it’s a done deal? Won’t the kiddies down south let you play in their sandbox? I for one hope Brohm stays but if he doesn’t the silver lining would be at least all the UofL trolls can go home and pat themselves on the back and tell each other they really aren’t the most corrupt college athletics program in the country. Really...really ?
Most corrupt? Oh honey - clearly you don’t know the first thing about the SEC.

BTW - I’m just here because there are less Purdue fans on this site than the Louisville board.
 
And if he was talking about an injury, I’d give him credit for knowing what he’s talking about. To suggest that he is in the know about intricacies of what is occurring at UofL ( athletics and budget) currently and, be able to intelligently extrapolate and compare that to Purdue’s situation - is just silly.
Again, read my post slowly and carefully. I never said he knew about their handling of the budget...just that UofL is arrogant and believes themselves to be better than anyone simply because it is UofL.
This should get you started although I'm not sure you got this advanced in your studies at UofL:
 
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Most corrupt? Oh honey - clearly you don’t know the first thing about the SEC.

BTW - I’m just here because there are less Purdue fans on this site than the Louisville board.

I live deeper in SEC country than you do and have for the last 30+ years.... so just one more example of talking out your anterior about something you know nothing about. As much as I don’t like the Dukies, Tarheels, Vols etc., their issues pale in comparison to you all-and the whole country knows it
 
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That’s the part that you just don’t (won’t) get. There no other evidence besides “home town pull” and if there were - you’d dismiss it with the same sort of delusion that you have all others.

That’s it all - right there.

Sorry.
I love that the your only argument you have to suggest he’s leaving is that he’s from Louisville. There’s absolutely zero logic behind leaving Purdue for your dumpster fire except “he’s football royalty down here”, “he still owns a house down here”, and “his dad and brothers played here”. Good luck with that. We all know he might leave. But we all agree it’s looking less and and less likely. I love your confidence though. And yet if it was such a done deal, why hasn’t it leaked? There’s literally not a single report anywhere suggesting it. In fact it’s just the opposite.
 
Again, read my post slowly and carefully. I never said he knew about their handling of the budget...just that UofL is arrogant and believes themselves to be better than anyone simply because it is UofL.
This should get you started although I'm not sure you got this advanced in your studies at UofL:
My apologies - I thought you were trying to say something meaningful with your post - rather than simply another one saying “UofL is bad”. I should have known better.

Happy thanksgiving.
 
I live deeper in SEC country than you do and have for the last 30+ years.... so just one more example of talking out your anterior about something you know nothing about. As much as I don’t like the Dukies, Tarheels, Vols etc., their issues pale in comparison to you all-and the whole country knows it
The fact that 2 of the 3 teams you’ve listed are in the ACC - demonstrates that you didn’t grasp my post and, obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. UT pales in comparison to the historically corrupt programs in the SEC - though I doubt you know which ones that I’m referring to.

You have no idea where I live and, it’s funny that you think living farther south (if you do) would automatically convey knowledge is some osmotic type fashion.

By the way - for all of Louisville’s indiscretions, none were remotely as bad as handing out fake degrees like UNC did.
 
Let me try an give you an example of what I mean. A firm has an asset on their books that is valued at $1 million (let's call it a patent.) The patent is declared invalid by a court so the asset is now worthless.

The change in the balance sheet (loss of an asset) has to be charged to the income statement - a decrease to income so the firm might generate a loss for the year even though they might have made $900K in real cash. Note: their money in the bank did not go down. They might have increased cash during the year but show a net loss.

I suspect that the asset (the Health Care Unit) was moved off the books but that did not involve the actual loss of cash. While it looks bad, it is likely not the disaster that the numbers might suggest.

I am not claiming deep knowledge of the UofL finances. I actually know almost nothing about it. But when you see a number like that which was quoted and it mentions the separation of the Health unit something like what I described immediately comes to mind.

I could be wrong but it is likely close to what I described.

I'll defer to your expertise, and thanks for the follow up.

However, they were only $50M better last year, and the article (if I recall correctly) indicated this current fiscal year could be bad, as well. That, to me, is indicative of something more than just a write-off.

Based on a string of events, that UofL "leadership" sure does seem incompetent. Counting on "donors" to bail them out seems pie-in-the-sky, but there are a lot of stupid people out there.

"A fool and his money are soon parted."
 
Your right it’s not even close because it’s overused and ridiculous. Brohm will come and compete in the ACC, sell tickets, and regain donations immediately. Dumpster fire is more akin to Purdue football before and after Brohm.

