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Smith projected as a 2nd rounder in draft

You definitely don't leave early and toss several million for a second round draft pick.

If he makes a final four or higher run then he has a chance at a higher draft selection.

Obviously he should declare and get the feedback though.
Most times another year of play in CBB hurts your draft stock, as play can only hurt not help.
 
Most times another year of play in CBB hurts your draft stock, as play can only hurt not help.
Pre-NIL I would agree with you but I don't think that is the case anymore and it sure seems like more the norm (players returning/going to another school) than the other way around.

I'd be curious to see the real numbers on it though.
 
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NIL has changed everything. JT Toppin just decided to come back to college versus entering the draft. Said to have a $4 million NIL deal on the table. He is also predicted as a 2nd round pick. If you don't have a 1st round guarantee, go back to school and take advantage of NIL.

On a side note, i have seen some rumors and I understand the thought of Braden possibly testing the NIL waters, but there is one thing that is not discussed. What about the connection to the University. For discussions sake, lets say that Braden goes elsewhere following the NIL. Say a school is willing to pay him $2 million more. Great! But, what about the long term value. If Braden stays at Purdue, he will go down as one of the all-time college greats. He will be a Purdue legend! He will have a golden ticket anything Purdue and I'm sure the financial benefits would greatly outweigh the 1 year NIL bump.

Just my 2 cents!

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NIL has changed everything. JT Toppin just decided to come back to college versus entering the draft. Said to have a $4 million NIL deal on the table. He is also predicted as a 2nd round pick. If you don't have a 1st round guarantee, go back to school and take advantage of NIL.

On a side note, i have seen some rumors and I understand the thought of Braden possibly testing the NIL waters, but there is one thing that is not discussed. What about the connection to the University. For discussions sake, lets say that Braden goes elsewhere following the NIL. Say a school is willing to pay him $2 million more. Great! But, what about the long term value. If Braden stays at Purdue, he will go down as one of the all-time college greats. He will be a Purdue legend! He will have a golden ticket anything Purdue and I'm sure the financial benefits would greatly outweigh the 1 year NIL bump.

Just my 2 cents!

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It's gone beyond that. None of these guys will ever want for a job/career/paycheck after graduation/they leave school. That was part and parcel before NIL, now it's been amped up to steroidal portions.
 
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Braden would make around $2-$2.5 million going in the second round. Surely we can pay him that or better

What I worry about is he likes to prove himself and doubters wrong. He may take a swing at it hoping he can get to the second contract which could lead to a nice pension.
 
Smith isn't 7' 5" either.
After Edey’s Junior season, the consensus was that he was not a fit for the modern NBA game as a traditional college big. This was despite him being 7’5”. He changed the narrative proving that it is possible to raise your stock by returning to college for your junior year.

It’s true that Smith cannot make himself taller by playing another season, but he can elevate his game and if he exceeds expectations he can improve his standing: probably not as much as Edey, but I don’t think the bottom of the first round is out of the question.
 
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Braden would make around $2-$2.5 million going in the second round. Surely we can pay him that or better

What I worry about is he likes to prove himself and doubters wrong. He may take a swing at it hoping he can get to the second contract which could lead to a nice pension.
Late second round isn't guaranteed contracts so he could also make 0 dollars. That's why 1st round is such a delineation.
 
Most times another year of play in CBB hurts your draft stock, as play can only hurt not help.
That's usually only for the guys projected to go in like the top 15. Even then it doesn't always hurt them to return.
 
Braden would make around $2-$2.5 million going in the second round. Surely we can pay him that or better

What I worry about is he likes to prove himself and doubters wrong. He may take a swing at it hoping he can get to the second contract which could lead to a nice pension.
Just need 3 years of service for minimum pension. 10 years gets ya $215k:

 
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There have been some pretty good 2nd round contracts in recent years, but it is a crap shoot for the most part. Edey got 2nd round mock picks after his junior year, but more likely got valuable feedback on what teams wanted to see from him - that worked out.
 
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You definitely don't leave early and toss several million for a second round draft pick.

If he makes a final four or higher run then he has a chance at a higher draft selection.

Obviously he should declare and get the feedback though.
It depends. A team in the 2nd round could guarantee him a spot and a contract that's better than a late first rounder.
 
Late second round isn't guaranteed contracts so he could also make 0 dollars. That's why 1st round is such a delineation.
Teams can offer guaranteed contracts. TJDs was a multi-year deal with a team option for a 4th year. It was 4yrs/7.6M. Bronny James signed a contract for 4yrs/7.9M. Chris Livingston who was taken right after TJD, signed a 4yr/7.6M contract. Soo it's about 2M per year. Obviously he could push for more depending on his workouts and how much a team likes him.
 
I mean we all know why he got drafted. By that 7.6-8M like area seems to be what Smith would probably get. He could probably push to 8.5-9M over 4 though. Tyler Kolek was the #34 pick and signed a 4yr/9M deal.
Yeah, I can't help but think any money he got came off Daddy's haul ("Sign Bronny to X$ and I'll only ask for X$")
 
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Teams can offer guaranteed contracts. TJDs was a multi-year deal with a team option for a 4th year. It was 4yrs/7.6M. Bronny James signed a contract for 4yrs/7.9M. Chris Livingston who was taken right after TJD, signed a 4yr/7.6M contract. Soo it's about 2M per year. Obviously he could push for more depending on his workouts and how much a team likes him.
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After Edey’s Junior season, multiple the consensus was that he was not a fit for the modern NBA game as a traditional college big. This was despite him being 7’5”. He changed the narrative proving that it is possible to raise your stock by returning to college for your junior year.