"...it’s overused and ridiculous...?"

Dude, your basketball program... your football program... your university's financial condition.

What the hell more would you want? It's a frickin' DUMPSTER fire.

You people are in delusional.

I'll say it again... you very well might end up with Brohm. I don't know, I don't control the situation, and I wish him and his family the best. But your program is a DUMPSTER fire.
 
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I love that the your only argument you have to suggest he’s leaving is that he’s from Louisville. There’s absolutely zero logic behind leaving Purdue for your dumpster fire except “he’s football royalty down here”, “he still owns a house down here”, and “his dad and brothers played here”. Good luck with that. We all know he might leave. But we all agree it’s looking less and and less likely. I love your confidence though. And yet if it was such a done deal, why hasn’t it leaked? There’s literally not a single report anywhere suggesting it. In fact it’s just the opposite.
Those aren’t the only rationales for why he’d leave Purdue - you just think that because those are the only ones that you can’t refute.

Question. If those are the only reasons and UofL is the dumpster fire that you claim, why do you “all know he might leave”?
 
I'll defer to your expertise, and thanks for the follow up.

However, they were only $50M better last year, and the article (if I recall correctly) indicated this current fiscal year could be bad, as well. That, to me, is indicative of something more than just a write-off.

Based on a string of events, that UofL "leadership" sure does seem incompetent. Counting on "donors" to bail them out seems pie-in-the-sky, but there are a lot of stupid people out there.

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

You are welcome. Financial Accounting can get tricky and there are nuances.

Having said that I believe that:

1. Brohm will stay at Purdue and not go to Louisville. He was worked hard to get his program really on track and to leave now would deprive him of the benefits of that work.

2. His ceiling in the B1G is higher than at Louisville. Clemson and FSU are the dominant programs in the ACC. Louisville will always struggle to supplant them. I think the two dominant West teams, Iowa and Wisconsin, are on the downslide. He can regularly get the the Champ game and potential FF in FB.

3. Putting aside the likely non-cash loss of the Health care unit, Louisville is still in deep hole because of actual and potential cash losses. The budget is likely to be tight for years. Tiller and Hope were handicapped by budget constraints and he can see how that hurt them. Does he want to suffer that when Purdue is generating lots of cash?

4. There is a loyalty to Louisville, but is it reciprocated? Are they willing to wait out a period of famine or do they turn against the Savior when he doesn't do it fast enough?
 
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Those aren’t the only rationales for why he’d leave Purdue - you just think that because those are the only ones that you can’t refute.

Question. If those are the only reasons and UofL is the dumpster fire that you claim, why do you “all know he might leave”?
Because only he can decide how much his ties to Louisville matter. It may mean more than all of the other logical reasons to stay.
 
Those aren’t the only rationales for why he’d leave Purdue - you just think that because those are the only ones that you can’t refute.

Question. If those are the only reasons and UofL is the dumpster fire that you claim, why do you “all know he might leave”?
You said yourself in this same thread that "hometown pull" is the only rationale. And we agree.
 
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Because only he can decide how much his ties to Louisville matter. It may mean more than all of the other logical reasons to stay.
Lol - that’s exactly what we’ve been saying. So after condescendingly saying that his ties to Louisville are the only argument that we have - you then agree - that is the one point that supersedes all others.

Ok. o_O
 
If the buyouts are paid by donors, like they say will happen. It won't be as bad.
Let’s not forget, this is a State School, not a private school. There are rules that apply here that don’t apply to private schools. They’re also checks and balances that go into play first. In addition just like at Ohio State a Board of Trustees will ultimately decide the whole process/results. UofL Is it basketball school first, the board of trustees will also then take into consideration that academics have not been near the top 100 in the country and those take true number one position. If too much money is committed to football for the for seeable future and basketball commitment is still being determined they will probably have to back off of over committing to one particular person for football.
The board of trustees is going to make the point (because they are impartial and have to take a broad-brush look at things for the betterment of all of the departments at the University being a state school) And they will make a heavy point to the fact that they already fired Jeff Brohm once because the BofT’s Felt that he wasn’t the right person for the job. Between paying Petrino not to coach in buying out Brohm’s contract, If things don’t work out very quickly with a very very fast turnaround and positive cash flow to the football and total athletic department many heads will roll including members of the BofT’s Who probably don’t feel as strongly as their Fanatics and booster’s-Question: well the boosters also guarantee if things don’t work out that they will make the University and athletic department whole?
 
You are welcome. Financial Accounting can get tricky and there are nuances.

Having said that I believe that:

1. Brohm will stay at Purdue and not go to Louisville. He was worked hard to get his program really on track and to leave now would deprive him of the benefits of that work.

2. His ceiling in the B1G is higher than at Louisville. Clemson and FSU are the dominant programs in the ACC. Louisville will always struggle to supplant them. I think the two dominant West teams, Iowa and Wisconsin, are on the downslide. He can regularly get the the Champ game and potential FF in FB.

3. Putting aside the likely non-cash loss of the Health care unit, Louisville is still in deep hole because of actual and potential cash losses. The budget is likely to be tight for years. Tiller and Hope were handicapped by budget constraints and he can see how that hurt them. Does he want to suffer that when Purdue is generating lots of cash?

4. There is a loyalty to Louisville, but is it reciprocated. Are they willing to wait out a period of famine or do they turn against the Savior when he doesn't do it fast enough?

5. What appears to be a strong, positive relationship between the Purdue Admin (Daniels, Bobinski) and Brohm.
 
Lol - that’s exactly what we’ve been saying. So after condescendingly saying that his ties to Louisville are the only argument that we have - you then agree - that is the one point that supersedes all others.

Ok. o_O


uh, no. Absolutely not. Again, you're wishing and hoping.

I've lived it. For years, I had a business situation that stood in the way of going home. It was simply too good. (And, it wasn't a financial decision, either.)
 
I know/have known many people FROM Louisville. Can't really recall any of them having an outlandish desire to return and give up money and opportunity.

Brohm's may be different, time will tell.
 
I know/have known many people FROM Louisville. Can't really recall any of them having an outlandish desire to return and give up money and opportunity.

Brohm's may be different, time will tell.
Yeah I've never understood the argument about Louisville being such a magnet to draw him. It's not like we're talking about Palo Alto, Miami, or etc. Said in my best Allen Iverson voice, "We talkin' 'bout Louisville."
 
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Yeah I've never understood the argument about Louisville being such a magnet to draw him. It's not like we're talking about Palo Alto, Miami, or etc. Said in my best Allen Iverson voice, "We talkin' 'bout Louisville."

C'mon, it's Louisville! They're a sexy commuter college like IUPUI, every alum would love to return. The economic engine of Kentucky! Churchill Downs' surroundings are as scenic as those around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Those views from the interstate my my my!
 
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uh, no. Absolutely not. Again, you're wishing and hoping.

I've lived it. For years, I had a business situation that stood in the way of going home. It was simply too good. (And, it wasn't a financial decision, either.)
You’re comparing your situation to Brohm’s and using it to predict what he’ll do?

Lol - and I’m “wishing and hoping”. :rolleyes:
 
They only “appear” that way because of your predisposition to believe that they are important factors.

Whatever advantages you think Louisville has, Jeff Brohm didn’t seem so hesitant when he left for Florida.

You have the Home factor, but that’s it. Purdue is better financially and in the easier division of the stronger conference. He also has worked on Purdue and about to hit it big in recruiting class. He would have to start all over without getting a result here. Louisville and UL job is always gonna be there. A chance to get a great fruit of your labor of 2 years, not as often.

Yes, Brohm has a house there but so what? If he doesn’t take the job, are they gonna take it away? He has kept it there for years. He might keep it for a few more years.

Home factor is strong and I don’t deny that Brohm may still take the job. But to come to Purdue board and to claim what you have claimed... it’s just condescending.
 
Whatever advantages you think Louisville has, Jeff Brohm didn’t seem so hesitant when he left for Florida.

You have the Home factor, but that’s it. Purdue is better financially and in the easier division of the stronger conference. He also has worked on Purdue and about to hit it big in recruiting class. He would have to start all over without getting a result here. Louisville and UL job is always gonna be there. A chance to get a great fruit of your labor of 2 years, not as often.

Yes, Brohm has a house there but so what? If he doesn’t take the job, are they gonna take it away? He has kept it there for years. He might keep it for a few more years.

Home factor is strong and I don’t deny that Brohm may still take the job. But to come to Purdue board and to claim what you have claimed... it’s just condescending.


Home run post.
 
You’re comparing your situation to Brohm’s and using it to predict what he’ll do?

Lol - and I’m “wishing and hoping”. :rolleyes:

You dipstick.

I've said all along, I don't know what he's going to do.

All along, you've said he was gone.

Louisville doesn't have the greatest academic reputation, and you're not helping.
 
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