It’s true that Smith cannot make himself taller by playing another season, but he can elevate his game and if he exceeds expectations he can improve his standing: probably not as much as Edey, but I don’t think the bottom of the first round is out of the question.
In the same way, everyone saw Braden struggle against long athletic guys. Too many wide, looping passes to get around long arms. And leaving his feet to get maximum distance away from defenders to get the pass off. (no)
IF he can figure out how to handle that better (don't ask me!) then he can improve his chances hugely. Don't know if he can overcome his physical limits (6' guy dunking with ease limits....lol. ) but if it can be done I think he'll do it.
15 assists against Houston says give the kid a chance.
I expect progression will occur.
 
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If I'm an NBA GM, no way do I use a draft pick on Braden. I love him in Old Gold and Black, but I would not take a chance on him in the NBA. I don't think his 3-point shot is consistent enough, I don't think his mid-range game would translate, he doesn't have "blow by" quickness" to get to the rim, and, even if he did get to the rim, I don't think he could finish against the elite rim protectors in the NBA. Braden is a great college player, and Purdue is lucky to have him...but, I ain't buying any stock in his NBA future. Now, I hope he goes out prove me completely wrong.
 
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If I'm an NBA GM, no way do I use a draft pick on Braden. I love him in Old Gold and Black, but I would not take a chance on him in the NBA. I don't think his 3-point shot is consistent enough, I don't think his mid-range game would translate, he doesn't have "blow by" quickness" to get to the rim, and, even if he did get to the rim, I don't think he could finish against the elite rim protectors in the NBA. Braden is a great college player, and Purdue is lucky to have him...but, I ain't buying any stock in his NBA future. Now, I hope he goes out prove me completely wrong.
You don’t think a guy who shoots just about 40% from 3 in his career is consistent enough? Or his midrange isn’t good? Did you watch him this year? What about a kid who was in the 98th percentile shooting out of the pick and roll with an NBA player as the screener when Braden was a sophomore?

I’ll give you the blow by speed…although he did it to bigger guys this year. But if he can improve that, a team or a few will def take a chance on him.
 
If I'm an NBA GM, no way do I use a draft pick on Braden. I love him in Old Gold and Black, but I would not take a chance on him in the NBA. I don't think his 3-point shot is consistent enough, I don't think his mid-range game would translate, he doesn't have "blow by" quickness" to get to the rim, and, even if he did get to the rim, I don't think he could finish against the elite rim protectors in the NBA. Braden is a great college player, and Purdue is lucky to have him...but, I ain't buying any stock in his NBA future. Now, I hope he goes out prove me completely wrong.
Agree with a lot of what you said especially about finishing at the rim. That's definitely a concern. I think he gets drafted next year assuming he improves from this year. He's going to have too good of a resume for someone not to take him.
 
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If I'm an NBA GM, no way do I use a draft pick on Braden. I love him in Old Gold and Black, but I would not take a chance on him in the NBA. I don't think his 3-point shot is consistent enough, I don't think his mid-range game would translate, he doesn't have "blow by" quickness" to get to the rim, and, even if he did get to the rim, I don't think he could finish against the elite rim protectors in the NBA. Braden is a great college player, and Purdue is lucky to have him...but, I ain't buying any stock in his NBA future. Now, I hope he goes out prove me completely wrong.
Sounds like the things that were said before his coming to Purdue and all he did with that doubt was turn himself into a 1st team All American and a guy that might go down as the leading assist guy in NCAA history.

Keep doubting. It fuels him.
 
If I'm an NBA GM, no way do I use a draft pick on Braden. I love him in Old Gold and Black, but I would not take a chance on him in the NBA. I don't think his 3-point shot is consistent enough, I don't think his mid-range game would translate, he doesn't have "blow by" quickness" to get to the rim, and, even if he did get to the rim, I don't think he could finish against the elite rim protectors in the NBA. Braden is a great college player, and Purdue is lucky to have him...but, I ain't buying any stock in his NBA future. Now, I hope he goes out prove me completely wrong.
I think no team is giving him a first round pick but I don't think that equates to him not having an NBA future. TJ McConnell exists.
 
If I'm an NBA GM, no way do I use a draft pick on Braden. I love him in Old Gold and Black, but I would not take a chance on him in the NBA. I don't think his 3-point shot is consistent enough, I don't think his mid-range game would translate, he doesn't have "blow by" quickness" to get to the rim, and, even if he did get to the rim, I don't think he could finish against the elite rim protectors in the NBA. Braden is a great college player, and Purdue is lucky to have him...but, I ain't buying any stock in his NBA future. Now, I hope he goes out prove me completely wrong.
See TJ McConnel. In todays NBA the rim protector might be out at the 3 line guarding your center there. I'm always surprised at how many shots TJ gets in the paint and how many of them end up uncontested.
 
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If I'm an NBA GM, no way do I use a draft pick on Braden. I love him in Old Gold and Black, but I would not take a chance on him in the NBA. I don't think his 3-point shot is consistent enough, I don't think his mid-range game would translate, he doesn't have "blow by" quickness" to get to the rim, and, even if he did get to the rim, I don't think he could finish against the elite rim protectors in the NBA. Braden is a great college player, and Purdue is lucky to have him...but, I ain't buying any stock in his NBA future. Now, I hope he goes out prove me completely wrong.
If I am a team like Boston or Denver, I am drafting him. Especially Boston. He'd be wide open a lot.
 
Sure size does. If I'm a GM/NBA and have a 7-footer or a 5'11" guard with the same level of play I'm taking the big guy.
that was not the issue. The question was does coming back and playing better another season up your draft chances. How does that get to comparing drafting a 5'11" guy vs 7'er?
 
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